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1NF1N1T3I will get downvoted for this, but I think you’re a pussy if you need these things.
It’s stupid how much a good diet, regular exercise and a supportive social environment improve your mental health.
Ive always gone on with the mindset of picking my balls up no matter how bad things get
1NF1N1T3I will get downvoted for this, but I think you’re a pussy if you need these things.
It’s stupid how much a good diet, regular exercise and a supportive social environment improve your mental health.
Ive always gone on with the mindset of picking my balls up no matter how bad things get
r00kieWhile diet exercise and all that can go a long way depression, bi-polar, etc. are illnesses just like the flu or something. Some folks genuinely need the help. Should the meds be an option reserved for those who have tried what you suggested already? Absolutely. But to call those who need them a pussy is inconsiderate of their situation.
MinggMeds can be life changing if used properly and are prescribed appropriately. Diet exercise and such can all improve your physical and mental wellness but they’re not going to fix neurotransmitter imbalances associated with mental illness.There is a big difference in having a mental illness and going through a hard time/being unable to cope with x, y or z. Don’t confuse that with having an actual disorder that needs treatment. There’s nothing wrong with meds and things are not as simple as saying to “not be a pussy,” or whatever.
1NF1N1T3The thing is it is that simple.
Deal with it like we did back in the day, Put on your cowboy hat and truck on.
r00kieAnd we wonder why men have such high suicide rates.
weastcoastTitle. always wondered if they were for better or for worse.
1NF1N1T3The thing is it is that simple.
Deal with it like we did back in the day, Put on your cowboy hat and truck on.
.MASSHOLE.There's a difference between having a rough period and having legitimate mental health issues. There's no shame in either just as there's no shame in getting help.
ronders_Well benzos really do literally eliminate anxiety. This is the reason why people do really dumb shit on bars, because there is literally no self doubt, anxiety, or foresight of a bad outcome. It's also why they're cripplingly addictive.
Really powerful shit, not to be messed with.
weastcoastYa I think I’ve found which it is, it’s been ongoing for almost 2 years and what I’ve found out this past season it’s honestly affecting my skiing, cause skiing used to be a cure-all for it all but now its not even making me happy anymore. In the past id be damned if anything other than skiing was going through my head while on the hill but that’s def not the case anymore
weastcoastYa I think I’ve found which it is, it’s been ongoing for almost 2 years and what I’ve found out this past season it’s honestly affecting my skiing, cause skiing used to be a cure-all for it all but now its not even making me happy anymore. In the past id be damned if anything other than skiing was going through my head while on the hill but that’s def not the case anymore
MinggIt’s easier to get out of a 2 foot hole than a 10 foot hole in the event something is wrong.
MinggI think it’s funny that you’re the only one who upvoted your post lol
I don’t care how much self care, positive thoughts, coping skills or defense mechanisms someone uses, those techniques alone arent going to entirely nor effectively treat a true mental illness. Treating mental illness is never a one size fits all kind of thing. I’m glad that you were able to deal with your issue(s) by just “dealing with it” or whatever that means but that is not practical advice to give to the majority of the population struggling.
**This post was edited on Oct 30th 2020 at 10:39:09pm
coolflash8Depression and anxiety aren't real
1NF1N1T3Haha lol that’s so funny!!!!!!
Not (read in borat voice)
mental illness doesn’t even exist
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/978061/Thomas-Szasz--Does-mental-illness-exist-
weastcoastThere’s literally studies on studies backing up the fact that people can sometimes develop a chemical imbalance in their brain lmao. Maybe you don’t understand that, so let me break it down as I would to a 4th grader. Too much of some chemicals, not enough of other, results in altered thoughts and behavior. Common fucking sense.
That’s like saying cancer doesn’t exist because the person is just choosing to have a brain tumor the size of a golf ball and if they think really REALLY hard enough they can just make it disappear and everything. Is fine. Fucking asinine idiot.
1NF1N1T3That is the worst comparison ever lol!
What illnesses specifically are caused by chemical imbalance?
1NF1N1T3That is the worst comparison ever lol!
What illnesses specifically are caused by chemical imbalance?
1NF1N1T3That is the worst comparison ever lol!
What illnesses specifically are caused by chemical imbalance?
Bened_notnilYou are joking. Lots of illnesses and disorders are caused by hormonal (chemical) imbalances. For example, diabetes (duh), anxiety & depression (which I know you don't believe in), Erectile Dysfunction, dwarfism, even autism can be linked to an excess of hormones and chemicals in the brain. I'm sure I could come up with more if I put a moment's thought into this.
Think before posting next time.
MinggDepression, anxiety disorders, bipolar, schizophrenia, specifically for mental illness. Type 1 diabetes is caused by the inability for the pancreas to produce and secrete insulin, aka a chemical. osteoporosis in post menopausal women do to the decrease/lack of estrogen, aka a chemical. Honestly, nearly every endocrine disorder, most immunologic disorders, and most blood disorders are Influenced, caused and/or exacerbated by chemical imbalances.
1NF1N1T3Scientifically speaking, there never has been a network of validated hypotheses capable of sustaining a full-blown, global chemical imbalance theory of mental illness.
Hell take schizophrenia, there is research showing that aberrant neural oscillations as well as microtubule abnormalities cause a faulty unconscious that makes it unable to untangle quantum information to the conscious mind.
weastcoastTitle. always wondered if they were for better or for worse.
1NF1N1T3I think you have a skewed and over simplified view of these processes and systems.
Trumpkin2020Please elaborate. It's been a while since I've schooled someone on here.
1NF1N1T3Oh wow! Check out Mr hotshot, ready to school the smartest person on NS. I’m literally shaking 🐐
Bened_notnilYou're dodging the question...
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Bened_notnilYou're dodging the question...
**This post was edited on Oct 31st 2020 at 12:50:39am
LonelyWow, the guy who wears a mask during zoom and lies about his height on the internet is dodging a question?
1NF1N1T3Scientifically speaking, there never has been a network of validated hypotheses capable of sustaining a full-blown, global chemical imbalance theory of mental illness.
Hell take schizophrenia, there is research showing that aberrant neural oscillations as well as microtubule abnormalities cause a faulty unconscious that makes it unable to untangle quantum information to the conscious mind.
1NF1N1T3Or maybe I’m not invested enough to care about a pity debate on newschoolers that achieves nothing but the bolstering of egos.
souljaboyfan2006That's incorrect. The Quantum Eraser/Delayed Choice experiments prove that interaction with the first set of detectors is insufficient to collapse the wavefunction/superposition. It's only when the entangled particles arrive at the 2nd set of detectors that determine whether or not which-way information is knowable, does the superposition collapse at the first set, resulting in the correlations. But for the info to be knowable at the second set in order to bring about particle-behaviour, rather than interference patterns, requires a differentiation between what is knowable within the system from what is not, but it's insufficient for the path-info to be knowable to the system itself (ie. the particle that travels), since we detect an interference pattern for that condition. And the interaction with the detector is insufficient, since the behaviour of the first particles of the entangled pairs interacting with the first set of detectors is always found to correlate with the 2nd pair-particle whose behaviour is determined by whether or not path-info is knowable. This demonstrates that a knower is required *within the system*, to which the info is either knowable or not knowable. This is what determines the manifest behaviour. Not the interaction with the detector itself, since the first set of detectors fail to collapse the wavefunction out of its suspended state of superposition, independent of time, or external to time, and it's only when the entangled particle subsequently follows its own path that the condition of knowable/not-knowable is satisfied, that the first particle can take on fixed properties to correlate with the conditions of its entangled-pair particle. So effectively, the image is necessarily and demonstrably created in the moment of observation. The info is then overlaid onto the past, such that the correlation is always correct, even when the conditions for the first entangled particle are no longer congruent with the actual outcome. If you have 2 paths available for your first entangled-pair particle, but you close off one path after the particle will have travelled through that path, but prior to its interaction with the detector, you will have get a particle-behaviour outcome, even though both paths were open during the actual 'travel-time'. If you leave both paths open until the particle hits the detector, you will always find interference-pattern/waveform behaviour, whereby the particle effectively travels down both paths and interferes with itself as it comes together to hit the detector. The closed-path is irrelevant and yet it affects the manifestation of particle/interference because only the information available within the system in the moment of detection seems to be determining the behaviour of the particle within that system. Not the information existent within the system during what we would describe as the travel-time. Only the info available in the moment of detection. In fact, scientists at the Australian National University have shown that photons don't actually travel between 2 points (ex. points A and B) at all. (link below) Rather, when you measure them at B, a path-history is created that conforms to the conditions of the system in the moment of detection, not prior to it. And that path-history/information appears to then be overlaid onto the past. This is a variant of Wheeler's Delayed Choice Experiment, or Quantum Eraser experiments. Plants use this to make photosynthesis work, in a fascinating way. Photons act as probability waveforms until they reach the chlorophyll cells, where they suddenly behave as particles, allowing photosynthesis to take place. If you're interested, there's amazing research that's been done on this topic in the past 7 or so years. Unobserved by a conscious observer, a photon exists as a probability distribution spread across the entire universe, meaning any 2 photons that are unobserved, have p-values for/at every point in the universe. This, in and of itself, results in interference. Article here: http://www.anu.edu.au%2Fnews%2Fall-news%2Fexperiment-confirms-quantum-theory-weirdness&stzid=UgyTVYurLZ3gWlB5JUZ4AaABAg.98whpofbPZq9937bZN21in]http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/experiment-confirms-quantum-theory-weirdness Also here: http://www.newscientist.com%2Farticle%2Fmg12517072-800-science-a-watched-atom-never-decays%2F&stzid=UgyTVYurLZ3gWlB5JUZ4AaABAg.98whpofbPZq9937bZN21in]https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12517072-800-science-a-watched-atom-never-decays/ These articles are intended for you to use as starting points for your further research into these topics.[/url][/url]
**This post was edited on Oct 31st 2020 at 12:56:57am
souljaboyfan2006That's incorrect. The Quantum Eraser/Delayed Choice experiments prove that interaction with the first set of detectors is insufficient to collapse the wavefunction/superposition. It's only when the entangled particles arrive at the 2nd set of detectors that determine whether or not which-way information is knowable, does the superposition collapse at the first set, resulting in the correlations. But for the info to be knowable at the second set in order to bring about particle-behaviour, rather than interference patterns, requires a differentiation between what is knowable within the system from what is not, but it's insufficient for the path-info to be knowable to the system itself (ie. the particle that travels), since we detect an interference pattern for that condition. And the interaction with the detector is insufficient, since the behaviour of the first particles of the entangled pairs interacting with the first set of detectors is always found to correlate with the 2nd pair-particle whose behaviour is determined by whether or not path-info is knowable. This demonstrates that a knower is required *within the system*, to which the info is either knowable or not knowable. This is what determines the manifest behaviour. Not the interaction with the detector itself, since the first set of detectors fail to collapse the wavefunction out of its suspended state of superposition, independent of time, or external to time, and it's only when the entangled particle subsequently follows its own path that the condition of knowable/not-knowable is satisfied, that the first particle can take on fixed properties to correlate with the conditions of its entangled-pair particle. So effectively, the image is necessarily and demonstrably created in the moment of observation. The info is then overlaid onto the past, such that the correlation is always correct, even when the conditions for the first entangled particle are no longer congruent with the actual outcome. If you have 2 paths available for your first entangled-pair particle, but you close off one path after the particle will have travelled through that path, but prior to its interaction with the detector, you will have get a particle-behaviour outcome, even though both paths were open during the actual 'travel-time'. If you leave both paths open until the particle hits the detector, you will always find interference-pattern/waveform behaviour, whereby the particle effectively travels down both paths and interferes with itself as it comes together to hit the detector. The closed-path is irrelevant and yet it affects the manifestation of particle/interference because only the information available within the system in the moment of detection seems to be determining the behaviour of the particle within that system. Not the information existent within the system during what we would describe as the travel-time. Only the info available in the moment of detection. In fact, scientists at the Australian National University have shown that photons don't actually travel between 2 points (ex. points A and B) at all. (link below) Rather, when you measure them at B, a path-history is created that conforms to the conditions of the system in the moment of detection, not prior to it. And that path-history/information appears to then be overlaid onto the past. This is a variant of Wheeler's Delayed Choice Experiment, or Quantum Eraser experiments. Plants use this to make photosynthesis work, in a fascinating way. Photons act as probability waveforms until they reach the chlorophyll cells, where they suddenly behave as particles, allowing photosynthesis to take place. If you're interested, there's amazing research that's been done on this topic in the past 7 or so years. Unobserved by a conscious observer, a photon exists as a probability distribution spread across the entire universe, meaning any 2 photons that are unobserved, have p-values for/at every point in the universe. This, in and of itself, results in interference. Article here: http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/experiment-confirms-quantum-theory-weirdness Also here: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12517072-800-science-a-watched-atom-never-decays/ These articles are intended for you to use as starting points for your further research into these topics.
**This post was edited on Oct 31st 2020 at 12:58:55am
MinggI mean, I’m genuinely interested in this research showing that aberrant neural oscillations as well as microtubule abnormalities cause a faulty unconscious that makes it unable to untangle quantum information to the conscious mind.
1NF1N1T3I will get downvoted for this, but I think you’re a pussy if you need these things.
It’s stupid how much a good diet, regular exercise and a supportive social environment improve your mental health.
Ive always gone on with the mindset of picking my balls up no matter how bad things get
Bened_notnilImo, the solution to mental health problems isn't altering your mental state with drugs. Exercise, healthy diet, good sleep, and not using drugs at all would seem to be more helpful
1NF1N1T3Unless you’re dealing with extreme cases of mental Illness and thought disorders (like schizophrenia) you can master your own thought patterns and get better without external help.
The best person to help yourself is yourself. You know what’s best to do. Drugs to help you are the easy way out and perhaps that’s part of the problem, people who use and want to use prescription drugs have a skewed perception on reality. In the sense that they are shy of hard work and expect life to be easy. The truth is it’s not, but as I’ve said you’ve got to pick your balls up and send it.
theabortionatorYou're delusional. Good luck with that. People kill themselves, end up homeless, and all kinds of other shit because they take advice from people like you. Way to go.
Sorry for the trip post but I'm impressed with how shitty the replies in this thread are.
1NF1N1T3If someone killed them selves because of what a guy on an Internet forum said, really just proves my point.
I say what I say because of dealt with these things, hell I was kicked out of home at 16. I could of got in with the wrong crowd dealing drugs or whatever. But I said fuck it. And now at 22 I’m more successful than 99% of people my age because of my mentality.