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MiIfHunterppl can do whatever the fun they want
yungonasure they can but that doesnt save them from my epic criticism
MiIfHunterI’m sure they don’t give a rats ass
SavageBiffThat’s the problem. Too many entitled shitheads that don’t care about anyone but themselves.
SavageBiffThat’s the problem. Too many entitled shitheads that don’t care about anyone but themselves.
yungonaIt’s pretty discouraging to see that this is how people are acting. Places where people have worked hard to flatten the curve by actually following the rules have seen spikes and more outbreaks caused by negligence of these party-goers. Sure they are not the ones at risk of being hospitalized or dying from COVID, but they are putting many other people at risk.
yungonaIt’s pretty discouraging to see that this is how people are acting. Places where people have worked hard to flatten the curve by actually following the rules have seen spikes and more outbreaks caused by negligence of these party-goers. Sure they are not the ones at risk of being hospitalized or dying from COVID, but they are putting many other people at risk.
SavageBiffIt’s downright terrible, I hate to see anyone stripped, denied their freedoms , but some people are in effect inadvertently murdering others. Such a lack for respect of life, a lack of understanding due to ignorance and lack of compassion and empathy has forbid so many the understanding of how ones life is affected as those around them that they love die, and we’re left to mourn and live with the pain with no outer.
I see these doctors staying in hotels, won’t go see they’re kids, they say what I say, bows not the time , wait for a vaccine , they sacarifice so much then I see
-mask less “Karen’s “ at Walmart and and big buff screaming at a lil guy to get out of his face bc he doesn’t have to wear a mask he’s entitled
-the politics of mask vs no mask 🙄
SavageBiffIt’s downright terrible, I hate to see anyone stripped, denied their freedoms , but some people are in effect inadvertently murdering others. Such a lack for respect of life, a lack of understanding due to ignorance and lack of compassion and empathy has forbid so many the understanding of how ones life is affected as those around them that they love die, and we’re left to mourn and live with the pain with no outer.
I see these doctors staying in hotels, won’t go see they’re kids, they say what I say, bows not the time , wait for a vaccine , they sacarifice so much then I see
-mask less “Karen’s “ at Walmart and and big buff screaming at a lil guy to get out of his face bc he doesn’t have to wear a mask he’s entitled
-the politics of mask vs no mask 🙄
abar.The dumbest part is they're just extending how long their own freedoms are gonna be restricted
abar.The dumbest part is they're just extending how long their own freedoms are gonna be restricted
PeppermillRenoNot really.
People telling others what to do isn't going away they'll use zero cases to insist we keep masking up.
This has already done the rounds and gone through the places that are at risk nursing homes, minority communities who live in multi generational dwellings and work nursing home jobs, etc etc etc.
Its time to end the nonsense. Even all the nurses I know say its completely overblown and total fear mongering at this point.
The media and politicians are just trying to see how much control they actually have over people. Cause it'll be over before anyone can get the vaccine but that won't stop the hide at homers from demanding you get it to get on an airplane.
The selfish people are the ones wanting more lockdowns and restrictions.
PeppermillRenoNot really.
People telling others what to do isn't going away they'll use zero cases to insist we keep masking up.
This has already done the rounds and gone through the places that are at risk nursing homes, minority communities who live in multi generational dwellings and work nursing home jobs, etc etc etc.
Its time to end the nonsense. Even all the nurses I know say its completely overblown and total fear mongering at this point.
The media and politicians are just trying to see how much control they actually have over people. Cause it'll be over before anyone can get the vaccine but that won't stop the hide at homers from demanding you get it to get on an airplane.
The selfish people are the ones wanting more lockdowns and restrictions.
yungonaNot sure where you live but they enforce masks here. I’m not very fearful of the virus, but at the same time I’m going to do my part in preventing the spread. Saying that the virus has already done its round in populations that are at risk is pretty unintelligent to be honest. There are still people who are at large risk including my grandparents who are currently in a nursing home. Are you afraid of taking a vaccine? If so, why? It’s also pretty incredible how you are calling people who find partying during an epidemic selfish. There is literally no ground to stand on for partying right now. It is destroying the work of citizens who actually care.
vibecheckU should move your grandparents out of nursing home
Turd__AuthoritySad part is this isn't possible for many people for a variety of reasons.
TnskiThe worst part is tge resorts may not open fully or at all if this keeps escalating
PeppermillRenoNot really.
People telling others what to do isn't going away they'll use zero cases to insist we keep masking up.
This has already done the rounds and gone through the places that are at risk nursing homes, minority communities who live in multi generational dwellings and work nursing home jobs, etc etc etc.
Its time to end the nonsense. Even all the nurses I know say its completely overblown and total fear mongering at this point.
The media and politicians are just trying to see how much control they actually have over people. Cause it'll be over before anyone can get the vaccine but that won't stop the hide at homers from demanding you get it to get on an airplane.
The selfish people are the ones wanting more lockdowns and restrictions.
LonelyAh the good ol "If you don't want your grandma to die you are selfish"
Or your healthy 50-year-old professor.
**This post was edited on Aug 10th 2020 at 1:19:16am
vibecheckyeah you're right, really depressing to think about, I know in america its normal to put them away in nursing homes and + the gov doesnt do anything to help/ give benefits for taking care of them instead of them being in nursing homes
yungonaJust wanted to say that we didn’t “put my grandparents away”. They were in their house until their 90s with a helper and family members around. After a lot of discussion our family came to the conclusion that a home would be better for them because of their health issues, the danger of accidents happening at home, the cost, the availability of activities, and the socialization of a nursing home. We kept them in their original home as long as we feasibly and safely could.
yungonaJust wanted to say that we didn’t “put my grandparents away”. They were in their house until their 90s with a helper and family members around. After a lot of discussion our family came to the conclusion that a home would be better for them because of their health issues, the danger of accidents happening at home, the cost, the availability of activities, and the socialization of a nursing home. We kept them in their original home as long as we feasibly and safely could.
DIRTYBUBBLEoh look another self righteous introvert. Lockdown and “flatten the curve” were meant as a temporary emergency measure so excess deaths didn’t occur AS A RESULT of hospital overcrowding. The narrative shift to “no one should ever die from COVID ever” is just unrealistic. Do you seriously expect everyone to put their lives on hold indefinitely over a disease that 99% of people survive? Selfishness shouldn’t even be a part of the discussion. It’s nothing more than an ad-hominen attack used to gain the moral high ground. It’s selfish to expect society to tip toe around you. Are we supposed to just shut away until a vaccine comes out? Do you know how long that could take (to develop, mass produce, and distribute)? Do you know that a vaccine could potentially fail? A vaccine could potentially NEVER be made available. This sensationalized media virus is ridiculous. “b-but 150,000 are dead”. Nearly 8,000 people die in the US every DAY during a normal year. The average age of a person who dies from COVID is 78. Branding everyone who isn’t a virtue signaling hyper liberal as stupid or selfish isn’t going to help your cause.
Youngm_IPCMEWhen 9/11 happened, did you go around saying "it was only one city block and 3000 people, 8000 died today"?
DIRTYBUBBLEDon’t get me wrong I’m not anti-mask and I think Trump did a horrible job handling it but I just think we should rip the bandaid off of this thing and get it over with like we have done for thousands of years rather than literally lengthen the amount of time through lockdowns. There are legitimate arguments to be made for reopening and reeintegrating. The second order effects of lockdowns are going to eventually outweigh any lockdown positives. This issue affects all of society and saying that epidemiologists should call all the shots is short sighted. Dr. Fauci even said himself in response to Rand Paul that he (Fauci) never said that he should have the final say. Also: LOOK AT SWEDEN. No lockdown. No second wave. No overcrowded hospital deaths. Not saying that we can implement it everywhere, but they aren’t regarded as a dumb fucking country. We cannot do this forever. The burden of proof is upon you to justify a continued lockdown.
SavageBiffYour thinking says you have the right to infect me, that implies I have the right to defend myself and snap your fucking neck.
Bushdid9_11does it make me a bad person if I'm kinda waiting for this to be argued in court?
DIRTYBUBBLEDon’t get me wrong I’m not anti-mask and I think Trump did a horrible job handling it but I just think we should rip the bandaid off of this thing and get it over with like we have done for thousands of years rather than literally lengthen the amount of time through lockdowns. There are legitimate arguments to be made for reopening and reeintegrating. The second order effects of lockdowns are going to eventually outweigh any lockdown positives. This issue affects all of society and saying that epidemiologists should call all the shots is short sighted. Dr. Fauci even said himself in response to Rand Paul that he (Fauci) never said that he should have the final say. Also: LOOK AT SWEDEN. No lockdown. No second wave. No overcrowded hospital deaths. Not saying that we can implement it everywhere, but they aren’t regarded as a dumb fucking country. We cannot do this forever. The burden of proof is upon you to justify a continued lockdown.
.MASSHOLE.For fucks sake.
You can say "let's open the economy" but over 70% of the country, according to both Gallup and Pew Polls, would rather wait till things get better before attempting to return to "normal". So unless 25% of the country can cover the economic output of the other 75%, your hope for reopening and reintegrating couldn't matter less because people won't/aren't willing to do that.
Here's the Pew Poll- https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/08/06/most-americans-say-state-governments-have-lifted-covid-19-restrictions-too-quickly/
Here's the Gallup Poll- https://news.gallup.com/poll/308222/coronavirus-pandemic.aspx
To think that the epidemiologists are the only ones examining this situation and advising politicians is naive. The vast majority of economists (WH-affiliated ones excluded) are pointing to all sorts of data supporting the belief that reopening the economy isn't going to magically make things better, polls above included. People want to feel safe. That's not possible right now. No matter what you (and others advocating for a return to normalcy) feel, 70%+ of the country doesn't feel the same way.
Stop pointing to Sweden. Sweden, demographically and geographically, is VERY different than the US. They're younger, live in less densely populated areas, and frankly have actually listened and obeyed the restrictions that have been put in place. The US on the other hand, is older, has more densely populated urban areas, and doesn't listen to restrictions. Lets not forget that the Swedes also have universal healthcare, meaning that if they do get sick, they won't be stuck with a massive bill like many Americans would be.
The Swedish methodology wasn't an attempt to save the economy either. Economic data suggests that their economic output will be right around their Scandi neighbors, or ~ -5%. It is not like they're going back to the office either. The office levels are still -61% relative to pre-COVID numbers. It was an attempt to mitigate the damage, and it may or may not have worked. Given that their economic #s are similar to their neighbors, one could argue it didn't. On the other hand, if you were to poll the happiness levels of each country, you may find Sweden to have come out on top. Who knows, we won't know for a bit of time. I'm sure there are studies going on now. Social scientists are going to have a lot of work in the coming years examining this period.
DIRTYBUBBLEDon’t get me wrong I’m not anti-mask and I think Trump did a horrible job handling it but I just think we should rip the bandaid off of this thing and get it over with like we have done for thousands of years rather than literally lengthen the amount of time through lockdowns. There are legitimate arguments to be made for reopening and reeintegrating. The second order effects of lockdowns are going to eventually outweigh any lockdown positives. This issue affects all of society and saying that epidemiologists should call all the shots is short sighted. Dr. Fauci even said himself in response to Rand Paul that he (Fauci) never said that he should have the final say. Also: LOOK AT SWEDEN. No lockdown. No second wave. No overcrowded hospital deaths. Not saying that we can implement it everywhere, but they aren’t regarded as a dumb fucking country. We cannot do this forever. The burden of proof is upon you to justify a continued lockdown.
SavageBiffAnd what if it’s everyone you love that end up being the scans torn away by this metaphorical bandaid tearing
The govt is handing out massive amounts of $, too much imo, so that we can stay safe and combat this intelligently. Some businesses may be struggling, but the people are eating, they have roofs over their heads and we’re trying to save those we love and stop people we don’t know from losing those they love not to mention if it gets much more out of control it will lead to severely increased mass spread, mass death and severe economical collapse far beyond where were at now and when the govt can’t help you, and there are no jobs how will you survive then? If the USAloses control, no one will step in and save us, it’s the USA that sticks their noses in everyone’s business, no one will help us.
I think we should divide the us, all us reasonable can have the upper 48, the rest of you COVID spreading partying dipshits can have Texas and Florida were you belong.
DIRTYBUBBLEHoly fuck you are acting like this is the plague. It’s really not. 99% of people survive COVID. Most people get it and either have mild symptoms or are asymptomatic. It’s not unreasonable to say that it doesn’t merit this level of hysteria.
SavageBiffI’m certainly gonna act like anything that has the potential to kill my wife or kids or parents like it’s the plague.They are my life, my treasures and my love, id kill for them and I’d die for them. It/I would be very different if there was a dna like test that said I have this % chance... right now we don’t know who it will rob of life and not. We also don’t know about it’s everlasting effects. I’m not dumb enough to find out the hard way, nor would I wish for anyone to find out the hard way. We have a buffoon for a president and a massive amount of stupid sheeple who follow the stupid shit he says simply bc they themselves are so stupid they need a leader to follow and tell them what to do bc theybcant think for themselves and when they do they say things like your previous two posts.
You never answered the ? , what if it whipes out everyone you love? You sure they’re part of the %99 that would survive? Bet they’d be proud to know you care for them so much 🙄
I’m truly baffled by how greed, politics, and this entitled right to freedom outweighs public Heath in your mind and you seem to completely dis regard the tragedy of loss people are experiencing that could be avoided.
Friend of mine recently lost his father, man was 51, died of a heart attack, while he had COVID, otherwise healthy, skier dad of 3 Jerry’s under 16
Children are dying, they aren’t experiencing life or what you and I have and their parents are left to mourn forever, but I guess that’s ok since the numbers are low and sometimes kids die anyways right? Seems in line with your thinking.
im not saying don’t open the economy, I say do it, compassionately, appropriately and intelligently, not grumpy and derpy. Provide for those who can’t while we figure this out, and do everything you can to help or at least not be a problem. I’m saying don’t party, don’t be ignorant, be aware of the effects your actions have on others. Anyone who can’t see this is a moron, a dangerous moron.
MiIfHunterChinese flu
DIRTYBUBBLESpare me the emotional pandering. I’m more likely to die in a car accident versus COVID and so are most of my loved ones. I’m baffled that you think that COVID deaths are avoidable. It’s a pandemic. People are going to die. Average age of a COVID death is 78. We’re “saving” the lives of people who probably would have died this year anyway. The cure is worse than the disease. We just need to get this shit over with. If you’re so consumed with fear then YOU stay home. Stop forcing everyone else to. You’re the selfish one here.
DIRTYBUBBLEHoly fuck you are acting like this is the plague. It’s really not. 99% of people survive COVID. Most people get it and either have mild symptoms or are asymptomatic. It’s not unreasonable to say that it doesn’t merit this level of hysteria.
DIRTYBUBBLESpare me the emotional pandering. I’m more likely to die in a car accident versus COVID and so are most of my loved ones. I’m baffled that you think that COVID deaths are avoidable. It’s a pandemic. People are going to die. Average age of a COVID death is 78. We’re “saving” the lives of people who probably would have died this year anyway. The cure is worse than the disease. We just need to get this shit over with. If you’re so consumed with fear then YOU stay home. Stop forcing everyone else to. You’re the selfish one here.
AaronO.Bro people know that it’s not 100% avoidable it’s just if mf’s would do the least and follow the simple recommendations and have some compassion we wouldn’t be getting hit nearly as hard as we are. Why do people need to keep acting like this is some scheme or oppression tactic and actively argue against it.
just wear a mask and keep your distance from people why is that so difficult? People can’t “sacrifice” a few months of their life to help slow the spread? I never get into arguments with randos on the internet but I’m actually starting to lose my shit with people
SavageBiffYa know what your right.
your more entitled to party than a 78 year old is to another year of life.
your such a pos
DIRTYBUBBLE“lol just put your life on hold indefinitely bro”