Armada Edollo

colorado_frenchyWhat's the popular opinion on the Edollo's?

I have the ARV 106 which I love, and I'm taking them to the park, but seing how I'm beating them up, I'm considering getting a dedicated park ski to preserve my ARVs and make sure I can hold an edge with them outside the park.

My initial plan was to ride the ARVs until they die, but seing the initial feedback on the updated 2021 ARV 106 make me consider this. (Stiffer and less park worthy from what I understood)

How do the Edollo and the old ARV 106 compare to each other? Should I get the Edollo? lol $$ 😱

Note 1: I read the excellent Roofbox review which touchbase with the ARVs already, just trying to get more opinions.

Note 2: I also put tons of miles on the Candide 2.0 before getting the ARV 106, if people who rode both 2.0 and Edollo can give a good comparaison too.

animatorThe 20/21 ARV really isn’t that different in terms of flex. It’s a little bit stiffer overall but that’s to add to the all mountain capabilities. Still a great ski and super fun all over including the park. @patagonialuke has more experience on it than I do, and he was talking about it in a previous thread. Had some good stuff to say, hopefully he can chime in!

OhJayNot to hijack and turn this into a Dolanreloaded thread, but has anyone skied Edollos or other skis w comp base and actually noticed any difference with the S7 base?

I was kinda let down by the durability of the S7 base on my 96ti.

animatorThe 20/21 ARV really isn’t that different in terms of flex.

patagonialukeI'm definitely not the best person here when it comes to dedicated park skis, but that's my .02 cents from brief experiences on the Edollo and regular ARVs. @Twig is your guy for advice on park skis

TwigI found them pretty significantly stiffer but bear in mind I am only 135-40lbs. I went in to detail on that in this thread. I still think they are a great ski, but they have gone too stiff for park the way I ski it.



Slow response here but I can see what Luke is saying with the tails. The 19/20 ARV and the Dollo are much of a muchness there for me. The ARV was stiffer but has a bit of rocker to help flex them, the Dollo is soft but has a full camber tail that you need to get your weight right over to flex. For me the older ARVs were the best of both worlds but the new one is just a bit much for me to ski in the park. If you love your current ARVs for all-mountain, you might well like the new ones for the same. If you're bigger than me, the flex change will make less difference in the park too. In which case, you may as well thrash the old ones, then replace.

If you're light or put a lot of importance on buttering, then I would suggest picking up a park ski to protect your old ARVs. The Dollo is a great option for a versatile park ski and it shares a lot of base DNA with the 106. It feels lighter than the CT2.0 and turns a bit more powerfully, but the tail is less buttery and the radius is longer, so they are less 'surfy' (the old 2.0, the new one is stiff AF). Another great option, IMO, is the Reckoner 102. Luke found them pretty soft, but for me, they are a perfect balance of flexy and stable. For me, they are one of the best skis I've skied in a long time.

colorado_frenchyThanks man that’s super helpful, I haven’t take a look at the Reckoner 102 so good idea. I was also eyeing a bit on the Revolt 104

TwigAnother great option, IMO, is the Reckoner 102. Luke found them pretty soft, but for me, they are a perfect balance of flexy and stable. For me, they are one of the best skis I've skied in a long time.

animatorRevolt 104 felt a lot like the 20/21 ARV 106 to me in terms of flex. @Twig i don’t think I felt the difference in flex between the 19/20 and 20/21 ARV 106 as much as you because I weigh 200 pounds, but I can definitely see where you’re coming from. Revolt 104 is a great looking ski and it’s really capable all over the mountain. If you want something softer and lighter though, the Reckoner 102 is a better fit. Depends on what you wanna prioritize

patagonialukeYeah I absolutely loved the Reckoner 102. It's definitely softer than most skis I end up spending time on, but for lack of a better word, the flex pattern just feels "right." It bends easily at the ends but it does so in such a predictable manner that I found myself skiing it way harder than I would've guessed. The flex, shape, rocker profile, and general construction just all feel like they work really well together (which, I guess, is how a good ski should be).

VT_scratchI just got a pair of 2020 edollos in the mail. Not mounted yet and never used, but they do feel a bit stiffer than I anticipated out of the box. I have nothing helpful to compare that flex to for you though haha.

Side note: anyone know what the minimum brake size is you can put on the edollos? 98 waisted. Will a 95mm tyrolia attack squeeze on there? next size up is 110 which seems overkill.

patagonialukeours has attacks and I'm like 90% sure they're 95 mm brakes, but I can double check later today or tomorrow.

patagonialukeYeah I absolutely loved the Reckoner 102. It's definitely softer than most skis I end up spending time on, but for lack of a better word, the flex pattern just feels "right." It bends easily at the ends but it does so in such a predictable manner that I found myself skiing it way harder than I would've guessed. The flex, shape, rocker profile, and general construction just all feel like they work really well together (which, I guess, is how a good ski should be).

colorado_frenchyI like the sounds of what I’m reading about the Reckoner 102 so far.

If I remember correctly K2 run a bit long (or accurate while most other brands measure before pressing?), and so I’m a bit unsure about the sizing for those between 177 and 184 (for 100% park use)
@patagonialuke you were on the 184 right?

patagonialukeyeah I was on the 184 and while they technically "measure long" vs. most other skis, their lower weight, soft-ish flex, and fairly deep rocker lines also kinda counteract that. What length were you on for the ARV 106 and did it feel particularly long or short to you?

VT_scratchthat would be awesome thanks. they do make a version with 100mm brakes but only on the attack11, and I want to go attack13 to be safe as I have never ridden these bindings.

colorado_frenchyI’m on the 180 and they feel just right

VT_scratchI just got a pair of 2020 edollos in the mail. Not mounted yet and never used, but they do feel a bit stiffer than I anticipated out of the box. I have nothing helpful to compare that flex to for you though haha.

Side note: anyone know what the minimum brake size is you can put on the edollos? 98 waisted. Will a 95mm tyrolia attack squeeze on there? next size up is 110 which seems overkill.

SofaKingSickDef use the 95 brake size and yes, good call not getting the attack 11s, they're constructed differently from the 13s

VT_scratchright on. I found some attack 13's new for $162 and pivot 12's new for $180... not sure what to do. I've had an old ass pair of pivots and know most people love them, but I think the attack's are a bit lighter.

fghtoffyrdmnsnobody talking about the durability issues with the sidewalls huh?

VT_scratchtell me more? all i read about is how theyre supposed to be one of armada's most durable skis?

VT_scratchtell me more? all i read about is how theyre supposed to be one of armada's most durable skis?

TwigThere were some issues with sidewall/edge delams on earlier models so maybe that (Al Dente/Early EDollos)? But since the ski was redesigned I haven't heard or seen anything.

fghtoffyrdmnsmy friend had brand new ones this year, total sidewall explosion in two months. the sidewall will warp, seperate, and eventually destroy the integrity of the ski. Seen it happen to every single pair of ARVs ive seen too...