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eheathJust let other people do what they want, you wearing a helmet and skiing sets a precedent in general but don't expect others to feel the same way you do.
jackjstupidity really does be the fit nowadays tbh
Ethan_pollock3Phil Casabon once said " If I wear a helmet I'm planning to hit my head, and if I don't put it on Im not planning on doing so"
PeteMahnHonestly I don't understand why people give a fuck and bring this up in the first place. I do and don't wear a helmet and same with people I ski with. That being said I don't think differently or say anything to anyone as they can make their own decisions. Were all adults let everyone do what they want. I assume no one gave a fuck that you were wearing a helmet, so carry on and have fun with everyone. At the end of the day just let people make their own decisions. If you feel it's smart to wear a helmet then do so. Who cares what everyone else does, it shouldn't change anything. The problem I have is If you go somewhere and see a bunch of people not wearing helmets so you take yours off and vice versa. Stick to your own decisions/opinion and don't worry about others.
The last thing we need is people preaching to others about the decisions they make. Everyone knows the risks and choices they take.
pbsI give a fuck because I am an empathic person that cares about the well-being of others??? Maybe I should have made it clearer in the posting but I simply want to understand the thoughts that go into not wearing a helmet. I’m not Karening people on hill.
SkibumsmithRead an interesting article recently.
"A neck that is stronger, thicker or aligned in a forward posture -- with the ears ahead of rather than aligned with the shoulders -- may reduce the amount of energy transferred to the brain during an impact, thus reducing the risk and severity of injury," said Carrie Esopenko, an assistant professor at the School of Health Professions and the report's senior author.
Basically some people are more prone to brain injuries during a crash than other people.
ChillTeenDad420Wear a helmet if you want, don't if you don't. That's all.
There is still no conclusive evidence that states in a snowsports setting that helmets decrease your risk of injury much more than a few percentage points. Citation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3989528/
It can't hurt to wear a helmet, but don't be under the illusion that you can't get a TBI if you're wearing one. Helmets are good at protecting against impact trauma, and not great at protecting against concussions.
I wish it was so easy just to say that "helmets guarantee increased safety" but the data just isn't really there. MIPS might change the equation but who knows. It probably doesn't hurt to wear one, but somewhat counterintuitively, there isn't a lot of evidence to support helmets strongly protecting against brain injury while skiing.
There's tons of science still to be done with helmets and hopefully some of us can be the ones to help figure this shit out. We need effective helmets in our sport
Ethan_pollock3Phil Casabon once said " If I wear a helmet I'm planning to hit my head, and if I don't put it on Im not planning on doing so"
ChillTeenDad420Wear a helmet if you want, don't if you don't. That's all.
There is still no conclusive evidence that states in a snowsports setting that helmets decrease your risk of injury much more than a few percentage points. Citation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3989528/
MarkusFinSummary
The use of safety helmets clearly decreases the risk and severity of head injuries as compared to non-helmeted participants in skiing and snowboarding. The beneficial effects of helmets are not negated by unintended risks as their use does not appear to increase the risk of neck or cervical spine injury as compared to non-helmeted participants in skiing and snowboarding. The use of safety helmets also does not appear to increase the risk of compensation behavior as compared to non-helmeted participants in skiing and snowboarding. Therefore, helmets are strongly recommended during recreational skiing and snowboarding. Limitations in current studies have been highlighted and need to be appropriately addressed in future investigations on the subject.
ChillTeenDad420The conclusion for that study (almost 20 years old btw) stated the valence of the effect of helmets but not of the significance. The rest of the study has mixed results.
Here's a study from 2020 that further muddies the waters:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31335753/
Ethan_pollock3Phil Casabon once said " If I wear a helmet I'm planning to hit my head, and if I don't put it on Im not planning on doing so"
pbsJust moved down to SLC from Washington. Have been up to “Alta park” and the bonezone and I was the only one wearing a helmet at either spot. I completely understand that not wearing a helmet feels good and looks better, yet for me that doesn’t out weight the risk of getting a head injury. Maybe I slam more than normal or maybe I’m a pussy? idk helmets just seem more common in WA. Any folks that have been here longer got any ideas?
ChillTeenDad420The conclusion for that study (almost 20 years old btw) stated the valence of the effect of helmets but not of the significance. The rest of the study has mixed results.
Here's a study from 2020 that further muddies the waters:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31335753/
"Helmet use doubled during the study period (43% to 81%, p < 0.001), but the rate of any head injury did not significantly change (49% to 43%, p = 0.499). On multivariable regression, helmeted patients were significantly more likely to suffer severe injury (odds ratio [OR], 2.01; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.30-3.11), intracranial hemorrhage (OR, 1.81; 95% CI, 1.10-2.96), chest injury (OR, 1.66; 95% CI, 1.05-2.61), and/or lumbosacral spine injury (OR, 1.84; 95% CI, 1.04-3.25) than unhelmeted patients. Helmeted patients were half as likely to suffer cervical spine injury (OR, 0.51; 95% CI, 0.30-0.89) and a third as likely to sustain skull fracture and/or scalp laceration (OR, 0.30; 95% CI, 0.14-0.64). More patients who hit a stationary object were helmeted compared with those who fell from standing height onto snow (70% vs. 56% respectively, p < 0.001). After adjustment, hitting a stationary object was the injury mechanism most significantly associated with severe injury (OR, 2.80; 95% CI, 1.79-4.38).
Conclusion: Helmeted skiers and snowboarders evaluated at a Level I trauma center were more likely to suffer severe injury, including intracranial hemorrhage, as compared with unhelmeted participants. However, they were less likely to sustain skull fractures or cervical spine injuries. Helmeted patients were also more likely to hit a stationary object. Our findings reinforce the importance of safe skiing practices and trauma evaluation after high-impact injury, regardless of helmet use."
BagOTricksI feel like anyone that doesn't wear a helmet is someone who hasn't been there to witness a traumatic brain injury or doesn't know someone that's had a traumatic brain injury. Shit is no joke, but without being personally affected I can see how it's easy to think nothing bad will ever happen. I'll always suggest wearing a helmet because I've seen what head injuries are all about, and have seen that helmets literally save lives.
I will never not have a helmet on no matter if it's on a backyard PVC rail or PC laps. I get doing early season tricks on a tiny rail may seem harmless, but I'd just rather not risk it. I'm also in the minority that think helmets can look dope.
