Just ordered Daymakers now what?

CatdickBojanglesJust ordered a set of Daymakers to do some uphill travel. I'm on the east coast so my tours will be limited to resort and nothing long. Mainly just for the extra exercise and trying something new. I won't have the most ideal set up but just to start I don't think it will be bad. Here's my long list of questions:

1. What skis should I use? (Jeffrey 96s, Vishnu Wides, or Hellbents)
2. Should I worry about the skin glue affecting the ski I choose? (They won't be used exclusively to tour)
3. What skins should I go with? (Currently looking at Big Sky Mtn Products)
4. Should I just look for a lighter ski and binding set up 2nd hand for cheap?
5. Final question touring in FT First Chair 10s any advice?

Any and all advice is much appreciated

Bened_notnil1. I personally would not bother touring on the wides or Jeffs. Just because when I tour I usually try and get into the deep stuff, so I'd say hellbents, or a whole new ski if that's an option.

5. I had first chairs a couple of years back and they were pretty uncomfortable for me around the heel and middle of foot. But I have a pretty weird foot so that might just be me.

Have fun out there!

CatdickBojanglesJust ordered a set of Daymakers to do some uphill travel. I'm on the east coast so my tours will be limited to resort and nothing long. Mainly just for the extra exercise and trying something new. I won't have the most ideal set up but just to start I don't think it will be bad. Here's my long list of questions:

1. What skis should I use? (Jeffrey 96s, Vishnu Wides, or Hellbents)
2. Should I worry about the skin glue affecting the ski I choose? (They won't be used exclusively to tour)
3. What skins should I go with? (Currently looking at Big Sky Mtn Products)
4. Should I just look for a lighter ski and binding set up 2nd hand for cheap?
5. Final question touring in FT First Chair 10s any advice?

Any and all advice is much appreciated

hot.pocket1. Jeffrey 96
2. No
3. Pomoca Pro S-Glide, but I think @cydwhit is a big proponent of Big Sky Mtn skins so he can chime in too
4. No*
5. Take the tongues off for the uphill

*unless you get a pair of touring boots and pin bindings. The weight isn't as much of an issue as the pivot point of daymakers, and just getting a lighter setup won't make touring significantly easier for you.

Disclaimer that everyone is tired of hearing: As long as you're hiking inside the resort you're chill, get all the safety equipment and education before venturing outside the resort.

cydwhitEverything this guy said.

I know lots of folks like Pomocas, I had a pair that had terrible glue failure in 8 days of touring. And they cost a shit ton.

BSMP pays me to do illustrations, but before that, they were already my favorite skins. Best value for the money, stupid durable (entering year three of lots of walking, no real wear yet.) and if you rub wax on them every ten tours or so, they glide as well as the Pomoca.

Not to mention you're supporting hella ethical US manufacturing. The guys making them are some of the coolest, most dedicated skiers ever.

CatdickBojanglesWhat skin from them would you recommend? The Rover?

CatdickBojanglesJust ordered a set of Daymakers to do some uphill travel. I'm on the east coast so my tours will be limited to resort and nothing long. Mainly just for the extra exercise and trying something new. I won't have the most ideal set up but just to start I don't think it will be bad. Here's my long list of questions:

1. What skis should I use? (Jeffrey 96s, Vishnu Wides, or Hellbents)
2. Should I worry about the skin glue affecting the ski I choose? (They won't be used exclusively to tour)
3. What skins should I go with? (Currently looking at Big Sky Mtn Products)
4. Should I just look for a lighter ski and binding set up 2nd hand for cheap?
5. Final question touring in FT First Chair 10s any advice?

Any and all advice is much appreciated

K-Dot.based on your second question i would also suggest taking a backcountry 101 course to familiarize yourself with how to use a beacon/probe/shovel and how to read the mountain and the forecast to avoid getting into bad situations

CatdickBojanglesJust ordered a set of Daymakers to do some uphill travel. I'm on the east coast so my tours will be limited to resort and nothing long. Mainly just for the extra exercise and trying something new. I won't have the most ideal set up but just to start I don't think it will be bad. Here's my long list of questions:

1. What skis should I use? (Jeffrey 96s, Vishnu Wides, or Hellbents)
2. Should I worry about the skin glue affecting the ski I choose? (They won't be used exclusively to tour)
3. What skins should I go with? (Currently looking at Big Sky Mtn Products)
4. Should I just look for a lighter ski and binding set up 2nd hand for cheap?
5. Final question touring in FT First Chair 10s any advice?

Any and all advice is much appreciated

Twig1. Whichever of the Jeffrey and Vishnu is lighter, it might be the Vishnus.
2. No, wax em if they get slow.
3. I like Pomoca if you can get em cheap. I had the glueless ones (Faction branded) and loved them, they took away a ton of hassle and I never had any issues. Also, Big Sky Mtn look dope, I know nothing about them but I trust CY to know his shit more than most.

4. Nah, Daymakers aren't a light option in the first place so don't worry about a 100g here and there.

5. They'll be fine, you can take the tongues off if you want, but i tour on the Full Tilt/Daymaker combo a fair amount and it's fine. If you do tour a lot and enjoy it, get a touring boot though, it makes a difference. If you fit Full Tilts, the Roxa R3 130 is fairly close in fit to the FT Soul Shell.

CatdickBojanglesSo slight change of plans ended up picking up a pair of Sakanas (shout out to @.nasty for the great deal for Newschoolers!) they are demos and have griffon demos mounted, now my question is with the already high stack height of the demo binding with the added height of daymakers will it be too high and make uphill travel awkward? Or will it be fine?

I'd like to wait to see how much I like uphill to swap bindings on the Sakanas any maybe do a shift or duke PT. But I'm also probably going to ski them alot his year because of how fun they are.

cydwhitPretty sure the Griffon demo has the same height as the regular, so stack height is no more of an issue than it would be on any other binding.



Yes, your stack height is gonna suck, but that’s the Daymaker’s fault, not the bindings. That’s a fun ski to walk on, although probably less fun with adapters haha.

CatdickBojanglesOk awesome I wasn't sure if the demo stack height was the same or not and yeah hopefully I enjoy it and can justify the coast of new boots and pin bindings next season. Fingers crossed Full Tilt can get some FTS shells with walk mode and tech inserts before I pull the trigger.

animatorJust got a Roxa R3 fits almost the same as the FTS just more modern

CatdickBojanglesYeah those are on my list of boots to replace my FTs or just as a touring boot.

snowmosexualSick thing about the daymakers is you can tour on all of your skis, right? For skins don't get g3s, fishscale (volkl, fischer), or complete mohair. Nylon is where its at. I've got black diamond ascensionist cause they were the cheapest I could find. They've worked great for 3 seasons so far without any maintenance.

CatdickBojanglesYeah very true just need to get skins for each pair.

CatdickBojanglesYeah very true just need to get skins for each pair.

cydwhitPlease don't buy multiple pairs of skins before you buy real touring bindings.

I'm stoked you're getting into uphill skiing, and I'm not trying to undermine your purchase, it's just that I "made do" with inferior backcountry gear for way too long before I let my friends convince me to go with a tech setup. And then I was really mad that I'd accumulated this other gear that wasn't fun to use and had no real resale value.

You can ride a moped up dirtbike trails, and have fun doing it. But don't buy yourself moto boots and nice tires and fancy lights for that moped instead of just saving for a dirtbike.

CatdickBojanglesNow the question is will any skin clip work on the swallow tail of the sakanas?

JohnnyDopeHey folks,

Pre season stoke is here so I'm bumping this old one I found since I am finally pulling a trigger on a new pair of skis and bindings.

I'm in basically same boots like OP when posting, I wanna join some of my friends that have been touring for a couple of years now but don't really want to invest in a full touring setup straight up. I'm 6'2 (190cm) 85kg and currently riding a pair of 2013 Dynastar 6th Sense slicer 181's (Menace 98 now) with some griffons and I loved them so far. Bought them new in 2017 now it's time to treat myself with a new pair.

I'll be able to grab Sakanas for a good price (a friend will start importing and reselling from a factory that (K2,Full Tilt, Line, Nitro,etc) (I live in Serbia, we are just getting into freeski industry when it comes to shops actually selling any type of twintips and/or touring gear. sucks, I know :( )

When It comes to bindings and buying them in a store I have only 2 options atm. Duke Pros (110mm) for $330 and Marker Tour10's (100mm) $230.
What would fit better on Sakanas, and would the 10's be enough for my weight and height? I ski 10din on the griffons and haven't had any problems so far. Would I have any issues if I put the 10din on tours and run them like that all the time? I do ski pretty aggressively and like to jump around pretty much all the time.

OP what skins did you end up getting and how did they work?

You liked Sakanas for walking uphill ?


Btw, we just had a first snow of the year at my home resort! Happy shredding season everyone!

CatdickBojanglesAvoid the Marker Tour10s especially at your height and weight, 100% go for the Duke Pros. I have loved the Sakanas for uphill and downhill, its the first directional ski I have bought in years. It is light enough to not be cumbersome on the up and so much fun to ski on the way down, I highly recommend it. Granted I am not doing super long tours because my only option is a resort.

I went with the Big Sky Mountain Rover skins. Might be hard to get in Serbia not sure what options you will have. The hardest part about the Sakanas is the Swallow tail and making sure your hardware will fit. The clips on these work great for the stranf tail shape. Here is a link to their site: https://skiskinsonline.com/product-category/ski-skins/

It looks like Daymaker ships international using some of the retailers. Have you considered Daymakers and a normal binding instead of frame bindings?

JohnnyDopeI have considered daymakers but since I do not have a spare pair of bindings, I'd have to get new ones anyways.
That would be a bit more than I can spend at the moment, I'd rather get a new pair of boots as well.

I will probably go with the Dukes since I will also be doing mostly light tours and I can get them in like 6 months payment plan lol.

What brake size are you running on Sakanas?
Are the 110mm brakes going to be ok?


I dig the BS Rovers, thanks for the reply!