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Widest ski width underfoot that is still very good on jumps?
drumbumocdpI’m sure people go way fatter, but I really like my arv106’s on big booters
Are you trolling me?
bc i bought the arv106 ti ltd2s last winter/spring and cant wait to try them out in the park. The 106 ti is essentially the same as the reg 106 from what ive read except its got titanium stringers and is a bit stiffer.
fucking viruses man. I cant wait to go skiing again
DolanReloadedAre you trolling me?
bc i bought the arv106 ti ltd2s last winter/spring and cant wait to try them out in the park. The 106 ti is essentially the same as the reg 106 from what ive read except its got titanium stringers and is a bit stiffer.
fucking viruses man. I cant wait to go skiing again
No Way, they’re my favorite skis. You can hike rails, hit jumps, cruise switch, shred pow... super hyped on the 106. Been thinking of getting a ti for all mountain
drumbumocdpNo Way, they’re my favorite skis. You can hike rails, hit jumps, cruise switch, shred pow... super hyped on the 106. Been thinking of getting a ti for all mountain
Nice. We are the brotherhood of the traveling arv 106
DolanReloadedAre you trolling me?
bc i bought the arv106 ti ltd2s last winter/spring and cant wait to try them out in the park. The 106 ti is essentially the same as the reg 106 from what ive read except its got titanium stringers and is a bit stiffer.
fucking viruses man. I cant wait to go skiing again
The Ti denotes an alloy called titanal, not titanium
I used to ski OG ARGs (135mm) in the park occaisonally... it was terrifying but it mostly worked on smaller jumps and days that weren't icy. My favorite park skis were old Jp vs. Juliens (103mm) and Blends (100mm). 100-110 feels like a sweet spot of stability, wieght, and fun in the park.
eheathEver heard of a snowboard dawg? A ski is never too wide to set a rotIt'
I see what you're saying, but it's a little different. On a snowboard you are just using one edge at a time instead of 2 edges, and the set and pop are different because of the sideways stance and your feet being connected to the same plank.
With that said, personal preference is still the main factor. I like fairly narrow skis for park because I find them more nimble, and it's easier to make minute adjustments on edge, but I know people who loved hitting park jumps on Hojis and Hellbents.
The thing you gotta realize is that big mountain or freeride skis are great on jumps regardless of width, they just aren't as good on rails, I mean look at the size of bc booters people hit that are on fat skis
eheathEver heard of a snowboard dawg? A ski is never too wide to set a rotation.
Good point but its easier to dorsiflex or plantarflex your ankle (forward or backward) than it is to pronate or supinate your ankle (side to side). If you strapped on two snowboards, one on each foot, like skis, i bet you would have a hard time digging in the edge on a jump.
maybe not idk. Youre probably right it just seems like if u actually had a snowboard on each foot you would be sliding all over the place
ChakaI used to ski OG ARGs (135mm) in the park occaisonally... it was terrifying but it mostly worked on smaller jumps and days that weren't icy. My favorite park skis were old Jp vs. Juliens (103mm) and Blends (100mm). 100-110 feels like a sweet spot of stability, wieght, and fun in the park.
By “days that werrent icy” are you implying that the 135mm args slid around too much on the ice?
DolanReloadedDamn. Didnt it feel hard to dig in your wdge to set a rotation? Could you take off switch without problems?
Yeah they were fine. Everyone these days is all hung up on weight but I never had a problem with 7s on pretty small/medium jumps and kfeds and 450s on lil rails as a 140lb 16 year old.
Mostly, they drifted a ton and were really clunky on hardpack, especially when going straight. Softer conditions would help stabilize them a bit for landings or coming off of lips on jumps. They were also incredibly slow so there was only so much you could do on them.
DolanReloadedBy “days that werrent icy” are you implying that the 135mm args slid around too much on the ice?
ChakaMostly, they drifted a ton and were really clunky on hardpack, especially when going straight. Softer conditions would help stabilize them a bit for landings or coming off of lips on jumps. They were also incredibly slow so there was only so much you could do on them.
I tried to ride my Donner Partys in the park a couple times, it was... interesting..
ChakaMostly, they drifted a ton and were really clunky on hardpack, especially when going straight. Softer conditions would help stabilize them a bit for landings or coming off of lips on jumps. They were also incredibly slow so there was only so much you could do on them.
oh. That is interesting. I would imagine a reverse sidecut ski would be shit in park because the easiest way to set a rotation is to dig in the parabola of a normal parabolic ski.
No, actual speed of the base. The first generation of ARGs had a famously sluggish base. They replaced it with one that was a little faster and added some sidewall in 08.
ChakaNo, actual speed of the base. The first generation of ARGs had a famously sluggish base. They replaced it with one that was a little faster and added some sidewall in 08.
ugh dude nothing worse than a shitty base on a premium pair of skis
eheathNobody cares about nerdy ski terminology, it makes you look like a gaper.
Dude being a park skier and not knowing what parabolic shaped skis are is like being an mlb baseball player and not knowing their baseball bats are made of wood.
DolanReloadedDude being a park skier and not knowing what parabolic shaped skis are is like being an mlb baseball player and not knowing their baseball bats are made of wood.
nice argument tho. Its cute.
Its not an argument, you sound like a gaper every time you post nerdy shit about skis, literally nobody who skis has ever cared about saying the word "parabolic" or "extruded"/
I have no problem setting a rotation whether it’s a narrow 90 or a midfat 120 , the wider width makes a great landing pad in pow tho, and soft tapered tips are real nice for butterin out under or over rotated spins, a wider ski also butters and slashes better for non set spins
steezboxDon't worry, all of NS knows more about sintered bases than they ever wanted because of you.
Good. I would only feel bad if there wasnt a single person here who found anything i posted about ski base science interestIng. If that was indeed the case then i apologize.
i think at least some ppl found the info cool tho...
DolanReloadedGood. I would only feel bad if there wasnt a single person here who found anything i posted about ski base science interestIng. If that was indeed the case then i apologize.
i think at least some ppl found the info cool tho...
Caused me to do my own research and look to see what my own bases are. TBH, can’t tell a difference in performance myself, and none of my skis are old enough or abused to chime in on base longevity , but I can tell when they need waxed.
DolanReloadedGood. I would only feel bad if there wasnt a single person here who found anything i posted about ski base science interestIng. If that was indeed the case then i apologize.
i think at least some ppl found the info cool tho...
I mean, I really can't ever imagine caring even near to how much you do about it, but you probably know gear way more than I do. But you really were pushing your base science like a religion so I'm just giving you shit haha. All good man. I just buy gear that feels good and use it until it doesn't feel good anymore.
On topic, I've been able to throw JJ zeros (118mm) around in the park on jumps and actually have fun. But I would never specifically take them on a park only day. Rails? No thanks.
DolanReloadedAre you trolling me?
bc i bought the arv106 ti ltd2s last winter/spring and cant wait to try them out in the park. The 106 ti is essentially the same as the reg 106 from what ive read except its got titanium stringers and is a bit stiffer.
fucking viruses man. I cant wait to go skiing again
Are you trolling us? Because you just made a thread expecting a serious answer to a really stupid fucking question.
steezboxI mean, I really can't ever imagine caring even near to how much you do about it, but you probably know gear way more than I do. But you really were pushing your base science like a religion so I'm just giving you shit haha. All good man. I just buy gear that feels good and use it until it doesn't feel good anymore.
On topic, I've been able to throw JJ zeros (118mm) around in the park on jumps and actually have fun. But I would never specifically take them on a park only day. Rails? No thanks.
Haha nice. Yeah i used to have ocd bad as a kid. Now im kind of over it but i still obsess about things especially if its about a product im buying.
How come you dont like the jj zeros on rails? I always felt the wider the ski the better it slid rails no?
that being said the widest ski ive ever done rails on was 98 underfoot i think
