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Biffbarfwhy is it so hard to comprehend that a lady shouldn't wear____ to a _____ to play _____?
Good_Deedok yeah sure you do. im in a rural area too and never have seen someone walking with an ar15. Again if he wasnt playing good guy with a gun the attack wouldnt have happened. He put himself in that situation with a weapon and drew attention to himself by walking around with ar15. no way did he walk into that event thinking nah this should be cool people wont mind me walking around with this gun.
Good_Deedstop comparing what women wear to people walking around with a weapon designed to kill people at a fast and efficient rate. Its not the same at all.
Good_Deedstop comparing what women wear to people walking around with a weapon designed to kill people at a fast and efficient rate. Its not the same at all.
BiffbarfYou've never been on public land and seen people walking with an ar? That's actually really strange to me tbh.
Again if she wasn't wearing______ the attack wouldn't have happened. She put herself in that situation wearing ______ and drew attention to herself by walking around wearing ______. No way did she walk into that event thinkg nah this should be cool people won't mind me walking around wearing_______
**This post was edited on Nov 11th 2021 at 8:14:44pm
CLQSounds like Rittenhouse provoked this guy and then shot him. Did Rittenhouse drive out there to defend a trashcan?
Good_Deedstop trying to normalize walking around with a weapon. it is not normal it isnt healthy and it isnt safe.
A woman being a woman is not the same as walking around with a weapon of death fully loaded.
Biffbarfstop trying to normalize walking around wearing _______. it is not normal it isn't healthy and it isn't safe. A woman being a woman is not the same as walking around wearing______.
BiffbarfThe 'if he didn't have his ar15 nobody would've had a problem' argument is too similar to 'if she didn't dress provocatively she wouldn't have been ________' argument.
Good_Deedstop trying to normalize walking around wearing _ar15______. it is not
normal it isn't healthy and it isn't safe. A woman being a woman is not
the same as walking around wearing__ar15____.
Good_Deedstop trying to normalize walking around with a weapon. it is not normal it isnt healthy and it isnt safe.
A woman being a woman is not the same as walking around with a weapon of death fully loaded.
BiffbarfAh so if we just limit what women wear they won't be attacked. Gotcha.
Craw_DaddyIt's pretty normal dude. I ran into 11 people elk hunting a couple weekends ago. All armed, half with pistols on their hips and a few with msrs. It's not that uncommon in the west
Good_Deedwhen is the last time a tight red dress was part of a mass shooting?
BiffbarfI shoot my shot at every tight red dress I can find tbh
Good_Deedthanks for playing, couldn't handle logic so you turn to sub par humor. just sad really but not surprising.
**This post was edited on Nov 11th 2021 at 8:49:45pm
CLQSounds like Rittenhouse provoked this guy and then shot him. Did Rittenhouse drive out there to defend a trashcan?
r00kieIf having your arson put out is your definition of being provocted you may have to rethink some things. Also, no amount of provocation justifies threatening someone's life.
Film.All the people still in denial at this point are just coping that they were fooled by the media narrative again.
A good reminder why the court of public opinion means nothing.
Film.I have no idea what happened because I didn't see it happen therefore you don't engage. But I do see what you mean, this would more so be a question if the person who tried to shoot Kyle was successful and had received charges from it.
TOAST.I would think if Grosskreutz wanted to shoot him he would have fired shots? Once again I think the 1st person shot is pretty clearly self defense, but the other two seem like more of a grey area.
TOAST.I would think if Grosskreutz wanted to shoot him he would have fired shots? Once again I think the 1st person shot is pretty clearly self defense, but the other two seem like more of a grey area.
BiffbarfI thought it was funny tbh. I could keep going but I don't think you want to understand or validate my argument. How many times would you like me to repeat myself?
Monsieur_PatateYeah, and it's my first amendment right to show up to a BLM protest with a nazi flag.
So following your brilliant logic, if I get beat up, me and the women being raped because she was wearing a skirt on her way home are both equally responsible and/or neither of us are to blame for our respective situations escalating. Totally comparable.
Sure dude, great take, but now it's time to move on.
BiffbarfYou've never been on public land and seen people walking with an ar? That's actually really strange to me tbh.
Again if she wasn't wearing______ the attack wouldn't have happened. She put herself in that situation wearing ______ and drew attention to herself by walking around wearing ______. No way did she walk into that event thinkg nah this should be cool people won't mind me walking around wearing_______
**This post was edited on Nov 11th 2021 at 8:14:44pm
Film.Grosskreutz did want to shoot him but Rittenhouse turned his arm into Swiss cheese before he could.
https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1457774701673996298?s=20
Dustin.They were kicking the shit out of him and yelling things like "Get his ass" and "Kill him" before some dude pointed a gun at his face. Ya, I'm not waiting to see how this one plays out if I'm on the ground. You can say you would, but frankly you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
theabortionatorRough take whatever your agenda is. Damn
BiffbarfAll I want is for people to be able to disagree without violence.
BiffbarfThe 'if he didn't have his ar15 nobody would've had a problem' argument is too similar to 'if she didn't dress provocatively she wouldn't have been ________' argument.
theabortionatorDisagree whatever but why would you make that comparison?
I get that maybe you were just being dramatic to try and make a point but that's pretty cold. I don't see how somebody getting raped because they were dressed to go out has anything to do with somebody walking around with a rifle on their back encountering pushback. Btw this has nothing to do with anything that happened, you were generalizing. Regardless of his guilt in this situation I'm just saying that's not even apples to oranges, it's just a fucked thing to say.
Just weird to bring women getting raped in this. Not a good look.
theabortionatorDisagree whatever but why would you make that comparison?
I get that maybe you were just being dramatic to try and make a point but that's pretty cold. I don't see how somebody getting raped because they were dressed to go out has anything to do with somebody walking around with a rifle on their back encountering pushback. Btw this has nothing to do with anything that happened, you were generalizing. Regardless of his guilt in this situation I'm just saying that's not even apples to oranges, it's just a fucked thing to say.
Just weird to bring women getting raped in this. Not a good look.
BiffbarfA firearm is an inanimate object just like clothing. The inanimate object you possess doesn't justify being attacked. How you use that object, sure. But there doesn't seem to be evidence of this kid using the object in a manner in which was malicious prior to being attacked. see how that works?
50KalWalk into any of the following with a AR15: school, police station, fire station, or any restaurant.
See what happens retard.
50KalWalk into any of the following with a AR15: school, police station, fire station, or any restaurant.
See what happens retard.
Craw_DaddyIt's pretty normal dude. I ran into 11 people elk hunting a couple weekends ago. All armed, half with pistols on their hips and a few with msrs. It's not that uncommon in the west
BiffbarfIt was an example of victim blaming hiprocacy in a thread where without evidence dozens of people wished a kid death. It wasn't suppose to be a good look
Craw_DaddyThey're both examples of victim blaming. the kid was walking around putting out fires and trying to provide medical care. why does it matter that he had a rifle on his back in case he needed to defend himself? we have a right to bear arms in this country. and you're really going to try and characterize an unhinged arsonist attacking him and then subsequently a mob of people chasing him as "encountering pushback" they weren't trying to debate him bro...
BiffbarfThe first amendment is exactly designed such that you don't get to pick and choose what speech/assembly/expression is worthy of violent escalation. The precedent that a majority can choose what is worthy of violent escalation and what isn't is the exact tyranny the 1st amendment was written to avoid.
theabortionatorYeah. Both kinda seem like you don't really care if a woman gets raped. Just throw it in conveniently to back up your posts and beliefs on this. Going out looking decent and getting raped is the same as going to a protest open carrying a rifle and ending up in trouble. Again, I know how latched onto this you are, go with whatever. I'm just saying this is a pretty shitty thing to bring up to try and prove your point.
Great look guys.
Craw_DaddyHe could probably walk into a lot of restaurants and be okay. open carry is constitutionally protected and perfectly fine in a lot of places.
Monsieur_PatateNot debating the legality of it, of course he was able to bring a gun, and I have no problem with that. Some people are just saying he is an idiot for bringing the rifle to a violent protest in the first place.
Same as bringing a nazi flag to a BLM protest would be pretty dumb. Sure it's legal and it should stay that way, we agree on that. But that doesn't make it any less stupid and no one would feel sorry for the idiot who would get beat up in that scenario.
Comparing the two dumbfucks in the scenarios outlined above to a women getting raped on her way home because she wore a skirt is, as borty said, kind of a fucked up comparison to even make. Context and degrees matter, so I just think your take is bad.
As I've said before, you've made some good points in this thread, and in general from your posts on here you seem like a fairly intelligent dude, but I think you went a tad too far with this take, that's all and it's just my opinion, so it's ok if we just agree to disagree.
theabortionatorYeah. Both kinda seem like you don't really care if a woman gets raped.
Craw_DaddyJeez dude, seeing how easy it is for you to vilify us, it's no wonder you're able to vilify this kid for what he did. do you understand how crazy you sound when THIS is your takeaway from what I said?
50KalName me the bar where people just walk in with a AR15 and people are just chill with it.
Yes, people in the woods got guns, no shit.
But no civilians just strolls into restaurants, bars, grocery stores with AR15s with magazines in.
Yes, there is the occasional pistol purposely showing or Bowie knife, but no one’s strutting in bars with shotguns.
theabortionatorYeah. Both kinda seem like you don't really care if a woman gets raped. Just throw it in conveniently to back up your posts and beliefs on this. Going out looking decent and getting raped is the same as going to a protest open carrying a rifle and ending up in trouble. Again, I know how latched onto this you are, go with whatever. I'm just saying this is a pretty shitty thing to bring up to try and prove your point.
Great look guys.
theabortionatorBringing an AR into a restaurant is def not common or cool most places. Generally the cooler ones would tell you to put it in your car and the others would tell you to gtfo. I mean why would you even try to bring one in anyway? Seems like an asshole move from the start. I get it, everyone should have guns everywhere all the time but still? What reason would you try to bring an AR15 into a restaurant and not leave it into your car? Other than some weird flex?
I grew up and lived in a big hunting area for whitetail etc. The "Errbody should have guns everywhere at all times" people act like nobody else knows anything about guns or grew up with guns. But yeah, would be extremely douchey to bring an AR into a restaurant regardless of how you feel about rights. Most places would very rightly tell you to get fucked.
Dustin.Mentioning rape as an example of victim blaming doesn't correlate with a lack of empathy. You just have no good points to make about it and are resorting to being offended.
theabortionatorAgain, I specifically said it's not about this case but how fucked it is to bring this up to support your argument. I didn't vilify anything in that comment other than you bringing up a woman getting raped for no reason being the same as anything in this situation. I'll stand by that one.
Dustin.The reason is that it's the most famous example of victim blaming there is. You need to move on from this one, it's not about rape at all. The example just happens to involve rape. No one here thinks rape is cool, that's 100% not the point and this line of discussion is irrelevant.
Dustin.They do, they are just concealed. You've probably walked past a gun every time you've gone out. I agree that open carry is not a good idea at all considering how people react to them. Concealed carry is the best option.
