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iFlipThey are not.
BiffbarfAnd you're ok with being objectively wrong?
N1cot12Oooh we have some NS beef here now
mat_espoI like to climb on the rocks in the summer
Went to the bugaboos for the first time this summer. That's me leading the last pitch of a route called 'sunshine crack' on snowpatch spire
BiffbarfNah, no beef. But I almost guarantee he'll say something like 'wingsuiting is EXTREME' like hurtling yourself down a mountain on 2 skinny pieces of rubber or plastic isn't. The logic just doesn't hold.
iFlipI respect your opinion, and a man certainly has a right to his opinions. However, no man has a right to be wrong in his facts. And the facts are that freeskiing and mtb are generally done in extremely controlled environments which are manufactured in such a way as to be safety-conscious. The risks are largely mitigated (groomed landings, clear markings, ski patrol nearby at all times).
An extreme sport needs to be a fringe activity that has a significant level of danger and be inaccessible to your average person. Any kid with a pair of skis can enter a terrain park and "catch air" or roll a feature. Any suburban cubicle worker can rent a mountain bike at the local mtb hill and ride some trails. Yes, wingsuit BASE is extreme. So are other fringe sports with high danger quotients such as freesolo climbing, cave diving, rally car racing, and bull riding.
Now, to be fair (to be fair, to be fair), some sports can be done in extreme ways that push them into the "extreme sports" category. Skiing is one example. Some of the big-mountain heli-skiing lines fall into this category. Freediving beyond, say, 40 meters is another good example.
shinbangclanjust out of curiosity does anyone know the requisites to be able to go base jumping? Always wanted to try it but I'm pretty sure it's like tens of thousands of dollars over several years of getting certified.
iFlipI respect your opinion, and a man certainly has a right to his opinions. However, no man has a right to be wrong in his facts. And the facts are that freeskiing and mtb are generally done in extremely controlled environments which are manufactured in such a way as to be safety-conscious. The risks are largely mitigated (groomed landings, clear markings, ski patrol nearby at all times).
An extreme sport needs to be a fringe activity that has a significant level of danger and be inaccessible to your average person. Any kid with a pair of skis can enter a terrain park and "catch air" or roll a feature. Any suburban cubicle worker can rent a mountain bike at the local mtb hill and ride some trails. Yes, wingsuit BASE is extreme. So are other fringe sports with high danger quotients such as freesolo climbing, cave diving, rally car racing, and bull riding.
Now, to be fair (to be fair, to be fair), some sports can be done in extreme ways that push them into the "extreme sports" category. Skiing is one example. Some of the big-mountain heli-skiing lines fall into this category. Freediving beyond, say, 40 meters is another good example.
ClaytoncI don't really understand how you can say free skiing isn't extreme because a child can enter a park and hit the sides of the smallest features. That would be like saying BASE jumping isn't extreme because anybody with a few hundred dollars can get strapped to a professional and go skydiving. Just because something is objectively an "extreme sport" doesn't mean every single person who does it is at constant risk of death when they are doing it.
iFlipBASE and skydiving are entirely different sports. Your argument rests on no facts.
iFlipBASE and skydiving are entirely different sports. Your argument rests on no facts.
ClaytoncBoth involve jumping from a high point and releasing a parachute. I'm just saying you can't dismiss the entire sport as "not extreme" just because it isn't too difficult for beginners to get into. There are still substantial risks with MTB and Skiing even if the risk of death isn't a constant factor (though people die doing both of those sports a lot more than people die parachuting).
iFlipA lot more people die driving to work than die skydiving. Look at ratios, not overall numbers. Saying that skydiving and BASE are the same thing just because they both involve parachutes and jumping is like saying that all bike sports are the same since they all use two wheels and pedaling. A BASE chute and a skydiving chute are very different.
My barrier to entry to be considered an extreme sport is the ability for “just anyone” to engage in the sport. “Just anyone” can ski park, at least a little. Not “just anyone” can BASE jump, not even a little.
ClaytoncYou're definition is wrong
iFlipThey are not.
Hellblazer_23I do track and cross county in school and out of school BMX.
N1cot12What’s ur mile
Hellblazer_23I am not very fast so like 6ish min. My best 5k is 20:43
N1cot12That’s not bad....
I ran a 531 a couple weeks ago... finally feeling healthy again might be able to go faster
Hellblazer_23Niceee, yeah xc just ended for me but winter track isn't starting until February
N1cot12sweet, Im not running XC or track or anything, but might consider it
Hellblazer_23Niceee, yeah xc just ended for me but winter track isn't starting until February
CeleryIndoor track started for me on Monday. It's pretty weird and we mostly practice outside. It kinda blows since it's been like 20 degrees for the last few days
Hellblazer_23I've done indoor track since freshman year. Its basically normal track except you run in everything and anything. I've run in snow, rain, wind, and all the way down to like 28 degrees
Hellblazer_23You would definitely like track. The structure of it hold you accountable and actually makes you work and faster
SegsxiDrink, smoke weed, and all types of ill shit