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Experimenting with mounting points

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MarkusFin
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I've ridden the mordecai 193 with the recommended -2cm mount and I've really grown to love it.

I just bought a pair of 193 mindbender 108ti, and I'm wondering if mounting them at reccommended at 9.75(?) would make the ski very fucking different to what I'm used to.

Would the ski feel change drastically if I mounted it at +2 of recommended?
Oct 19 2020 5:39PM
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shinbangclan
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Maybe if you want to ski switch everywhere...?
Oct 20 2020 7:16AM
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tomPietrowski
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+2cm is actually pretty much the sweet spot for that ski especially if you are used to a more forward mount on other skis.
Oct 20 2020 10:58AM
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cohen.skier
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MarkusFinI've ridden the mordecai 193 with the recommended -2cm mount and I've really grown to love it.

I just bought a pair of 193 mindbender 108ti, and I'm wondering if mounting them at reccommended at 9.75(?) would make the ski very fucking different to what I'm used to.

Would the ski feel change drastically if I mounted it at +2 of recommended?


yo thanks for this thread i got the same skis and i have the same question.
Oct 20 2020 11:01AM
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shinbangclan
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tomPietrowski+2cm is actually pretty much the sweet spot for that ski especially if you are used to a more forward mount on other skis.


Wait, there's forward mounts? Is this +2cm from center or from factory reccomended?
Oct 21 2020 4:43AM
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tomPietrowski
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shinbangclanWait, there's forward mounts? Is this +2cm from center or from factory reccomended?


+2cm from recommended. You would not want to really go too close to center on that ski so usually people reference recommended
Oct 21 2020 11:02AM
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.nasty
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shinbangclanWait, there's forward mounts? Is this +2cm from center or from factory reccomended?


I know I've had some Scandinavian kids want me to mount their skis +1 or +2 from true center. Shit's wild.
Oct 21 2020 1:21PM
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Cade2
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tomPietrowski+2cm is actually pretty much the sweet spot for that ski especially if you are used to a more forward mount on other skis.


Tom, do you have any experience with mindbenders being mounted around plus 4 or 5? Similar to an On3p or moment rec point, Im curious to see how they ski 4 or 5 back from true center.
Oct 21 2020 2:08PM
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tomPietrowski
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Cade2Tom, do you have any experience with mindbenders being mounted around plus 4 or 5? Similar to an On3p or moment rec point, Im curious to see how they ski 4 or 5 back from true center.


It varies alot on which model. I have my 116c skis mounted about +3cm from rec if I remember right and I have seen some of our athletes use them much further forward then that, but it will drastically change how the ski performs, which may be fine if this is just a big pow ski and nothing else but if you still want them to carve some groomers it may not be ideal.
Oct 21 2020 4:56PM
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.nasty
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tomPietrowskiIt varies alot on which model. I have my 116c skis mounted about +3cm from rec if I remember right and I have seen some of our athletes use them much further forward then that, but it will drastically change how the ski performs, which may be fine if this is just a big pow ski and nothing else but if you still want them to carve some groomers it may not be ideal.

you like yours at +3? I went factory and never seemed to desire more tail.
Oct 21 2020 5:03PM
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tomPietrowski
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.nastyyou like yours at +3? I went factory and never seemed to desire more tail.


Yeah I way preferred them forward. I think I only did 2-3 laps on them before I moved them forward (demo binding) and found my sweet spot was about 3cm forward. Just made them easier to pivot fast for me and also felt better switch.
Oct 21 2020 5:12PM
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animator
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tomPietrowskiYeah I way preferred them forward. I think I only did 2-3 laps on them before I moved them forward (demo binding) and found my sweet spot was about 3cm forward. Just made them easier to pivot fast for me and also felt better switch.


You ski a Mindbender 116 switch?
Oct 22 2020 1:57PM
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tomPietrowski
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animatorYou ski a Mindbender 116 switch?


Yep, not a ton but the turned up tail and rocker along with a forward mount make it ok. No reckoner 122 but yeah it works
Oct 22 2020 3:02PM
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.nasty
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animatorYou ski a Mindbender 116 switch?


All you need in life is a little early rise in the tail.
Oct 22 2020 5:50PM
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MarkusFin
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.nastyI know I've had some Scandinavian kids want me to mount their skis +1 or +2 from true center. Shit's wild.





I'm scandi myself but I don't think I want to try out +2 center yet lmao
Oct 25 2020 10:38PM
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animator
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MarkusFinI'm scandi myself but I don't think I want to try out +2 center yet lmao


Is this a thing? What are the benefits of that?
Oct 25 2020 11:18PM
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.nasty
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animatorIs this a thing? What are the benefits of that?

it was always Finnish kids, they ski urban switch more than forward apparently.
Oct 26 2020 8:48AM
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animator
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.nastyit was always Finnish kids, they ski urban switch more than forward apparently.


That’s fucking sick
Oct 26 2020 9:38AM
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cohen.skier
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I mounted my mindbenders (108 ti) at +2 from center. skiid em for the first time yesterday and they feel so nice.
Oct 26 2020 10:56AM
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MarkusFin
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cohen.skierI mounted my mindbenders (108 ti) at +2 from center. skiid em for the first time yesterday and they feel so nice.


from center? or reccomended?
Oct 26 2020 1:01PM
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Corey_O132
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I mounted my Kartel 108s +1. They are by far the best I've ever skied on. When it comes down to it a couple cm in either direction doesn't make too drastic of a difference, but usually when a company has a recommended of -2 or -4 then the top of the camber will typically be pushed back a centimeter or two. At the end of the day it doesn't make a huge difference, but I do like the feel of +1 as far as I can tell. Maybe it's a placebo or something.
Oct 26 2020 1:04PM
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cohen.skier
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MarkusFinfrom center? or reccomended?


Meant to say reccomended haha
Oct 27 2020 4:05PM
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