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ohhbeckerIf you can’t see what’s happening at Mount Snow via Vail, you haven’t been there long enough or haven’t been paying attention. I’ve been riding there for 20 years, I’m fucking old now.
Mount Snow has built its modern reputation on having the best park in the NE starting in 2001 when they hosted the X Games. While they’ve had up and downs they’ve constantly competed for that title, and since Carintha had the whole peak it had been undeniable, the old lodge was also an insane park kids dream. PS4s and Xbox’s with couches in the lodge, a mini ramp on the deck.
first_rodeothe new Carinthia base lodge was the nail in the coffin... vibe immediately changed.
theabortionatorI was sad. Never really wentin there ever but good vibes. Mini ramp on the deck, skate 3, fat burritos
Man i miss my mount snow days.
Really worried about big boulder. Thinking they'll keep a good ish park but its gonna change hard. Rip
katrinaThat mini ramp was so fun. And peace pipe.
b0ssI can confirm vail is building knuckles where the park usualy is. Dont get your hopes up until january.
dant02Darkside snowboards has exactly that. A hike park behind the shop and they host annual rail jams. Would be pretty cool if a ski shop did that though
eheathI'd say that's conservative, the snow alone (snowmaking, water, power, etc) costs 100k, another 150k in labor costs at least, a superpipe is minimum 250k, the xgames pipe costs 2-3 times that (labor not snow, SPT ain't cheap).
MaimHelpAnyone know the deal with big boulder, vail is completely ignoring anything about it
SkiBum.Pretty rough weather isn’t helping. I’d assume Vail wants that place to compete with Cammelback. Parks will get cut back I’d assume to 1-2 trails. Get more family/learning crowd in there. That’s where the money is. Their main park guy left as well
MaimHelpHe was forced to leave, that’s a bummer tho, they were all park trails and won’t be fun to ski without one. Fuck I finally moved to a fun place to ski and they pull this shit
ohhbeckerIf you can’t see what’s happening at Mount Snow via Vail, you haven’t been there long enough or haven’t been paying attention. I’ve been riding there for 20 years, I’m fucking old now.
In past years Mount Snow would open 1 park in Carinthia and not open the summit lift on the main face initially, then they would work on connecting the two. This year they opened the Northface peak and summit lift, the main face trails and summit lift, but no Carinthia. Vail is operating all of these resorts they bought as if they’re out west and they’re not, Vail does not understand the East Coast skier mentality.
It’s absolutely Vail and corporate. They absolutely fired a lot of core employees, and now can’t hire anyone. If you need proof go look at their job listings, every single position is open.
freeskibum82dude.. it's been super warm and with Covid-19 they need to provide top to bottom skiing for everyone not just park rats. do you really want every tom dick and jane skiing down your beloved park? It's the right move THIS YEAR to focus on main mountain first to get people up to the mountain, using those passes (so Epic wont have to refund) and then move into park on carinthia when temps cooperate. They are building Gulch today! Relax.. Yes Vail will change things like inferno going away minus the two showtime booters at the bottom but park kids are not a revenue stream. That lodge at that base of carinthia is the sure sign carinthia will be changing and not all trails will be park but realistically, how many features do you really need to do your 2 on 2 off with afterbang?
.nastyI was bummed to see Freeway go away in Breck since it was so iconic in a sense, but in reality it wasn't the best use of resources especially when dew tour left Breck. Once they got rid of it last season they were able to open much more of the mountain earlier which helps spread people out better.
SkiBum.Pretty rough weather isn’t helping. I’d assume Vail wants that place to compete with Cammelback. Parks will get cut back I’d assume to 1-2 trails. Get more family/learning crowd in there. That’s where the money is. Their main park guy left as well
colorado_frenchyExactly, iconic is the word, Breckenridge and Keystone parks are iconic, I knew about those two resorts (and Aspen) growing up in France just from watching edits, Dew Tour, (and X games).
I understand that the average vail customer cannot ride 90% of the big parks but if you look at it from a marketing perspective, investing in parks attract pro skiers, who are basically influencers in those Instagram times, so you could make the argument that the resorts logo appearing in all of those pro skiers edits and IG stories/clip is "free" advertisement made possible by investing in their parks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ohhbeckerToday I have to take back 99% of my shit talking.
Mount Snow was fantastic. 15 days after opening and we got a real park with probably 10-15 features and two solid jumps. Props to the park crew for crushing it. We’ll see how the rest of the season goes. Rumor is we won’t have a big park and no jumps over 30 feet, so the park crew is apparently planning on building lippy moonbooters to compensate.
sqeellicbicI agree it was great today. Where are you hearing these rumors? I really hope they're not true
sqeellicbicI agree it was great today. Where are you hearing these rumors? I really hope they're not true
freeskibum82dude..That lodge at that base of carinthia is the sure sign carinthia will be changing and not all trails will be park but realistically, how many features do you really need to do your 2 on 2 off with afterbang?
first_rodeoI need 80 rails minimum to avoid Saturday crowds.
CyanicenineIs Transitions park at Canyons dead? Someone said something to that effect on the PC instagram and when I look at the online trail map the park isn't on it anymore, and it was definitely on the map last season.
Yung_Gnarleythis thread is making me feel really lucky to have gotten to lap keystone and breck when they had the XL parks still. Keystone's especially. They had some of the most absurd setups
CT_CREWTrue. Worked park at Key from 2011-2017, some of the funnest years of my life. Will never forget early morning Main ST. jump sessions, and the all day vibe and shred in the ALLEY. Key had so many OG shredders it was bad ass!
SkiBum.Rumor is Big Boulder opening day tomorrow with no park features. First time in like 15 years for that.
edaido they still have the grommit park?
ski_salmon69my local vail mountain in pa opens tomorrow and all they’re opening is the j bar park with a few features. i thought they’d be able to open up the main park with a few features with this weeks storm plus snowmaking temps all week but idk. last year we had a pretty solid setup under peak ownership, i just hope they kept some of the same guys on park crew and they’re given freedom to build shit
SkiBum.Rumor is Big Boulder opening day tomorrow with no park features. First time in like 15 years for that.
MMairoseApparently they did put end up putting out a few features but supposedly all the rails were rusty and the boxes were delaminating so kids were eating shit on them all day
MaimHelpAny update on this. Don’t feel like ruining my skis tomorrow
Yung_Gnarleythis thread is making me feel really lucky to have gotten to lap keystone and breck when they had the XL parks still. Keystone's especially. They had some of the most absurd setups
MMairoseNot sure, I saw this from a bunch of comments on the JFBB instagram page since they barely post on big boulders page now. It’s basically the only way to get any info on what’s going on boulder since vail sucks at communicating
T.L.I worked parks at Beaver Creek for 5 years and left this past fall. Rodeo park was killed after no one complained that it was gone after a shit snow year. Lumberyard was killed even after it was built and set up 2 years in a row. Zoom Room got the axe this year because covid and the budget was cut twice by the time I left that totaled over 50% gone.
Talked to a few of the guys still there and I guess they built a small park in the base area with a 4 pack of small jumps. They were told to doze them out after they were already built. I guess they want everyone to play dead and not exceed the customers pre existing low expectations due to covid.
VR parks are not in a good spot right now. They're bleeding talent, they lack vision, innovation, and homogenization when it comes to best practices across all their resorts. There is some MAJOR fucked up shit I've seen on social media that's going to land them hot water if the wrong thing happens at the right time. The worst part.... They know all that and no one seems to care.
