Why do professional subwoofers always use paper cones while home audio subs usually use other materials?

I think it has to do with excursion and aesthetics. Home subwoofers typically have smaller woofers and in smaller enclosures but still need to get the SPL people want. That means high excursion drivers with lots of power which requires more robust material. The other thing is probably marketing. Cool carbon fiber etc looking materials sell better than paper and look better in a living room.

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SuspiciousFishI think it has to do with excursion and aesthetics. Home subwoofers typically have smaller woofers and in smaller enclosures but still need to get the SPL people want. That means high excursion drivers with lots of power which requires more robust material. The other thing is probably marketing. Cool carbon fiber etc looking materials sell better than paper and look better in a living room.

Yeah that makes sense.

DolanReloadedYeah that makes sense.

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MiIfHunterUr ugly

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I just got this sub a couple months ago

Its a sunfire xteq 8 and is 1800 watts and usually costs 1500$ but for some reason this vendor called safe&sound is selling them for 600$.

im almost thinking about getting another one and seeing if it shatters the windows in my house. Its got an 8 inch driver on one side and a weighted passive radiator on the other side which resonates at some insanely low freq like 22hz
its so much more cozy of a concept to have a tiny little box with huge driver excursion than a 15 inch sub in a huge box that only has like a 1/2” excursion.

inb4 “muh sound gualidy”

DolanReloadedI just got this sub a couple months ago

Its a sunfire xteq 8 and is 1800 watts and usually costs 1500$ but for some reason this vendor called safe&sound is selling them for 600$.

im almost thinking about getting another one and seeing if it shatters the windows in my house. Its got an 8 inch driver on one side and a weighted passive radiator on the other side which resonates at some insanely low freq like 22hz
its so much more cozy of a concept to have a tiny little box with huge driver excursion than a 15 inch sub in a huge box that only has like a 1/2” excursion.

inb4 “muh sound gualidy”

Nice. I'm on the market for a new sound system for my car and want to wire up some manly speakers to my TV sometime soon.

Idk what it's called, but my boss has some speakers at our shop that he says originally cost over 7k for the set. He found them is the basement of his house under some tarps when he moved in, and the previous owner had no idea that they were even there.

Bended_ToenailNice. I'm on the market for a new sound system for my car and want to wire up some manly speakers to my TV sometime soon.

Idk what it's called, but my boss has some speakers at our shop that he says originally cost over 7k for the set. He found them is the basement of his house under some tarps when he moved in, and the previous owner had no idea that they were even there.

I had a 1000w Pioneer mono amp with 10” single sub in my car in HS. Thing was awesome. My dad was a sound engineer way back, helped me completely wire the car from the HU, no harness (they didn’t make one for my car). Anyways idk where I was going with this

**This post was edited on Dec 18th 2020 at 9:03:45pm

Charlie_KellyI had a 1000w Pioneer mono amp with 10” single sub in my car in HS. Thing was awesome. My dad was a sound engineer way back, helped me completely wire the car from the HU, no harness (they didn’t make one for my car). Anyways idk where I was going with this

**This post was edited on Dec 18th 2020 at 9:03:45pm

Thats cool man. I had 2 15s and a 12 stacked in the back of my suburban in hs. For some reason car stereo/subwoofers are alot of fun when ur in hs.



i dont know why but im more stoked on home audio now. Maybe because the speakers and subs are something you can hold and cuddle with. I dont know why but i get like fixated on certain objects to the point its like euphoric to think about them and how they are made and what materials they are made of. . For a while i was obsessed with my new skis bases, for a while it was the cooling system on my nintendo switch, for a while it was my electric skateboard, also my jbl charge 3, and now its my jbl partybox 100 and my subwoofer.

i think bc methadone killed my sex drive my brain is now confused and wants to have sex with objects.

i guess thats kind of funny but we are all gonna die so who cares how crazy we are along the way haha

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Awww u trying to make a friend? I’m not making no fucking truce with u dumbfuck. Don’t u ever try to kiss my ass again

DolanReloadedThats cool man. I had 2 15s and a 12 stacked in the back of my suburban in hs. For some reason car stereo/subwoofers are alot of fun when ur in hs.



i dont know why but im more stoked on home audio now. Maybe because the speakers and subs are something you can hold and cuddle with. I dont know why but i get like fixated on certain objects to the point its like euphoric to think about them and how they are made and what materials they are made of. . For a while i was obsessed with my new skis bases, for a while it was the cooling system on my nintendo switch, for a while it was my electric skateboard, also my jbl charge 3, and now its my jbl partybox 100 and my subwoofer.

i think bc methadone killed my sex drive my brain is now confused and wants to have sex with objects.

i guess thats kind of funny but we are all gonna die so who cares how crazy we are along the way haha

**This post was edited on Dec 18th 2020 at 10:34:27pm

MiIfHunterAwww u trying to make a friend? I’m not making no fucking truce with u dumbfuck. Don’t u ever try to kiss my ass again

Jesus christ milfy

your parents should be smacked for not aborting you

I WAS RAISED BY WOLVES

DolanReloadedJesus christ milfy

your parents should be smacked for not aborting you

DolanReloadedThats cool man. I had 2 15s and a 12 stacked in the back of my suburban in hs. For some reason car stereo/subwoofers are alot of fun when ur in hs.



i dont know why but im more stoked on home audio now. Maybe because the speakers and subs are something you can hold and cuddle with. I dont know why but i get like fixated on certain objects to the point its like euphoric to think about them and how they are made and what materials they are made of. . For a while i was obsessed with my new skis bases, for a while it was the cooling system on my nintendo switch, for a while it was my electric skateboard, also my jbl charge 3, and now its my jbl partybox 100 and my subwoofer.

i think bc methadone killed my sex drive my brain is now confused and wants to have sex with objects.

i guess thats kind of funny but we are all gonna die so who cares how crazy we are along the way haha

**This post was edited on Dec 18th 2020 at 10:34:27pm

Dad built a 12 speaker surround sound system with Polk audio speakers. Thing was awesome, would shake our house.

MiIfHunterI WAS RAISED BY WOLVES

*crack whores in the trap house

Oh man, I want these so bad for my basement stereo. 18'' Main Driver, 15'' Passive and 103 db/Watt. I could run them both in parrallel with a 500W plate amp. Thats 36'' of subwoofer for about $650:

https://denver.craigslist.org/msg/d/littleton-price-reduced-on-monster/7228681589.html

Charlie_KellyDad built a 12 speaker surround sound system with Polk audio speakers. Thing was awesome, would shake our house.

Nice. Did he have a subwoofer?

SuspiciousFishOh man, I want these so bad for my basement stereo. 18'' Main Driver, 15'' Passive and 103 db/Watt. I could run them both in parrallel with a 500W plate amp. Thats 36'' of subwoofer for about $650:

https://denver.craigslist.org/msg/d/littleton-price-reduced-on-monster/7228681589.html

honestly i think you coupd do better by getting a single professional subwoofer thats either 15 or 18 inches from jbl or another good brand.
Klipsch makes decent home subs now but i dont know how good their old shit is and the klipsch subs you linked look like 30 yr old pieces of shit. I wouldnt buy that shit for more than 100$ and the surround is probably full of holes and shit. Like yeah certain speakers will last a very long time if they are well built and taken care of, but these old klipsch’s you linked dont look well made and dont look like they were taken care of.

SuspiciousFishOh man, I want these so bad for my basement stereo. 18'' Main Driver, 15'' Passive and 103 db/Watt. I could run them both in parrallel with a 500W plate amp. Thats 36'' of subwoofer for about $650:

https://denver.craigslist.org/msg/d/littleton-price-reduced-on-monster/7228681589.html

Heres a couple pro subs i would look at which are around the same price as the 2 old klipsch subs u were psyched about.

DolanReloadedNice. Did he have a subwoofer?

honestly i think you coupd do better by getting a single professional subwoofer thats either 15 or 18 inches from jbl or another good brand.
Klipsch makes decent home subs now but i dont know how good their old shit is and the klipsch subs you linked look like 30 yr old pieces of shit. I wouldnt buy that shit for more than 100$ and the surround is probably full of holes and shit. Like yeah certain speakers will last a very long time if they are well built and taken care of, but these old klipsch’s you linked dont look well made and dont look like they were taken care of.

Eh, Im a Klipsch guy so I am biased. These were build from 2000 to 2004 so they are not that old. Klipsch is known for making woofers that last forever unlike other brands that used foam surrounds. For instance, I have 1984 LaScalas in my basement system that sound like they are brand new. Granted they have new crossovers but that was a mod from when I bought them. Klipsch Home subs were garbage until the Reference Line came out but the Pro Stuff has always been quality.


Behringer makes decent stuff but half the fun for me is taking bonkers stuff and getting it put together. One of the reasons I am interested is these are high efficiency and running two parallel means the woofers will barely have to move to get bass response which means fast accurate sound and low distortion. Im not concerned about the cabinets as I can throw some fresh paint on as long as the internals are good. Probably not actually going to get them as I already have a 15'' Dayton Audio sub but im always scoping out interesting projects etc.

SuspiciousFishEh, Im a Klipsch guy so I am biased. These were build from 2000 to 2004 so they are not that old. Klipsch is known for making woofers that last forever unlike other brands that used foam surrounds. For instance, I have 1984 LaScalas in my basement system that sound like they are brand new. Granted they have new crossovers but that was a mod from when I bought them. Klipsch Home subs were garbage until the Reference Line came out but the Pro Stuff has always been quality.


Behringer makes decent stuff but half the fun for me is taking bonkers stuff and getting it put together. One of the reasons I am interested is these are high efficiency and running two parallel means the woofers will barely have to move to get bass response which means fast accurate sound and low distortion. Im not concerned about the cabinets as I can throw some fresh paint on as long as the internals are good. Probably not actually going to get them as I already have a 15'' Dayton Audio sub but im always scoping out interesting projects etc.

Cool. How do you like your dayton audio sub? Is that the brand sold by parts express or am i thinking of another brand?

i just think you would get more deep bass if you went for a more robust modern high excursion pro sub driver. I dont really care for mid bass from 60hz up. I mainly love the pounding, nose tingling sensation you get from a sub thats very loud from 40hz down.
if the klipshes have a good freq response that gets down under 40hz without major rolloff, then i would say go for it.

I bet "Hitler's Greatest Speeches" sounds awesome from those speakers, proud boy.

Why do you guys spend money to put bigger subs and subjectively better audio systems in your car? Curious what the point is. Is this like a ghetto big dick thing analogous to big trucks in the country?

I had a buddy who used to compete but other than that I don't see the point.

skiermanI bet "Hitler's Greatest Speeches" sounds awesome from those speakers, proud boy.

Maybe. Whatever loudspeakers they did use for hitlers speeches are probably part of some german kids stereo system today, handed down to him from his grandpa, still working great bcuz german engineered ;)

Rotten_TrumpkinsWhy do you guys spend money to put bigger subs and subjectively better audio systems in your car? Curious what the point is. Is this like a ghetto big dick thing analogous to big trucks in the country?

I had a buddy who used to compete but other than that I don't see the point.

I kind of agree that the whole thing of sacrificing the entire back seat of your car so you can fill it with 50 thousand $$ of audio to see how many spl you can squeeze out is stupid. But to have really loud bass doesnt require you to sacrifice much more than a cube the size of a microwave. Getting a very powerful driver that can deal with a small box will be more expensive than just chucking a cheap 2x12 or 4x12 box with cheap drivers into the back of your car. If you drive a big suv you can put alot more in the back but even if you just have a trunk you can still get insane base from a small box if you have enough money for it.

Listening to huge bass can be really fun tho; like when its so loud you cant hear your voice or anything and you feel the soundwaves pulsing though your body the same way the shockwave of a bomb would.

its kind of like a sense of power that you can turn peoples heads when you drive by so everybody is like “holy shit is that thunder?”. Low frequencies naturally carry farther than high frequencies too, so bass can annoy people from very far away, without necessarily letting ppl know it is your car making the sound, bc low frequencies are harder to localize than high frequencies.

And obviously subs are more fun than high freq speakers because very loud high frequencies are painful to listen to and can cause serious hearing damage.

Bass tho, you can listen to really loud without it hurting your ears or causing damage. Like weed. It takes alot more of it to kill you than you think it does.

Very high volume bass (like ridiculous SPL) apparently can give you heart arrhythmias tho which can kill you.

**This post was edited on Dec 21st 2020 at 10:39:47pm