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Breonna Taylor Case: One officer charged with 3 counts wanton endangerment. $15k cash bond.
LonelySo I looked at some of the stuff again. The warrant was originally signed as a no-knock, then it was changed to a knock and announce not long before the warrant was served. According to the New York Times that interviewed some neighbors, a few said they did not announce and a couple said that they did. The AG confirmed that they announced with only one witness. Surprised they did not bring more in, at least that I heard about. All cops should have body cams. I do not understand why some departments are against them. They would do more to help officers than hurt them. Especially when it appears there was some false reporting by the police in the actual report. Intentional or not it really doesn't help their case.
It still blows my mind that someone who was in there home, late at night, and did not shoot at police was shot and killed by police and not even a manslaughter charge was brought forward. It scares me as a gun owner, that using my firearms to defend myself could easily get me killed.
I mean, look at these two cases.
In case one, the man answers the door with his gun, sees the police, and gets down on his knees while waist banding his firearm, which I believe he owned legally.
People can argue it is a high-stress job but the fact of the matter is that there needs to be an entire system overhaul. People who aren't committing crimes shouldn't have to fear getting shot and killed by police. The number of people we should be okay with dying that way is 0. There needs to be more accountability so we don't have to deal with cases like this. If one of my old roommates went to prison, I shouldn't have to fear that my life will be ended while doing nothing wrong by poorly trained cops.
I read The NY Times article, they seem to be the only source saying the no knock warrant was changed. I’ll have to follow up on that.
“Court records show that Louisville police obtained a warrant with a no-knock provision for Taylor's apartment approved by Jefferson Circuit Judge Mary Shaw, though police and prosecutors have said that the officers knocked and announced themselves before breaking down the door.”
This is from an article summarizing the interview with Mattingly when he describes the events of the night (And references the neighbor who heard them knocking):
“At one point in his interview, Mattingly describes a moment when a neighbor exchanged some words with Brett Hankison, who Interim Chief Robert Schroeder terminated in June. Mattingly told investigators Hankison seemed "worked up," and he tried getting him to relax.”
And here’s another source stating that it was a no-knock warrant but Mattingly was instructed to knock:
“Though the narcotics warrant that police say they were serving at Taylor's door was a so-called no-knock warrant, Mattingly told investigators the officers were instructed to knock on the door.”
A lot of varying accounts, though the majority of the facts seem to line up. This is far from over (Pending lawsuits and the like) so I’m sure we will keep getting updated information.
**This post was edited on Sep 24th 2020 at 9:00:48pm
Didn't read anything in the thread but here's my take: the no knock warrant might be justified in some cases where there's a high probability of escape or in terrorist examples, however do that shit during the day when you can see. Her boyfriend was there and shot a cop in the leg, very much left out of the news, so that's when they opened fire. She was definitely in the wrong place at the wrong time. The charges were determined by a jury with ALL the facts, which we might never know, so I'm deferring on this one. Fucked? Yes. Murder? Absolutely not.
Charlie_KellyI read The NY Times article, they seem to be the only source saying the no knock warrant was changed. I’ll have to follow up on that.
“Court records show that Louisville police obtained a warrant with a no-knock provision for Taylor's apartment approved by Jefferson Circuit Judge Mary Shaw, though police and prosecutors have said that the officers knocked and announced themselves before breaking down the door.”
This is from an article summarizing the interview with Mattingly when he describes the events of the night (And references the neighbor who heard them knocking):
“At one point in his interview, Mattingly describes a moment when a neighbor exchanged some words with Brett Hankison, who Interim Chief Robert Schroeder terminated in June. Mattingly told investigators Hankison seemed "worked up," and he tried getting him to relax.”
And here’s another source stating that it was a no-knock warrant but Mattingly was instructed to knock:
“Though the narcotics warrant that police say they were serving at Taylor's door was a so-called no-knock warrant, Mattingly told investigators the officers were instructed to knock on the door.”
A lot of varying accounts, though the majority of the facts seem to line up. This is far from over (Pending lawsuits and the like) so I’m sure we will keep getting updated information.
**This post was edited on Sep 24th 2020 at 9:00:48pm
Yeah, I have varying things from varying newsources. Likely because most news places are reporting other places reporting
DolanReloadedI have no sympathy for the uniquely american practice of letting cops do whatever the fuck they want and not get in trouble. And im a trump supporter.
i think you could get rid of the 33% of cops who are authority-loving(abusing) assholes and the country would still be a safe place.
If you want to defend your home,
buy a gun and defend your home like a man.
If you need the cops to defend you ur a fucking pussy.
Cops do more than just defend people. They're largely the first on scene to violent crimes and traumas.
DolanReloadedI have no sympathy for the uniquely american practice of letting cops do whatever the fuck they want and not get in trouble. And im a trump supporter.
i think you could get rid of the 33% of cops who are authority-loving(abusing) assholes and the country would still be a safe place.
If you want to defend your home,
buy a gun and defend your home like a man.
If you need the cops to defend you ur a fucking pussy.
Wow dolan I have to say I agree with you on this one. Never thought I'd see the day
ronders_Wow dolan I have to say I agree with you on this one. Never thought I'd see the day
Most reasonable people find libertarians pretty reasonable even if they arent libertarian themselves. I may be a radical libertarian, but im definitely a libertarian.
And yeah the state of police in the us should look to libertarian utopias like switzerland and czech rep. where police only enforce laws pertaining to robbery and violence.
its like the whole united states is full of ppl who watch CSI and law and order and think the country is crawling with evil criminals who will overthrow the whole country if they dont arrest and imprison as many of these bad people as possible.
of course some people are pieces of shit who deserve to be in jail. But america has per capita the highest incarceration rate in the world by far.
DolanReloadedAnd yeah the state of police in the us should look to libertarian utopias like switzerland and czech rep. where police only enforce laws pertaining to robbery and violence.
That's factually incorrect, Switzerland does not just enforce laws pertaining to robbery and violence. Top of mind example would be a speeding or parking ticket, very much enforced in Switzerland.
You really need to stop constantly making shit up.
Monsieur_PatateThat's factually incorrect, Switzerland does not just enforce laws pertaining to robbery and violence. Top of mind example would be a speeding or parking ticket, very much enforced in Switzerland.
You really need to stop constantly making shit up.
LonelyYeah, I have varying things from varying newsources. Likely because most news places are reporting other places reporting
The Courier Journal (which I cited twice) is the most circulated newspaper in Kentucky. They’ve been constantly updating the story. I trust them more than I do a NY Times, Fox, or CNN article (considering a lot of their reporting is “get the story out first, ask questions later”). It is crazy how we may never get the full story but that’s nothing new.
What do you get out of supporting cops that kill ppl?
Charlie_KellyThe Courier Journal (which I cited twice) is the most circulated newspaper in Kentucky. They’ve been constantly updating the story. I trust them more than I do a NY Times, Fox, or CNN article (considering a lot of their reporting is “get the story out first, ask questions later”). It is crazy how we may never get the full story but that’s nothing new.
