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dogfartstaintWhile I haven't tried to bend pivot brakes before, the risk seems to outweigh the reward here. IMHO it'd probably be easier to just resell the 95s and get 115s. Even if it does work your resell value is just going to drop and you still have the potential of breaking them more easily.
**This post was edited on Aug 1st 2020 at 12:52:44am
ParkRxif you are going to bend them use a long pipe. Put the brake in the end of the pipe and you’ll get way more torque
leprechaunsissyIf the break snaps.........the bindings still work.
.nastyJust run it. I put 95mm brakes on both an ARV 106 and Volkl 100eight just fine. At first the plastic can catch the edge of the skis but it eventually shaves itself down, or just sand it down a bit yourself if you don't want to wait.
I don't usually use a 115mm brake until the ski is 110mm underfoot, seems extreme but pivot brakes don't go much inward once engaged like other binding brakes do, they only go up.
animatorSo for a Kartel 108 you would run a 95? Just got a pair and I’ve been debating whether to go 95 or 115
.nastyI mean a lot of people will probably tell you no, but I've never had an issue, even when ejecting and needing them to pop down properly. I've also done it for plenty of customers with their consent (since it could technically be a liability issue) and have never had anyone coming back to tell me anything negative. The 115 brake really isn't bad on a 108 waisted ski but as I said before, they don't go inward when engaging them so I still had a few issues personally with the 115 on a sub 110 waisted ski.
animatorInteresting to hear someone else’s point of view, I had a 95 brake on a CT 2.0 and even at 102mm underfoot the skis didn’t really stay together too well because the brakes don’t like match up if that makes sense when the skis are base to base
BLandzBelieve me man ive had pivots for like 3 seasons now and if you don’t break em yourself I guarantee your first switch eject of the season those things are gonna be bent to shit
.nastyJust run it. I put 95mm brakes on both an ARV 106 and Volkl 100eight just fine. At first the plastic can catch the edge of the skis but it eventually shaves itself down, or just sand it down a bit yourself if you don't want to wait.
I don't usually use a 115mm brake until the ski is 110mm underfoot, seems extreme but pivot brakes don't go much inward once engaged like other binding brakes do, they only go up.
animatorInteresting to hear someone else’s point of view, I had a 95 brake on a CT 2.0 and even at 102mm underfoot the skis didn’t really stay together too well because the brakes don’t like match up if that makes sense when the skis are base to base
.nastyDefinitely makes sense, although I can't say that fact alone would deter me. In the end, it probably isn't 100% effective to go narrower but I know for me just having the brakes out the way is the main thing and a little compromise doesn't bother me.
animatorSo for a Kartel 108 you would run a 95? Just got a pair and I’ve been debating whether to go 95 or 115
Paul.I have 95s on my Jeffrey 108s. Bent them out a little bit using my hands and they work just fine
BLandzBelieve me man ive had pivots for like 3 seasons now and if you don’t break em yourself I guarantee your first switch eject of the season those things are gonna be bent to shit
soupNot sure what any of these people are talking about. Ive been rocking pivots for 15 years and bent about 75% of the bindings to fit pow skis. Get them installed by a shop so that the brakes lay flat on the skis (shop guys will give you shit but just take their petty little abuse and ask with confidence), take them home, take an old ski poles and bend them out 90°, and then straight down.
Hit me up if you have any questions or concerns I'm happy to help.
animatorWait bend them out so they’re like perpendicular to the ski? Like sticking straight out and then down?