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Turd__AuthorityAnd for anyone debating that there there wasn't criminal intent to murder above, here's the full video. It's clear it goes from excessive force to oops to I'm going to continue this even though I know fucked up. Read my post about the autopsy where I break down the video. If any lay person did this, they would be fucked. https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CTIq6_1591489222
The autopsy lends even more evidence to the claim that he wasn't trying to kill. Floyd had heart disease, coronavirus, and fentanyl intoxication at the time of his death. Those three things almost certainly increased his risk of death by multiple orders of magnitude. What the officer did would not have killed a healthy person. The autopsy claims he died of asphyxiation but you can literally hear him talking in the video. How was he able to speak if he was being asphyxiated? The autopsy found what the violent mob of criminals terrorizing the streets wanted it to find, but its findings are directly contradicted by the video.
Also, the autopsy showed that he was 6'6", 242lbs. That's enormous. I highly doubt the officer could have effectively restrained a man that large via normal means.
Also, George Floyd had been arrested eight times previously, including once for armed robbery, and he was actively committing a DUI when police officers apprehended him. If a white person did all this, society would call him "white trash" and nobody would shed a tear about his death.
The four police officers should be acquitted, and the three who didn't do anything should never have been charged at all.
ScaredwhiteboyThe autopsy lends even more evidence to the claim that he wasn't trying to kill. Floyd had heart disease, coronavirus, and fentanyl intoxication at the time of his death. Those three things almost certainly increased his risk of death by multiple orders of magnitude. What the officer did would not have killed a healthy person. The autopsy claims he died of asphyxiation but you can literally hear him talking in the video. How was he able to speak if he was being asphyxiated? The autopsy found what the violent mob of criminals terrorizing the streets wanted it to find, but its findings are directly contradicted by the video.
Also, the autopsy showed that he was 6'6", 242lbs. That's enormous. I highly doubt the officer could have effectively restrained a man that large via normal means.
Also, George Floyd had been arrested eight times previously, including once for armed robbery, and he was actively committing a DUI when police officers apprehended him. If a white person did all this, society would call him "white trash" and nobody would shed a tear about his death.
The four police officers should be acquitted, and the three who didn't do anything should never have been charged at all.
Extrajudicial killings are cool!!!!
He was in cuffs sitting on the curb. I guess with your logic next time someone large struggles in cuffs they should be shot because there is no way 4 180lb + officers could ever restrain them.
It's called hypoxia. He likely occluded his airway (restricting airflow) and restricted his diaphragm (the thing that causes your lungs to expand and inhale) resulting in smaller shallower breaths. You can certainly talk as he did without breathing 100%. Once his blood oxygen levels dropped enough, he struggled one last bit in panic as we all would and then went unconscious and eventually into respiratory and then cardiac arrest. You can also go into cardiac arrest from hypoxia so that could have even come first if his breathing was restricted enough. Pretty simple. You ever seen videos where they bury people in sand and eventually they can't breathe because they can't expand their lungs due to the weight but they're still talking? Yeah same concept.
He had atherosclerosis which is narrowing of arteries by buildup of plaque. Yeah it can cause an MI but he didn't have an MI and the autopsy supported that. So atherosclerosis was not to blame. It also said he had mild cardiomegaly- so what, tons of people do. He did not have heart failure. So heart disease impact? Probably minimal if at all.
I'm not gonna go into the other details as I already have at great length in a previous post. Read if you want.
It's seeming like you've got this confirmation bias that's clinging to any shred of evidence to support the claim that health issues killed him rather than the enormous amount of evidence to the contrary. Not really sure how else to explain it. If this doesn't help, I feel sorry for your teachers. If it does, then great.
If you're so confident, come over here and let me sit on you outside in the heat like that and we will see how long it takes for you to die. P. S. You will.
Also one thing no one is mentioning is we don't see how long he was in that position before the video began. It was at least 8min though.
Last thing, you mentioned why didn't he fight back? Well um duh we all know what happens when you do that. You really are a pasty af white boy with no sense of reality.
ScaredwhiteboyThe autopsy lends even more evidence to the claim that he wasn't trying to kill. Floyd had heart disease, coronavirus, and fentanyl intoxication at the time of his death. Those three things almost certainly increased his risk of death by multiple orders of magnitude. What the officer did would not have killed a healthy person. The autopsy claims he died of asphyxiation but you can literally hear him talking in the video. How was he able to speak if he was being asphyxiated?
@WoFIowz Im chillin. Im actually not even the one downvoting you guys. Im a technical person and like looking at all the facts and details and discussing them. Nice writeup by the way, can you send the link to the report? Ive been looking for the actual doc for a while.
Regarding the meth in his system, it is low but meth does clear pretty quick from your body so there is a good chance it was a higher dose and he was coming down and still on Fentanyl? Also, interesting the report shows a broken rib from CPR, they must have done it in the ambulance so that at least clears them from the people thinking the EMTs didnt do anything to save George as the video suggests.
Turd__AuthorityLmao this idea is gonna be interesting. There's still things we need police for but they do need a change in scope of abilities and more accountability. Protect and serve is not how they act in everyday life. We do need a better focus on poverty, drugs, and mental health rather than pushing it aside and using the police to shield us from it.
Fun fact, Columbus actually has a huge Somali population and my Somali uber driver the one night was talking about how the biggest population of somalis is in Minneapolis. The Somalis call it "little dishu". 🤣😂 I kid you not.
The whole defund the police force is a horrible knee jerk reaction to this. Having less money just means less training and equipment. Or even worse, the police that need money and cant get it locally will just go get military equipment from the Feds through the 1033 program. So in a way this may actually centralize the power of law enforcement which is the exact opposite of what we need right now.
So this will actually militarize the police more because you have:
1. Massive civil unrest and violence
2. Less local funding for training and community outreach
3. Tons of excess military equipment from the "War on Terror"
4. See "1" for justification to have use said equipment
This also means more citizens coming together to protect communities with Militias etc which can get out of hand real quick. This is the kind of shit that fucked up Yugoslavia.
SuspiciousFish@WoFIowz Im chillin. Im actually not even the one downvoting you guys. Im a technical person and like looking at all the facts and details and discussing them. Nice writeup by the way, can you send the link to the report? Ive been looking for the actual doc for a while.
Regarding the meth in his system, it is low but meth does clear pretty quick from your body so there is a good chance it was a higher dose and he was coming down and still on Fentanyl? Also, interesting the report shows a broken rib from CPR, they must have done it in the ambulance so that at least clears them from the people thinking the EMTs didnt do anything to save George as the video suggests.
I can't find the private one though. And yeah CPR definitely causes trauma and can break ribs. Could have happened in the tussle with police too which would further corroborate the respiratory compromise issue, although I vote CPR as the culprit; the autopsy lists abrasions on every part of his body which basically says he was resisting the cops or got roughed up in some sort of struggle.
I'd sure like to see the full body cam footage start to finish. They released some but it's like a video version of a CIA report. Useless. So many redactions.
I can't find the private one though. And yeah CPR definitely causes trauma and can break ribs. Could have happened in the tussle with police too which would further corroborate the respiratory compromise issue, although I vote CPR as the culprit; the autopsy lists abrasions on every part of his body which basically says he was resisting the cops or got roughed up in some sort of struggle.
I'd sure like to see the full body cam footage start to finish. They released some but it's like a video version of a CIA report. Useless. So many redactions.
Same here. I watched it when it was released and it was ridiculous how redacted it was with black squares and audio muted out for half the thing. I think the audio will really show the officer intent of what happened when he got pinned, maybe that is why they wont release it? The security cam footage looks like the officer raised his voice but it didnt really show resistance or anything until he started to collapse once they got him across the street.
Other interesting thing is the store owners came to the car to ask for their merchandise back but George and his friend refused. Then the cops came to the car and one of the officers actually pulled out his gun when George refused to put his hands on the wheel. The officer on George's neck was not on the scene at this time though. Had George threatened one of the officers which initially put them on edge?
**This post was edited on Jun 8th 2020 at 12:58:05pm
ScaredwhiteboyThe autopsy lends even more evidence to the claim that he wasn't trying to kill. Floyd had heart disease, coronavirus, and fentanyl intoxication at the time of his death. Those three things almost certainly increased his risk of death by multiple orders of magnitude. What the officer did would not have killed a healthy person. The autopsy claims he died of asphyxiation but you can literally hear him talking in the video. How was he able to speak if he was being asphyxiated? The autopsy found what the violent mob of criminals terrorizing the streets wanted it to find, but its findings are directly contradicted by the video.
Also, the autopsy showed that he was 6'6", 242lbs. That's enormous. I highly doubt the officer could have effectively restrained a man that large via normal means.
Also, George Floyd had been arrested eight times previously, including once for armed robbery, and he was actively committing a DUI when police officers apprehended him. If a white person did all this, society would call him "white trash" and nobody would shed a tear about his death.
The four police officers should be acquitted, and the three who didn't do anything should never have been charged at all.
I think the crux of this is the cops should have changed their tactics given this was clearly a medical event.
George was coming down from a 'Speedball' of Meth and Fentanyl with more Fentanyl than meth in his system. This indicates he was previously high on both which countered the downer effects of the Fentanyl. Once the meth wore off, the downer got to him which made him appear drunk and messed up when the employees confronted him. He was also incoherent or threatening when the cops came as the cop initially drew his gun when he came to the car and two cops had to basically drag him out of his seat to cuff him.
George was then moved from the convenience store across the street to the squad car where he collapsed on the sidewalk and complained he could not breath and was claustrophobic when they tried to put him in the car. They got him in but he looked like he struggled and came out the other (street) side of the car and hit the pavement. At this point he was restrained and died during this restraint.
So the case will revolve around much of the redacted audio of the police body cams. What was said during the initial confrontation with Floyd in the drivers seat which prompted the officer to draw his gun? Did he complain he couldnt breath before they even tried to get him in the squad car? Did he threaten any of the officers?
That is the question, were the cops warranted in their continued restraint of George during a lethal medical event and was the restraint done in a way that caused or contributed to his death?
SuspiciousFishI think the crux of this is the cops should have changed their tactics given this was clearly a medical event.
George was coming down from a 'Speedball' of Meth and Fentanyl with more Fentanyl than meth in his system. This indicates he was previously high on both which countered the downer effects of the Fentanyl. Once the meth wore off, the downer got to him which made him appear drunk and messed up when the employees confronted him. He was also incoherent or threatening when the cops came as the cop initially drew his gun when he came to the car and two cops had to basically drag him out of his seat to cuff him.
George was then moved from the convenience store across the street to the squad car where he collapsed on the sidewalk and complained he could not breath and was claustrophobic when they tried to put him in the car. They got him in but he looked like he struggled and came out the other (street) side of the car and hit the pavement. At this point he was restrained and died during this restraint.
So the case will revolve around much of the redacted audio of the police body cams. What was said during the initial confrontation with Floyd in the drivers seat which prompted the officer to draw his gun? Did he complain he couldnt breath before they even tried to get him in the squad car? Did he threaten any of the officers?
That is the question, were the cops warranted in their continued restraint of George during a lethal medical event and was the restraint done in a way that caused or contributed to his death?
Can you imagine the riots when the DA can’t charge him with 2nd degree? From what you are saying (not sure if true) it sounds like them upgrading the charges may have been a huge mistake. Can you imagine if he walks? Chauvin’s gonna have to move to a foreign country and never come back to America again.
**This post was edited on Jun 8th 2020 at 1:44:56pm
Film.Can you imagine the riots when the DA can’t charge him with 2nd degree? From what you are saying (not sure if true) it sounds like them upgrading the charges may have been a huge mistake. Can you imagine if he walks? Chauvin’s gonna have to move to a foreign country and never come back to America again.
**This post was edited on Jun 8th 2020 at 1:44:56pm
That is the dangerous thing about this. We are so far down the rabbit hole of rioting etc that having an objective trial is almost impossible. Imagine being one of the poor saps that are put on the jury on this one?
Another interesting thing is George had about 11ng/ml of Fentanyl in his system and based on this study (Results on page 8) teh average ng/ml for fatal overdoses is 9.96.
This is why its so irresponsible for the independent autopsy to claim he was healthy when the video evidence and toxicology clearly shows he wasnt. For a defense attorney this is firepower to discredit the independent report entirely.
I wonder if this is why the police cams are so redacted, maybe George mouthed off to the cops initially and made some kind of threat and the cops are keeping it in their back pocket for the court case knowing public release may make it inadmissible?
I can see it now:
DA is under pressure to do Murder 2.
Court video shows some kind of threat made by George initially in the car when cop pulled gun.
Defense attorney shows toxicology of meth and Fentanyl and shreds independent report that he was healthy.
Defense claims since threat was made and drug use, cops had to use restraint despite medical event
Jury is torn and gets hung and probably goes to mistrial.
Cluster fuck ensues trying to get new trial set up that is even somewhat objective
Minneapolis burns to the ground.
**This post was edited on Jun 8th 2020 at 2:04:22pm
SuspiciousFishAnother interesting thing is George had about 11ng/ml of Fentanyl in his system and based on this study (Results on page 8) teh average ng/ml for fatal overdoses is 9.96.
**This post was edited on Jun 8th 2020 at 2:04:22pm
What a completely meaningless number. A 10 MG edible will get someone with no tolerance pretty high!! What will it do for someone who smokes weed everyday though? Neither autopsy has indicated that fent was a "cause of death."
Im on the side of the rioters because something has gotta change with american police.
maybe end the fucking war on drugs and let adults order anything they want at the pharmacy as long as a doctor supervises the drug choices to check for dangerous combinations etc.
you can tax the fuck out of it so instead of wasting hundreds of billions fighting the war on drugs the gov can make hundreds of billions in taxes to spend on drug clinics, free healthcare, homeless shelters, and schools. Also we can free nonviolent drug offenders so we dont have to pay a few rich puritanical pizzas billions to imprison innocent people.
cops should be given lie detector tests to find out whether they think assaulting or shooting a citizen would be a rewarding experience for them and Then you can fire the 25-50% of these asshole pigs that fail the test.
pretty much everybody i know has had a run in with an asshole cop who plays the authority card to boost their ego.
Sam Zahner who many of you know had a cop shoot at him as him and his friends ran from a party that got busted.
If it was just a few bad apples there wouldnt be such a huge trend of everybody running into these pompous authoritative loser pigs.
i bet if you ended the drug war all the asshole cops who could no longer invade peoples privacy and tell them what kind of plant matter they are allowed to have would either find a different profession or kill themselves.
**This post was edited on Jun 8th 2020 at 4:42:22pm
I missed something in a video that changes the dynamic a bit but might not matter for the jury case. In the shop owner video you can see him appearing visibly impaired when walking, however his facal expressions still seem alert. So I'm thinking was this just a result of cuffs and being pulled around? Then I see in the top left of the end that he's crossing the sidewalk with them. He's visibly shuffling and dragging his feet and super disoriented and then falls down.
Theres still a gap of no footage from then until the cop is on his neck, but it's clear he was pretty fucked up on opiates.... And he was about to get in a car...
So initial stop and having him get out of the car was honestly justified based on that information. That's a fact
He was arrested for just cause if they said DUI. People are ignoring this. He was no angel in real life. Was he a product of society? Perhaps.
What was wrong though is he was having a medical emergency and the cop acted negligently by ignoring pleas for help. Some of the others were guilty for failing to act. Cheuvin obviously deserves to go to jail for a long time/forever. And the Asian dude deserves some time too.
His death was only a catalyst though that ignited a movement and pulled back the shades from our eyes on what's really happening. That's the real key here. We are seeing true colors of brutality in these protests.
SuspiciousFishThat is the dangerous thing about this. We are so far down the rabbit hole of rioting etc that having an objective trial is almost impossible. Imagine being one of the poor saps that are put on the jury on this one?
Another interesting thing is George had about 11ng/ml of Fentanyl in his system and based on this study (Results on page 8) teh average ng/ml for fatal overdoses is 9.96.
This is why its so irresponsible for the independent autopsy to claim he was healthy when the video evidence and toxicology clearly shows he wasnt. For a defense attorney this is firepower to discredit the independent report entirely.
I wonder if this is why the police cams are so redacted, maybe George mouthed off to the cops initially and made some kind of threat and the cops are keeping it in their back pocket for the court case knowing public release may make it inadmissible?
I can see it now:
DA is under pressure to do Murder 2.
Court video shows some kind of threat made by George initially in the car when cop pulled gun.
Defense attorney shows toxicology of meth and Fentanyl and shreds independent report that he was healthy.
Defense claims since threat was made and drug use, cops had to use restraint despite medical event
Jury is torn and gets hung and probably goes to mistrial.
Cluster fuck ensues trying to get new trial set up that is even somewhat objective
Minneapolis burns to the ground.
**This post was edited on Jun 8th 2020 at 2:04:22pm
One of my friends posted a pic from upstate ny. Actually the town my buddy used to live in. Small rural town in nowheresville.
I can't post the pictures probably somebody had white power and other things painted on plywood signs in his yard. A lot if hate for sifferent groups. I guess they got tired of hearing about protests and decided their landscaping could use a little racism etc.
We used to jam at my buddies house not far away all the time. Was nice because neighbors were so far away we could play music al night.
Idk not surprising just fucked.
Also rolling into my hometown driving back from CA to visit a few years back. Small ass rural town, 40p year round residents and then a few more in the other "towns".
First restaurant right on the edge of rhe woods before you even hit cell service. Somebody changed the sign to say "No mexicans or n......s allowed". Was pretty chill to be the first thing I see coming back home. I was excited to be ending the journey then 10 min from my larents house see that shit. Made me wonder why I ever left.
But for real they were some pretty fucked signs. Not sure what was worse, the message or the art skills. You'd think with all the free time they would put a little more time into making a quality sign to get their message out.
Intrested with cops and live pd getting canceled, what about the real issue. Cops in every tv show and movie made skip out on warrants, don't let people see their lawyer, assault people in custody etc. I don't think cops and live pd were that bad. I understand it but Ive thought the way police were portrayed in movies was bullshit for a while. Would be nice if there was a change.
Is there a popular cop movie where they get warrants and don't rough up people in custody, bend or break all rules?
I like a good movie but Ive long wondered if any of that shit has an impact. Worth a look imo.
theabortionatorIntrested with cops and live pd getting canceled, what about the real issue. Cops in every tv show and movie made skip out on warrants, don't let people see their lawyer, assault people in custody etc. I don't think cops and live pd were that bad. I understand it but Ive thought the way police were portrayed in movies was bullshit for a while. Would be nice if there was a change.
Is there a popular cop movie where they get warrants and don't rough up people in custody, bend or break all rules?
I like a good movie but Ive long wondered if any of that shit has an impact. Worth a look imo.
Hmmmm idk if there is lol. Maybe end of watch?
Also watched Den of Thieves on Netflix and omfg Gerard Butler played the dirtiest cop it was aggravating. Almost ruined the plot he was so annoyingly dirty. Present events aside, it was seriously dumb.
Kind of interesting all these people getting pummeled for saying "colored people" such as Ellen Degeneres. Do people not know what NAACP stands for? Is this like the N word? Only some people can say it? Like wtf lol people are so anal and inconsistent
theabortionatorIntrested with cops and live pd getting canceled, what about the real issue. Cops in every tv show and movie made skip out on warrants, don't let people see their lawyer, assault people in custody etc. I don't think cops and live pd were that bad. I understand it but Ive thought the way police were portrayed in movies was bullshit for a while. Would be nice if there was a change.
Is there a popular cop movie where they get warrants and don't rough up people in custody, bend or break all rules?
I like a good movie but Ive long wondered if any of that shit has an impact. Worth a look imo.
Movies are fiction, cops/live pd is real cops (with some script obviously) but I think this conversation goes down the same path as "video games make you violent" its just not true. Movies are suppose to be ridiculous and unrealistic, hollywood movies are there to entertain us, not educate us.
Turd__AuthorityKind of interesting all these people getting pummeled for saying "colored people" such as Ellen Degeneres. Do people not know what NAACP stands for? Is this like the N word? Only some people can say it? Like wtf lol people are so anal and inconsistent
What is weird is the new politically correct name for minorities is POC which is "People of Color"
theabortionatorIntrested with cops and live pd getting canceled, what about the real issue. Cops in every tv show and movie made skip out on warrants, don't let people see their lawyer, assault people in custody etc. I don't think cops and live pd were that bad. I understand it but Ive thought the way police were portrayed in movies was bullshit for a while. Would be nice if there was a change.
Is there a popular cop movie where they get warrants and don't rough up people in custody, bend or break all rules?
I like a good movie but Ive long wondered if any of that shit has an impact. Worth a look imo.
Until 2 weeks ago we by and large supported a very fair bit of 'roughing up' while cops arrested people.
The very light shove of the guy in Buffalo is why there can't be a Cops anymore. He initiated contact and walked right into their path but people are freaking out like he got curb stomped.
I doubt they carry it over to fictitious arrests in films where we want action.
Cops went to far. And the overreaction right now with the world locked down has gone too far.
eheathMovies are fiction, cops/live pd is real cops (with some script obviously) but I think this conversation goes down the same path as "video games make you violent" its just not true. Movies are suppose to be ridiculous and unrealistic, hollywood movies are there to entertain us, not educate us.
Nah bro haven’t you seen out of shadows? Bruh they just decentralizing you and brain washing you bruh.
actually kinda crazy they cancelled those shows, honestly they kinda scared me a bit, some cops are real fucking good at their jobs, otherwise it entertained me and I learned how not to deal with the police I think.
PeppermillRenoUntil 2 weeks ago we by and large supported a very fair bit of 'roughing up' while cops arrested people.
The very light shove of the guy in Buffalo is why there can't be a Cops anymore. He initiated contact and walked right into their path but people are freaking out like he got curb stomped.
I doubt they carry it over to fictitious arrests in films where we want action.
Cops went to far. And the overreaction right now with the world locked down has gone too far.
Uhhhh that dude is gonna die or have severe brain damage as a result. 10+ cops walked past without administering aid (their job btw to stop regardless of the circumstances) when he was clearly incapacitated and bleeding profusely out his ear. Freak out is warranted. Yeah he was instigating the cops but they escalated the situation above and beyond.
Turd__AuthorityUhhhh that dude is gonna die or have severe brain damage as a result. 10+ cops walked past without administering aid (their job btw to stop regardless of the circumstances) when he was clearly incapacitated and bleeding profusely out his ear. Freak out is warranted. Yeah he was instigating the cops but they escalated the situation above and beyond.
Yeah but what did he expect? He was out past curfew in a city that has been looted and burned down and walked into a riot line of cops and started hitting one with his phone. The pushed him back which is a natural response of anyone. The guy was also a known agitator and has been arrested 4 times at different events. I think he was looking for a response to be on film but didnt expect tripping over backwards and cracking his head on the pavement. The cops radioed for medical immediately and there were medics on the guy within 30 seconds. If your a cop with limited medical training, there is no point in stopping when there is nothing you can do and even touching or moving someone with a possible spine injury can kill them.
Charlie_KellyThey guy fell like a tree, if I stiffed up like a board and fell back on some concrete I’d probably crack my ear open too.
haha the two cops are getting charged with assult, their lives are ruined, and they will never be able to work again. they lose, the guy they assulted won. fuck u
SuspiciousFishYeah but what did he expect? He was out past curfew in a city that has been looted and burned down and walked into a riot line of cops and started hitting one with his phone. The pushed him back which is a natural response of anyone. The guy was also a known agitator and has been arrested 4 times at different events. I think he was looking for a response to be on film but didnt expect tripping over backwards and cracking his head on the pavement. The cops radioed for medical immediately and there were medics on the guy within 30 seconds. If your a cop with limited medical training, there is no point in stopping when there is nothing you can do and even touching or moving someone with a possible spine injury can kill them.
Not actually true. National guard were the ones who stopped. Watch the video
SuspiciousFishYeah but what did he expect? He was out past curfew in a city that has been looted and burned down and walked into a riot line of cops and started hitting one with his phone. The pushed him back which is a natural response of anyone. The guy was also a known agitator and has been arrested 4 times at different events. I think he was looking for a response to be on film but didnt expect tripping over backwards and cracking his head on the pavement. The cops radioed for medical immediately and there were medics on the guy within 30 seconds. If your a cop with limited medical training, there is no point in stopping when there is nothing you can do and even touching or moving someone with a possible spine injury can kill them.
A cop went down to help him and the other cop pulled him away. They did not radio for EMS immediately, the first things the commanding officer said was " Leave him" then "Grab those two" arresting two witnesses. If he was really a threat or obstructing what they were doing put him in cuffs and arrest him. It was a 70 year old man vs 60 cops. Doesn't matter if its a light shove or a hard shove. Its not right. Shoving people to the ground that are outnumbered 60 to one, especially old people is shitty. If you cant say its shitty than you are a shitty person.
You know what happens if a twenty year old shoves an angry old person to the ground in the grocery store, causing unconsciousness and bleeding to the head? They get arrested. They go to jail. Cops are supposed to protect and serve.
Turd__AuthorityHmmmm idk if there is lol. Maybe end of watch?
Also watched Den of Thieves on Netflix and omfg Gerard Butler played the dirtiest cop it was aggravating. Almost ruined the plot he was so annoyingly dirty. Present events aside, it was seriously dumb.
Yeah just seems like all of them are a little bit shady. If they get in trouble for doing something illegal it's like "Wtf boss, I'm getting criminals off the streets man"
eheathMovies are fiction, cops/live pd is real cops (with some script obviously) but I think this conversation goes down the same path as "video games make you violent" its just not true. Movies are suppose to be ridiculous and unrealistic, hollywood movies are there to entertain us, not educate us.
True, idk a lot the ones I watched of those the cops weren't even that douchey. Although you gotta love when they make it seem like theyre doing people a huge favor by giving them a ticket or arresting them.
I'm not one of those people saying "movies and video games are ruining the world" I just think that has to have some impact. Or it's based on cops really being that fucking shady. But if every friggin movie with cops they're always pretty damn dirty. There's no way that can't that won't impact some cops. I'm not saying ban cop movies, I've just thought their portrayal has always been super douchey. Or it's accurate and they're all douchey idk.
But some it's ridiculously cringey how little they follow the law. And a movie where there are cops being even slightly reasonable seems hard to find.
I wasn't really suggesting anything about what to do, but just mentioned it for whatever reason. Idk
PeppermillRenoUntil 2 weeks ago we by and large supported a very fair bit of 'roughing up' while cops arrested people.
The very light shove of the guy in Buffalo is why there can't be a Cops anymore. He initiated contact and walked right into their path but people are freaking out like he got curb stomped.
I doubt they carry it over to fictitious arrests in films where we want action.
Cops went to far. And the overreaction right now with the world locked down has gone too far.
That's shitty though. Even in the movies when we're like yeah fuck that guys rights he sold drugs! Maybe you shouldn't be a criminal if you want to be treated well!
Idk. Shits all whack this country is going crazy, I just need a beer.
he died and gave up his life so that WE could be free. He loved us so much with his heart that thru his death our sins could be healed and WE could be renewed.
coming together is the beginning, staying together is a process, and working together is a success.
real talk what the fuck is up with all these CUNT celebrities commenting on the BLM protests and movement? why aren't any of them dipping into their own pockets and offering support. bunch of phony ass mother fuckers. so many fake asshole celebrities. they dont actually give a rats ass, its just a sham
Dishonest journalists calling out other dishonest journalists might be the most cringeworthy but also nerve racking thing. This is why no one trusts the media.
