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Punk vs. Rap - Who Does Anti-Establishment Better?

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Bdoobz
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This is not meant to be an argument, just a discussion.
Jun 5 2020 11:23AM
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eheath
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Hip-hop, no question.
Jun 5 2020 11:40AM
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Casey
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I think punk rock was more anti establishment in live shows. If you listen to like Henry Rollins for example it’s like half the crowd would show because they hated him they would like get in fights on stage and shit. But nothing has the power to outrage millions of conservative white people like some hip hop lyrics, so I have to say hip hop.
Jun 5 2020 12:04PM
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270on420out
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Would you prefer an apple or how about an orange?
Jun 5 2020 12:11PM
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Bended_Toenail
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Punk wants to be the most anti-establishment, whereas hip hop is truly anti-establishment with minimal effort
Jun 5 2020 12:13PM
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oldmanski
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Both definitely have their anti-establishment grounds but I would say hip hop leads by 176 cm
Jun 5 2020 12:19PM
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ChangeCashMoney
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Hip-Hop/Rap by at least a couple of miles.
Jun 5 2020 12:28PM
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Monsieur_Patate
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Not sure who does it better, but this thread needs some relevant materials:

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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/747099/Rage-Against-The-Machine---Killing-In-The-Name

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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965831/Rage-Against-The-Machine---Guerrilla-Radio--Audio-


Public EnnemyMost of my heroes don't appear on no stamps
Sample a look back you look and find
Nothing but rednecks for four hundred years if you check


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965832/Public-Enemy---Fight-The-Power
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965833/nwa-fuck-the-police-hq

Green DayWell maybe I'm the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody do the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965834/Green-Day---American-Idiot--OFFICIAL-VIDEO-

The ClashIf Adolf Hitler flew in today
They'd send a limousine anyway


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965835/The-Clash--White-Man--in-Hammersmith-Palais

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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965836/2Pac---Changes--Official-Music-Video--ft--Talent

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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965837/Nas---Untitled
Jun 5 2020 12:36PM
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Simkiwinki
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Rage against the machine and Body Count come to my mind if I think about anti establishment

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965842/Body-Count---Cop-Killer
Jun 5 2020 1:49PM
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SuspiciousFish
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Gonna pull the ace card for Hip Hop:


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965843/The-Point-of-No-Return---Immortal-Technique
Other notable mentions:


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965844/Opening-Salvo


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965845/Us

**This post was edited on Jun 5th 2020 at 2:01:48pm
Jun 5 2020 1:56PM
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Casey
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Some more offensive content for hell of it.


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965846/Uncle-Sam-Goddamn---Brother-Alihttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965847/Immortal-Technique---Bin-laden-Lyricshttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965846/Uncle-Sam-Goddamn---Brother-Alihttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965848/JAY-Z---The-Story-of-O-J-https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965846/Uncle-Sam-Goddamn---Brother-Alihttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965849/Blue-Scholars--50-Thousand-Deephttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965846/Uncle-Sam-Goddamn---Brother-Alihttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965850/Sunday-Valley--Sturgill-Simpson----Folded-Flaghttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965846/Uncle-Sam-Goddamn---Brother-Alihttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965851/PennyWise-Fuck-Authorityhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965846/Uncle-Sam-Goddamn---Brother-Ali
Jun 5 2020 2:11PM
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Casey
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I didn’t mean to post the Ali song 5 times, it’s all messed up in the edit screen so I can’t fix it, sry.
Jun 5 2020 2:20PM
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MiIfHunter
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Punk by far. Rap is full of fruit cakes and pretty boys that are FAKE AF
Jun 5 2020 2:20PM
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SuspiciousFish
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Throwing down some more for HipHop:


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965852/Dead-Prez---Propaganda

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965853/Damian--Jr--Gong--Marley---Welcome-To-Jamrock--Official-Video-
Reggae is the OG rebel music:


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965854/Bob-Marley---I-Shot-The-Sheriff

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965855/Steel-Pulse---There-Must-Be-A-Way

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965856/Groundation---The-Seventh-Seal

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965857/THIRD-WORLD---96-DEGREES-IN-THE-SHADE

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965858/Peter-Tosh---Equal-Rights
Jun 5 2020 2:26PM
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SuspiciousFish
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CaseyI didn’t mean to post the Ali song 5 times, it’s all messed up in the edit screen so I can’t fix it, sry.


Your good man, nice slice of hip hop. Props for knowing Blue Scholars as well, best of Seattle Hip Hop right there.
Jun 5 2020 2:28PM
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Bdoobz
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Will check out the tunes posted. I mostly listen to punk (Crass, Subhumans, Bad Religion) so am unaware of a lot of the hip-hop stuff. They both seem very politically driven, thought it would be an interesting comparison.
Jun 5 2020 3:38PM
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GrandThings
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Lol have people even fucking heard of GG Allin?
Jun 5 2020 4:09PM
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theabortionator
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Punk all the way. And I love hip hop
Jun 5 2020 6:49PM
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