Thoughts on Eileen Gu getting a pro model before Kelly Sildaru?

pinkcamo1000She skis for China in international competitions and the Chinese ski market is expanding super quick, Faction will for sure sell a shitload of these. I also agree that Kelly is more deserving but this makes perfect sense from Faction's standpoint

pinkcamo1000She skis for China in international competitions and the Chinese ski market is expanding super quick, Faction will for sure sell a shitload of these. I also agree that Kelly is more deserving but this makes perfect sense from Faction's standpoint

localsonvolklsIdk but I should have slid in her DMs when I lived in SF

DesertStixTotally makes sense from a business perspective but imagine having to sit down Kelly, Mathilde, and Sarah Hoefflin to break the news that faction is about to stop a women’s pro model that isn’t one of theirs

*drop not stop lol

**This post was edited on Jul 11th 2020 at 8:31:06pm

coronashe's 15...

animatorSeems like it’s just a prodigy with a different top sheet. Who’s to say the other women on the team don’t have one too and just haven’t released it yet?

armchair_skierI’m def getting flamed for this but I have no idea who either of those people are

OCoffeyDo ya live under a rock?

OCoffeyDo ya live under a rock?

armchair_skierI don’t watch women’s comp skiing.

Young_pattyNo dubs/dunks

Young_pattyHuge vibe, it’s literally just the WNBA if snowsports. No dubs/dunks, barely viewed and pulls in hardly any money, if Kelly does ever get a pro mode I’d hope they call it “the 900’s” cause that’s really all she got

SofaKingSicki'm not gonna try to tell you that you need to watch and be entertained by women's skiing but this is just really untrue. watch x games big air from this year, they threw some wild shit honestly

Young_pattyTo be fair I’ve seen a number of woman’s events and I even made it through a 1/3 of Factions chick flick. Imma stop before I dig myself a misogyny hole but at the end of the day why would you want to watch sub par skiing?

Young_pattyHuge vibe, it’s literally just the WNBA if snowsports. No dubs/dunks, barely viewed and pulls in hardly any money, if Kelly does ever get a pro mode I’d hope they call it “the 900’s” cause that’s really all she got

pinkcamo1000idk man people will get mad hype on some up and comer dude skier putting out a park edit or a chill urban movie with smaller features, but for some reason every woman has to be doing the most insane shit possible to get any recognition.

For example, people will hate on a dude doing dubs in the street because it's "comp style" but then turn around and say that women's skiing is lame because they don't do enough dubs or huge spins. So it seems to me that a lot of the time women's skiing is just held to a different standard. Not necessarily a higher standard, just different. I think the best thing to do is instead of constantly comparing it to men's skiing, just take the skiing for what it is.

Titus69only thing to criticize kelly for is she isn’t doing doubles like a good amount of girls are, that are on the faction team too.

Young_pattyIf you say so dude, it’s all opinion so I’m not gonna heat over it but IMO watching women’s comp skiing just ain’t hype for me, I’d rather watch men’s events because the caliber of skiing is just at a much higher level. Sorry. I’m not saying I won’t tune in for a Taylor Lundquist or Tatum edit cause there are some girls puttin down clips but comp wise I could care less about Kelly Silderu doing the same 900’s she’s done at every X-games or watching small 540’s in a super pipe Event.

Young_pattyIf you say so dude, it’s all opinion so I’m not gonna heat over it but IMO watching women’s comp skiing just ain’t hype for me, I’d rather watch men’s events because the caliber of skiing is just at a much higher level. Sorry. I’m not saying I won’t tune in for a Taylor Lundquist or Tatum edit cause there are some girls puttin down clips but comp wise I could care less about Kelly Silderu doing the same 900’s she’s done at every X-games or watching small 540’s in a super pipe Event.

Couldn’t have said it better, that’s why she doesn’t need a faction pro model

pinkcamo1000I agree, I do not give a shit about Kelly doing the same 900s we've seen a bunch of times or small 540s in a super pipe. But that's cause I've seen that stuff done by them before, and men's comp skiing is just as repetitive, if not more. I don't watch men's or women's comp skiing because they're both super repetitive and boring, but that's just the way comp skiing has always been.

Basically you're proving my point that men's and women's skiing are held to different standards. It's ok for men to do the same canned triple every run, but if Kelly Sildaru does too many 900s it means all women's comp events are wack.

Titus69Yeah but she’s also been pushing her skiing hard since she was 7, basically one of the faces of women’s free skiing IMO, so many girl pros older than her have been seen showing so much respect for her at comps instead of being mad a girl 6 years younger kicked their ass without a double in her run (cause she can actually ski rails). Not defending her saying she absolutely needs a pro model but it’s funny that she’s done so much for girls skiing and has been on faction for years then suddenly this young hotshot with maybe half of the accolades Kelly’s has who’s already cashing out from her China deal deserves one not long after signing to faction.

Young_pattyComp skiing has definitely been a drag to watch in the past but with all the new formats (few tour mixed format and X-games knuckle Huck to name a couple) have been making me tune back in, -games Norway men’s knuckle Huck was actually super fun to watch and the roster was a refreshing mix of skiers. Also you’re dancing around the ball, “different standards” just means “we hold women skiers to lower standards” because yes a canned triple is just as boring to watch as stock 900’s but objectively speaking that canned triple is on a muuuuch higher level of skiing.


I agree with you her rail game is better than many of her competitors (but I’m a bit out of the women’s comp scene so I could be wrong) but honestly I think faction did it just because she’s a better skier, she might be newer to the scene and have only half the accolades as Kelly but you said it yourself she just shreds harder and will probably make it easier for faction to sell her pro models and make money, which is the goal of every ski company. Kelly definitely has a huge image and reputation in the women’s comp scene but faction might be looking at just skill sets to deciding who will sell more skis for them over time.

Titus69I don’t think she’s done anything out of the ordinary except be 15 and pretty good. Funny thought, when the olympics come around and she’s repping China with her pro model factions, sales over there are gonna boom cause she’s already a celebrity.

Young_pattyOh shit, dude they put her on cause she was young and good but that’s more or less the same reason they put Silderu on. You’re definitely right too about her posting up at the olympics with her faction pro models too, the exposure would be huge for faction and it would probably let em dip into the Chinese ski market even more. I think they’re definitely tryna crank out a Silderu 2.0 for sure

armchair_skierFinally someone gets it. The reason ski brands pay people to use their skis is because it’s advertising. “Pro models” are just an extension of this idea.

Young_pattyComp skiing has definitely been a drag to watch in the past but with all the new formats (few tour mixed format and X-games knuckle Huck to name a couple) have been making me tune back in, -games Norway men’s knuckle Huck was actually super fun to watch and the roster was a refreshing mix of skiers. Also you’re dancing around the ball, “different standards” just means “we hold women skiers to lower standards” because yes a canned triple is just as boring to watch as stock 900’s but objectively speaking that canned triple is on a muuuuch higher level of skiing.

coronashe's 15...

tdolloshe actually 18... ;)

tdolloshe actually 18... ;)

pinkcamo1000did they even have knuckle huck for the ladies? And yes, in competition skiing women are generally held to a lower standard. But I think that in some ways in other areas of skiing women are actually held to a higher standard. Like in my example before, a dude can put out a chill edit with low consequence features/tricks and people will be like "so chill, very relatable" etc. Whereas when girls put out content it's always "I COULD DO THESE TRICKS SHE'S NOT EVEN GOOD, I WILL GET A SEX CHANGE SO I CAN BE SPONSORED TOO LMAO XD" In one instance the lower consequence skiing is just appreciated for what it is, whereas in the other it's just compared to men's skiing. See what I'm saying?

Young_pattyHonestly, I doubt most people would tune in for women’s Kunckle huck and I doubt many even tuned in for men’s so no shocker that there isn’t one. Kinda grasping for straws saying dudes who put out shit edits still get applauded, most men that suck aren’t putting out pro parts (except Vishnu obviously) so comparing them to pro women segments is once again simply holding them to lower standards. The standard are clearly just lower comp scene or not no matter what way you want to spin it and that’s why there Isn’t as much interest in it I’d imagine.

SoggyOatmeal420Okay but since we are on the topic of faction pro models, why does Alex Hall have one yet