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LonelyI was thinking this same thing...people in here are using this chart to prove the lack of understanding of statistics in others. The key thing they leave out is that 70% of the population is white and the rest are minorities, causing the large skew that we see in that graph..
ScaredwhiteboyOh my god you're so dumb. The difference in population size does not change the fact that blacks kill way more whites than vice-versa. More of one group means they should both be more likely to commit crimes *and* more likely to be victims of crimes. The net effect of the population difference on the expected crime rates is zero.
LonelyPopulation size, and the difference in population sizes is the one of the most core ideas of statistics. Stick to being a constitution hating commie
LonelyHere's a question I want to pose- In the past, some of the largest changes in society and policy in the U.S. have been a result of violence. At what point is it necessary for a physical response (not looting) to prevent further injustice and infringement of rights in the united states. Where is the line drawn?
If the past 10 years have shown anything its that protests and voting do not create the wanted results. Billionaires still don't pay taxes, cops still act like an occupying military, and more and more of our freedoms get taken away every year. With the average U.S. citizen paying the price. As someone who has seen first hand what a physical response to someone believing their rights are infringed upon looks like I am doing everything BUT advocating for it.
Just interested to hear what our weird little community thinks
r00kieI think the line is when the upward mobility of a group of people is supressed. One thing that makes this country great is that in theory anyone can make anything out of themselves. This is the great strength of free market economics. One of the main roles of governmwnt should be to protect anyones about to grow whether is be economically, socially, or anything else. Once that ability is lost there is no hope. Kids born poor remain poor, creating generational poverty. Class systems suck, especially if impossed by the government.
LonelyInteresting take that I haven't heard before.
How close do you think we are to that point?
**This post was edited on Jun 1st 2020 at 11:28:01pm
r00kiePeacefully protest, stand alongside those whi are affected by prejudice, make your voice heard. Better yet, have some real life conversations with people about the issue instead of trolling the internet. But rioting only incentivizes violence from law enforcement and creates more division.
CLQI'm fine peacefully protesting but when you get jabbed in the stomach for it and then hit with a baton while running away, I will not be peaceful any longer. The fact that they were also press and not protestors, infuriates me even more. Would you get punched in the stomach and just take it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guvaxe/police_attack_protestors_and_press_in_washington/
r00kieI think the line is when the upward mobility of a group of people is supressed. One thing that makes this country great is that in theory anyone can make anything out of themselves. This is the great strength of free market economics. One of the main roles of governmwnt should be to protect anyones about to grow whether is be economically, socially, or anything else. Once that ability is lost there is no hope. Kids born poor remain poor, creating generational poverty. Class systems suck, especially if impossed by the government.
CLQI'm fine peacefully protesting but when you get jabbed in the stomach for it and then hit with a baton while running away, I will not be peaceful any longer. The fact that they were also press and not protestors, infuriates me even more. Would you get punched in the stomach and just take it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guvaxe/police_attack_protestors_and_press_in_washington/
ScaredwhiteboyKids born poor remain poor because they inherited bad traits from their poor parents. Why would you expect the offspring of a poor person to be equally likely to succeed as the offspring of a wealthy person? Usually, that wealthy person acquired wealth because they were intelligent or gifted in some other way. If true, you'd then expect their offspring would be more likely to succeed as well because they inherit the same traits that made their parents successful. Intelligence, charisma, work ethic, strength, speed, looks, etc. All these things factor into how successful you are in life, and they're all to some extent inherited genetically from your ancestors.
We already have a socialist education system in the United States. Any kid can get a full k-12 education regardless of their parents' income. There is no societal barrier preventing poor kids from succeeding in life. Any kid can work their way into a high-income career by doing all their homework during high school, attending their flagship state university, majoring in something useful, and completing their degree with a good GPA. There is nothing stopping poor kids from being successful but themselves. This is proven by the countless poor kids who have worked their way into success. Jeff Bezos, for example, was the son of a teenage mom and a deadbeat dad. He's now the richest man in the world.
Charlie_KellyI agree, wish it was a little more akin to the books. They took some liberties (like the white orc) to drive the plot but overall I’d have preferred it was stylized like the original trilogy. Plus the side plot with Legolas was fucking pointless. I’d compare it to the Star Wars prequels, just didn’t live up to the originals.
ScaredwhiteboyKids born poor remain poor because they inherited bad traits from their poor parents. Why would you expect the offspring of a poor person to be equally likely to succeed as the offspring of a wealthy person? Usually, that wealthy person acquired wealth because they were intelligent or gifted in some other way. If true, you'd then expect their offspring would be more likely to succeed as well because they inherit the same traits that made their parents successful. Intelligence, charisma, work ethic, strength, speed, looks, etc. All these things factor into how successful you are in life, and they're all to some extent inherited genetically from your ancestors.
We already have a socialist education system in the United States. Any kid can get a full k-12 education regardless of their parents' income. There is no societal barrier preventing poor kids from succeeding in life. Any kid can work their way into a high-income career by doing all their homework during high school, attending their flagship state university, majoring in something useful, and completing their degree with a good GPA. There is nothing stopping poor kids from being successful but themselves. This is proven by the countless poor kids who have worked their way into success. Jeff Bezos, for example, was the son of a teenage mom and a deadbeat dad. He's now the richest man in the world.
LonelyPopulation size, and the difference in population sizes is the one of the most core ideas of statistics. Stick to being a constitution hating commie
Film.Oh no they got hit by a baton. There’s a video of a police officer getting ran over by a car right now. Oh no not the tear gas they scream “police brutality” as citizens start killing cops. You are a moron bro, not all cops are bad. The nations burning to the ground right now because criminals are fighting back against cops. Because the cops try to enforce rules. One bad cop kills someone and 10 fine cops get murdered. Yet you don’t give a fuck about the cops who died in the line of duty protecting you from ruthless criminals. Fuck off
CLQThat's crazy you only start caring about peoples lives when they are white police officers. Those same police officers protect the "bad apples" when they don't speak out about crimes their colleagues commit, they just protect each other. While I don't like seeing people get hurt, the police understand the risks and get paid to be on the frontline. George Floyd wasn't paid to be on the frontlines, Eric Garner wasn't paid to be on the frontlines. The only crime they committed was being black in America.
Film.Yes so the only option to stop police brutality is kill every police officer and destroy every city. Spot on logic bud surprised you aren’t at the riots right now ruining shop owners lives who have nothing to do with George Floyd’s murder. Go fuck yourself and go fuck yourself again. You probably flip police officers off while driving by like I did when I was 12 after discovering NWA. Congratulations you have the intelligence of a 12 year old.
ScaredwhiteboyKids born poor remain poor because they inherited bad traits from their poor parents. Why would you expect the offspring of a poor person to be equally likely to succeed as the offspring of a wealthy person? Usually, that wealthy person acquired wealth because they were intelligent or gifted in some other way. If true, you'd then expect their offspring would be more likely to succeed as well because they inherit the same traits that made their parents successful. Intelligence, charisma, work ethic, strength, speed, looks, etc. All these things factor into how successful you are in life, and they're all to some extent inherited genetically from your ancestors.
We already have a socialist education system in the United States. Any kid can get a full k-12 education regardless of their parents' income. There is no societal barrier preventing poor kids from succeeding in life. Any kid can work their way into a high-income career by doing all their homework during high school, attending their flagship state university, majoring in something useful, and completing their degree with a good GPA. There is nothing stopping poor kids from being successful but themselves. This is proven by the countless poor kids who have worked their way into success. Jeff Bezos, for example, was the son of a teenage mom and a deadbeat dad. He's now the richest man in the world.
r00kiePeaceful protesters being assulted is very messed up. I would suport anyone defending themselves against an officer doing such things. But lighting things on fire, smashing windows, spraying graffiti, looting businesses is not a form of self-defence.
**This post was edited on Jun 1st 2020 at 11:46:16pm
SnowshoeThompsonPopulation size has nothing to do with a graph that references individual incidents. If anything individual cases would ultimately swing in the minorities favor. It clearly shows 13% Of the population is far more violent than the 17% of Hispanics, or the 6% of Asians or the 60% of whites that make up the US
I’m sure you aren’t that stupid and this is a troll attempt after having no factual reason to delegitimize a statistic you don’t like.
why don’t you go lick some boots you constitution loving white supremacist
ronders_Maybe if the cops wanted to stop the looting they could go stand in front of the businesses to protect them. But no, they have to stand in formation in full riot gear, in a fucking line across the street, don't arrest any actual looters, because that would make them actually have to do their jobs, and beat the shit out of everyone else who isn't looting just to assert their dominance or whatever. The business owners have to now take up arms and defend their own businesses, because the police won't actually help, they're so fucking incompetent.
Turd__AuthoritySo curfew in Columbus past couple days that begins at 10pm which is right the time when I leave work to go home. First two nights, the road blocks were different locations. Took me about 45min instead of the usual 15min to get home.
So today, I'm working night shift, heading into work, I go to get off my normal exit and there's cones partially blocking it but wide enough for a car to fit through. So I slow down and then stop because we are supposed to be exempt from the curfew (just show badge and cool) but the cop car doesn't look like he's in a position for me to show my badge. He's parked directly facing the ramp. I call police dispatch and conveniently they have no fucking clue. Now I got some cunt behind me laying on her horn and trying to get around me nearly scraping my car. Ended up having a tense conversation with this bitch who said she lives nearby, probably in some overpriced renovated crack house. She takes the lead and starts to move forward.
The cop then turns on his sirens and horn and pulls up his loud speaker and tells us to leave immediately. Fuck me, the hospital is literally 500yds from the exit and I can't get off. So now her, I, and about 10 other cars have to merge from stopped and onto a busy freeway right at a choke point.
I was so fucking pissed. Had to jump on another highway and take neighborhood streets to double back to work; not the safest neighborhood either. Rolled in 30min late.
You might be asking why I even tried to get off somewhere that looked closed. Well my coworker the other day tried getting home and kept hitting roadblock after roadblock and going in circles. They keep randomly changing the road blocks and don't have this info posted anywhere. Not the police website. Not ODOT. Nowhere! Absolutely bullshit. The way the curfew is worded, we should be able to get through. Man I was heated.
LonelyPopulation size has everything to do with it. Population size and the data you get from that population can entirely skew a graph and statistical analysis aka survivorship bias. The simplest example I can think of is this- say you are shooting 14 grey marbles at a pile of 70 green marbles, 11 blue marbles, 9 yellow marbles, 7 green marbles, and 3 red marbles. Pretty likely that you are going to hit a green marble eh? Considering the fact that they are 70% of the total marbles. I don't even want to talk about this anymore. If you are cool with extrajudicial killings there is not much I can do to change that.
The bootlicking and white supremacy is rich considering you are trying to justify the assault of inocconenet civilians sitting on their property and the unjustified murder of a black man. Sorry for liking true freedom for all people.
LonelyList of incidents of police brutality since the protests started.
Working on a list, please feel free to share it:
firing something at innocent person on their porch:
https://streamable.com/u2jzoo
cop appearing to be enjoying himself today:
https://v.redd.it/jjclrdzp8x151
cop shooting something at guy for saying "fuck you":
https://v.redd.it/zepg0b43ly151
cops breaking supplies for peaceful protestors:
https://v.redd.it/v8x8isj0xz151
nypd driving into protestors:
https://v.redd.it/mztm15kh00251 https://gfycat.com/misguidedrecklesscod
cops shoving an old dude to the ground:
https://v.redd.it/bluggpblrz151
police actively seeking out fights compilation:
https://v.redd.it/m82yxl4qh0251
cop driving at people aggressively on a campus:
https://v.redd.it/ngxvkoro60251
cop shooting rubber bullets at people watching from apartment:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sarah_Mojarad/status/1266633046591078400?s=09
police shooting the press with rubber bullets:
https://v.redd.it/o3v8ps7rat151
police arresting a CNN reporter:
https://v.redd.it/yce9bpk8mo151
police doing a drive-by pepper spraying
https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1266193926316228609
photographer being pepper sprayed:
https://i.redd.it/4ix8f3j6dy151.jpg
guy with hands in the air gets his mask ripped off and pepper sprayed:
https://v.redd.it/wlx0gyoe21251
lady who was coming home with groceries who got a rubber bullet to the head:
https://i.redd.it/ns0uj557x0251.jpg
https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinRKrause/status/1266898396339675137
reporter blinded by rubber bullets:
https://mobile.twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/1266618525600399361?s=19
reporter describes getting tear gassed:
https://mobile.twitter.com/mollyhf/status/1266911382613692422
couple getting yanked out of their car and tased for violating curfew:
https://mobile.twitter.com/GAFollowers/status/1266919104574865410?s=19
young woman gets shoved to the ground by officer:
https://mobile.twitter.com/whitney_hu/status/1266540710188195843?s=20
reporter sheltering in gas station is pepper sprayed: https://twitter.com/MichaelAdams317
reporter trying to get home gets window shot out: https://twitter.com/JaredGoyette/status/1266961243476299778
cops come at a guy for filming a police car burning:
https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1266953514242228229
photographer arrested:
https://youtu.be/9wgkGLmphLE
Columbus police assaulting protestors:
https://twitter.com/KRobPhoto/status/1266796191469252610
congresswoman sprayed with pepper spray during protest:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/30/politics/joyce-beatty-ohio-pepper-sprayed-columbus-protest/index.html
7 protesters fired on with rubber bullets:
https://v.redd.it/tal1ncha4o151
cops pepper spraying a group of protestors without provocation https://v.redd.it/0dxnkso0a1251
young child allegedly pepper sprayed:
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/video-shows-milk-poured-over-face-of-child-pepper-sprayed-in-seattle-protest
horse tramples young woman, police investigating: https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/05/30/watch-video-captures-moment-police-horse-tramples-woman-during-houston-rally/
cop pushes protestor with his bike
https://twitter.com/ava/status/1266797973834395648?s=20
Reuters reporters detail being shot at with rubber bullets:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-protest-update/reuters-cameraman-hit-by-rubber-bullets-as-police-disperse-protesters-idUSKBN237050
Cincinnati Police shooting at people sitting down and macing a knocked out dude in the face
https://mobile.twitter.com/kodyfishertv/status/1266901735198638082
Cop pushing through other officers to shove & pepper spray a group of protesters standing with their hands up.
https://twitter.com/alexbandea/status/1266933734277873664
Cop shooting unarmed protester.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gtv6ug/downtown_salt_lake_city_may_30th_2020_unarmed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Cops leaving protest shoot paper ball at person on the sidewalk:
https://twitter.com/heyydnae/status/1267139396278661121?s=21
Austin police firing rubber bullets at a peaceful crowd:
https://twitter.com/ironfront7/status/1267133400156196870?s=21
Omaha - known racist shoots and kills young black protester. Questioned and released (on a Saturday night) without charges
https://www.omaha.com/news/crime/slain-protester-identified-downtown-omaha-assesses-damage-from-vandalism/article_0238d156-cea2-54b8-9a54-05e4e6e3ea42.html?fbclid=IwAR2N07VChdIg5wFm7kCd1FH3eZmhblhPSjpqjK0SZMQq0ecRE9cOGoG4SxM#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
Man pepper sprayed in his own apartment on 2nd floor. Richmond, VA
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1267213758360846338?s=19
Cops shoot pepper balls into an apartment windows. https://twitter.com/GIFsZP/status/1267241803750813703
LV - just waking. Literally that’s all.
https://twitter.com/lasvegaslocally/status/1267210841595604992?s=21
Madison WI - This video that I took last night of a police officer pepper spraying a peaceful protestor with their arms up:
https://twitter.com/NeonMarionette/status/1266962885957292032?s=20
cops come at a guy for filming a police car burning:
https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1266953514242228229
video compilation of most of these links:
https://youtu.be/OIgw1VJJLIM
r/2020PoliceBrutality for a community to post and discuss the events
if you have anything you'd like to add please link it!
Not my original comment, please copy and share
BiffbarfUh, haven't you heard dude? Your opinions don't matter because being late to work is nothing compared to being a black person facing racial injustice.
You should be happy and you're lucky that you're just late to work
(Am I doing the mental gymnastics right guys?)
Film.After this week of watching these savages destroy cities I’ll say it with pride. I BACK THE BLUE. Thank the police for keeping your city from burning to ash from these monsters.
BLUE LIVES MATTER
**This post was edited on Jun 2nd 2020 at 12:40:14am
CLQGeorge Floyd wasn't paid to be on the frontlines, Eric Garner wasn't paid to be on the frontlines. The only crime they committed was being black in America.
JAHpowYeah, the legolas thing was dumb. A few years ago I thought maybe there was going to be a miniseries made of The Silmarillion. That would've been awesome, but I think it's too epic in scope to make possible. Who knows if there would even be much interest in it. I love The Silmarillion, but I know several others who thought it was boring.
Charlie_KellyI was too young when I read the Silmarillion and didn’t really understand much of what Tolkien was doing. Definitely need to reread. I think a series would be fantastic, plenty going on in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd age to keep audiences interested.
Charlie_KellyI was too young when I read the Silmarillion and didn’t really understand much of what Tolkien was doing. Definitely need to reread. I think a series would be fantastic, plenty going on in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd age to keep audiences interested.
JAHpowMy hope would be for it to turn into a game of thrones scale and quality production (just without a wildly anticlimactic ending). It could very well be the most epic story told of that universe. Considering that the wars and turmoil were so great that the gods literally broke and sunk the land into the ocean.
**This post was edited on Jun 2nd 2020 at 10:17:10am
**This post was edited on Jun 2nd 2020 at 10:19:06am
Charlie_KellyAh yes, Beleriand, which would have extended west of the shire and misty mountains.
Is the amazon show still on? I hear it is to take place in the second age.
JAHpowThe Lord of the Rings is expected to premiere on Prime Video in 2021. A second season was formally ordered in November 2019."
That's according to Wikipedia. I'm very excited. It may just blow the doors off of Game of Thrones.
theabortionatorYeah everyone's equal and people need to stop being lazy and pull themselves up by their bootstraps right?
Here's an example of somebody that wasn't wealthy and now is crushing see?
This thread blows.
ScaredwhiteboyThey're not equal; that was the whole point. The same way short people birth short kids, stupid people birth stupid kids. The primary reason poor kids don't often get out of poverty is because they are stupid just like their parents. If you believe in evolution, this shouldn't even be controversial. Even if society were perfectly fair, poor kids would still be less likely to succeed because they are more likely to inherit bad genes from their parents.
If it's impossible for poor people to pull themselves out of poverty, how did Jeff Bezos do it? And not only did he pull himself out of poverty, he made himself the richest man in the world.
BiffbarfThis would make sense if intellect was the only worthwhile measure of a man
JAHpowWell, that, along with drug possession, grand larceny, false impersonation, driving without a license, selling untaxed cigarettes, resisting arrest, forgery, assault. All accounting for over 30 arrests.
Should they still be alive? Absolutely. Was what the particular officer did that resulted in the death of each justified. Nope.
Is their only 'crime' being black? Definitely not.