mystery3What subie?
Why do you want touring tires? Are you old?
Lol what? I drive a legacy and as I said live in Columbus where we get maybe 12" of snow all year and rains a fuck ton so getting dedicated winter tires is pointless and I don't have the cash for that either. Even if I lived in NE Ohio still I wouldn't get winter tires.
The tires I listed happen to be some of the best non-winter tires for snow with good treadlife which is important since I make a lot of trips through snow storms each year and drive about 20k miles a year. Grand touring tires tend to perform better in snow than the ultra high performance and high performance tires. My current tires are just a basic high performance tire that came with the car. They're noticeably weird in anything deeper than a dusting and sometimes hard to predict; they're great in the rain though. All 3 of the above tires are twice as good in snow as my current ones and similar if not better in wet and dry tests.
If you can't tell, snow is a big factor but also rain. I ended up going with the yokohama tires (firestone a close second) because they still performed twice as good as my current tires in snow stopping tests and were best in class for dry and wet driving which is the majority of what I do. I don't need snow tires and can handle anything that's on a roadway unless it's too deep that my car starts floating. IMHO winter driving is all about how you drive. Obviously snow and studded snow tires will allow you to accelerate, turn, and stop more aggressively, but I haven't encountered a situation yet where I have NEEDED snow tires. So unless 5ft drops and they don't plow, I'll be good with GT tires. Even out west with shitty economy rental tires I've been fine in the snow.
So why does this make me old lol?
Edit: I based a majority of my decisions on tire rack tests because while reviews are helpful, these are the most comprehensive reviews with some objective stats that I could find. The yokohama were also about $100 cheaper and in my personal experience on my current tires, the tread lasts forever. Only reason I'm getting new ones is because they've got a broken belt or two and are starting to wear unevenly; was gonna upgrade anyway this fall bacause of their shit snow performance. Otherwise I somehow have 75% of my tread remaining after 65k miles. No fucking clue how.
**This post was edited on Jun 5th 2020 at 2:01:34am