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elm.
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Has anyone mounted CAST with binding freedom? What length screw did you end up using?
Dec 8 2020 10:10AM
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elm.
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Bump
Dec 24 2020 11:00AM
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jca
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TGR has your answer for sure.
Dec 24 2020 11:33AM
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anders_a
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the info on binding freedoms site should be correct

I wont get my cast setup to test until jan something
Dec 24 2020 4:33PM
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aanev
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The heel needs 2x18mm flat-heads, but BF sells only 16 and 20mm. 20mm can easily be shortened a bit.



Additionally, I would recommend using the metal (and not the plastic) Pivot Jig and taking extra care when drilling the holes for the toes

**This post was edited on Dec 25th 2020 at 2:24:32am
Dec 25 2020 2:22AM
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anders_a
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aanevThe heel needs 2x18mm flat-heads, but BF sells only 16 and 20mm. 20mm can easily be shortened a bit.



Additionally, I would recommend using the metal (and not the plastic) Pivot Jig and taking extra care when drilling the holes for the toes

**This post was edited on Dec 25th 2020 at 2:24:32am


I just got my 20mm after buying 16mm previously which of course was way short and you are correct

just grabbed caliper, inserts and a heel piece to try I measured bolt head with insert on bottom, bolt head will move up and down 0,53mm of course with flat plate + insert often not 0,0 vs topsheet its going to be marginal, but not ideal so you should take some material off, 1mm should be more than enough though.

When grinding/cutting bolt down, please put a nut on the bolt before doing so so threads "fix" themself when removing it.

**This post was edited on Dec 25th 2020 at 2:50:19am
Dec 25 2020 2:46AM
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N41v131355
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Be extremely accurate with insert job. I thought my average work would be OK, but it actually ruined whole experience with CAST. Toe piece was constantly getting stuck as I "drowned" couple of inserts too far into the ski, so the screws were either too loose that they basically wobbled or were too tight, so toe piece failed to engage/disengage.
Dec 25 2020 9:08AM
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anders_a
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Did you use a jig? how much beneath topsheet was inserts?
Dec 25 2020 9:37AM
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elm.
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aanevThe heel needs 2x18mm flat-heads, but BF sells only 16 and 20mm. 20mm can easily be shortened a bit.



Additionally, I would recommend using the metal (and not the plastic) Pivot Jig and taking extra care when drilling the holes for the toes

**This post was edited on Dec 25th 2020 at 2:24:32am


Do you know the rest of the screw lengths? I already drilled the skis and have the inserts in with a pair of pivots. I admit my drilling wasn't the best for one of the toes.
Dec 25 2020 10:54AM
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aanev
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elm.Do you know the rest of the screw lengths? I already drilled the skis and have the inserts in with a pair of pivots. I admit my drilling wasn't the best for one of the toes.


As far as I remember the others were correct:

https://www.bindingfreedom.com/cast-touring-system/


You should probably tighten the screws with the Pivot toe in to set everything properly. It has tighter tolerances than the touring one.
Dec 25 2020 11:08AM
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elm.
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aanevAs far as I remember the others were correct:

https://www.bindingfreedom.com/cast-touring-system/


You should probably tighten the screws with the Pivot toe in to set everything properly. It has tighter tolerances than the touring one.

That's a relief to hear. Been skiing with the pivots last couple days. It was pretty difficult getting one of the toes on, but I think it's settled in now.

Thanks for all the info!
Dec 25 2020 11:24AM
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N41v131355
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anders_aDid you use a jig? how much beneath topsheet was inserts?


Nope, I don't have a jig at home. Was using paper template as usual.
Dec 28 2020 5:01AM
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elm.
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N41v131355Nope, I don't have a jig at home. Was using paper template as usual.

Same. My inserts were mostly flush
Dec 28 2020 12:52PM
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