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sullivano*b
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this past saturday at killington i finally hit some actual rails (other than the wooden seven foot long one in my yard) and i’m wondering what i should try learning next
Nov 29 2020 8:27AM
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iRide1080s
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Learning to ride rails unnatural foot forward would be a huge help down the road.
I would also work on front 2 and back 2 off. The mechanics of gripping the rail with your lead foot will help you gain more control and will also help with larger spins off and switch ups.
Nov 29 2020 8:38AM
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sullivano*b
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iRide1080sLearning to ride rails unnatural foot forward would be a huge help down the road.
I would also work on front 2 and back 2 off. The mechanics of gripping the rail with your lead foot will help you gain more control and will also help with larger spins off and switch ups.


should i definitely make sure i can 3 first? bc i can’t
Nov 29 2020 8:39AM
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GeorgeMadison
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VermontDogFartshould i definitely make sure i can 3 first? bc i can’t


yes
Nov 29 2020 9:04AM
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sullivano*b
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GeorgeMadisonyes


i tried a couple times but it always ends up being a 180, any tips?
Nov 29 2020 9:09AM
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GeorgeMadison
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VermontDogFarti tried a couple times but it always ends up being a 180, any tips?

I would practice them on the ground without skis and make sure you are perfectly balanced. Then just try on a small jump with a flat landing in some soft snow rather than a park jump to start. This will let you land at 270 and not die. Just bring your outside arm out and tuck your arms and once you are most of the way around spot your landing. It will just take a little practice.
Nov 29 2020 9:14AM
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Anti-Hero
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Try to do some nose and tail presses
Nov 29 2020 9:52AM
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rubberpantaloons
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Front 2 is probably the easiest trick to do after learning rail slides
Nov 29 2020 11:40AM
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sullivano*b
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rubberpantaloonsFront 2 is probably the easiest trick to do after learning rail slides


front, back, blind, pretz, and continuing confuses me i’ve heard them all and i only know like half of them in certain situations
Nov 29 2020 11:42AM
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GeorgeMadison
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VermontDogFartfront, back, blind, pretz, and continuing confuses me i’ve heard them all and i only know like half of them in certain situations


front: spinning forward off of the rail (i.e. left foot forward, spin left. right foot forward, spin right)
back/blind (same thing): spinning backward off the rail (i.e. left foot forward spin right, right foot, spin left)
pretz/pretzel: spinning the opposite way off the rail is you spun on it or in a swap (i.e. a front swap then spinning forward off the rail because your momentum is going the opp direction) harder because it requires you to grip the rail
continuing: opposite of pretz
Nov 29 2020 12:00PM
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The.Fish
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VermontDogFartshould i definitely make sure i can 3 first? bc i can’t


If it means anything, I learned how to do front 2, blind 2, and front 4 before doing a 360 for the first time. I still rather do a kfed (front swap blind 2) then try to huck a 3 on a jump. That shit is scary to me for some reason.

**This post was edited on Nov 29th 2020 at 12:12:08pm
Nov 29 2020 12:11PM
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iced
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VermontDogFartshould i definitely make sure i can 3 first? bc I can’t


don't need 3s to front 2
Nov 29 2020 6:04PM
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Schoess
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Slide as many rails as you can all day, everyday. Start with learning a front swap or a front 2 or a blind 2 or a blind swap. Once you get it, do 1,000 of them. Skiing is all about repetition. It's not so important WHAT you do next, but more how many times you do it and how you expand it into more and more tricks.
Nov 29 2020 6:11PM
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sqeellicbic
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iRide1080sLearning to ride rails unnatural foot forward would be a huge help down the road.
I would also work on front 2 and back 2 off. The mechanics of gripping the rail with your lead foot will help you gain more control and will also help with larger spins off and switch ups.


This. Especially learn unnatural rail slides as soon as you can do it natural. It's kind of like learning a language as a kid vs as an adult. Just like it's easier to learn a language when you're a kid, it'll be easier to learn unnatural right away as opposed to hitting rails natural all season and then trying to learn unnatural later on because you'll be so used to it.
Nov 29 2020 6:21PM
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sullivano*b
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sqeellicbicThis. Especially learn unnatural rail slides as soon as you can do it natural. It's kind of like learning a language as a kid vs as an adult. Just like it's easier to learn a language when you're a kid, it'll be easier to learn unnatural right away as opposed to hitting rails natural all season and then trying to learn unnatural later on because you'll be so used to it.


i thought about trying it but i never did, i’m not gonna be back skiing with a rail until i get snow at my house or my resort opens and the trail that has a 20 ft log that me and my friends de barked opens
Nov 29 2020 6:51PM
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johnoble
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not going to help you much down the road, but i learned lip ons, backslides, and 50:50s before any spins off, if you have a spinning block those can be fun ways to keep progressing
Nov 29 2020 7:24PM
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PeteMahn
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The most important aspect of rail skiing above all is repetition. This is why kids from the east coast and Midwest slay rails. You don't need a giant fancy mountain to get good at rails. Just lap and hike all the time and you will start to get really comfortable the more you do it. Look at kids who hike setups all summer with astro turf and pvc. They progress extremely fast plus get comfortable since hitting sketchy pvc setups is more difficult than sliding rails at a nice park. Like others said above, start hitting boxes/ rails unnatural as well. Then start trying different tricks as you go.
Nov 29 2020 10:28PM
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sullivano*b
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johnoblenot going to help you much down the road, but i learned lip ons, backslides, and 50:50s before any spins off, if you have a spinning block those can be fun ways to keep progressing


how hard are backslides? i thought about trying
Nov 30 2020 7:02AM
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sickjukes87
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The.FishIf it means anything, I learned how to do front 2, blind 2, and front 4 before doing a 360 for the first time. I still rather do a kfed (front swap blind 2) then try to huck a 3 on a jump. That shit is scary to me for some reason.

**This post was edited on Nov 29th 2020 at 12:12:08pm

Yeah I can do front 2 out but a 3 off a jump is a no go
Nov 30 2020 9:42AM
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Knapzach
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Lip blind 2 is the only trick to learn
Nov 30 2020 11:24PM
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little1337
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Front 2 was the first rail trick I learned followed by blind 2 and then front swap/ back swap. Pretty much just hit rails and do one trick until you can do it in your sleep then go on to the next one
Dec 1 2020 12:08AM
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Young_patty
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One thing I wish I did more when I learned to hit rails was to really learn unnatty slides (unnatural foot forward) well before learning other tricks- it’ll help so much with swaps and 270’s on in the long run
Dec 2 2020 1:31PM
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sullivano*b
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Young_pattyOne thing I wish I did more when I learned to hit rails was to really learn unnatty slides (unnatural foot forward) well before learning other tricks- it’ll help so much with swaps and 270’s on in the long run


i’m getting snow this weekend and hopefully my pvc setup will be done so i’ll learn that %100 hopefully
Dec 2 2020 1:55PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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keep just hitting rails until you're comfortable on all of them
Dec 2 2020 2:41PM
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