It looks like you are using an ad blocker. That's okay. Who doesn't? But without advertising revenue, we can't keep making this site awesome. Click the link below for instructions on disabling adblock.
Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post.
Register to become a member today!
Damn 100k deaths? Crazy that china, india, and Indonesia combined have 3.5 billion people and about a tenth of the total deaths the US has.
In fact, if NY and NJ where a country, they'd have the most 'rona deaths in the whole world. Gosh the USA just sucks doesn't it. We obviously need to get our shit together based on this very, very reputable data.
BiffbarfDamn 100k deaths? Crazy that china, india, and Indonesia combined have 3.5 billion people and about a tenth of the total deaths the US has.
In fact, if NY and NJ where a country, they'd have the most 'rona deaths in the whole world. Gosh the USA just sucks doesn't it. We obviously need to get our shit together based on this very, very reputable data.
If you are going to make the argument that the U.S. isn't comparable to other countries when it comes to health and economic policies don't go back on that and start comparing it again just to fit your narrative.
Lets fix our own shit and worry about everyone else later
LonelyIf you are going to make the argument that the U.S. isn't comparable to other countries when it comes to health and economic policies don't go back on that and start comparing it again just to fit your narrative.
Lets fix our own shit and worry about everyone else later
"If it ain't happening to me or anyone I know, then it ain't happening."
I have a nursing home across the street and lately it's been ambulances every night and paramedics in full suits and masks (only started seeing the suits a few weeks ago, since paramedics occasionally get called when someone has an emergency, and I saw them spraying each other down after they left the nursing home so I'm pretty sure corona is in there). Also a ton of FD ambulances going past my house from nearby towns, which I don't usually see. I live a couple blocks from the hospital, they have a caution taped off door for corona patients, so I'm assuming due to their facilities they're taking people from nearby areas.
Here's the thing. If you're young and healthy, sure, it most likely won't kill you. But to say "Oh all the victims are old, they were gonna die anyway" really? So you'd have no problem with someone walking into a nursing home and killing all the people because they were old and gonna die soon anyway? How many years did they have left? 1? 3? 10? 15? If we are lucky enough to live to that age, how will we reconcile the fact that when we were young, we put no value on the lives of the old?
I think an old person dying is truly a tragedy. All their experiences, all their knowledge, some from a time when we didn't even exist, wisdom that is impossible for us to ever attain because it came from a time we never experienced. If they die from corona, how much of that is lost forever, which could have been passed on to someone, even if they only had a year left to live?
We stand to lose an entire generation here, years before they would have otherwise died. But we stuff our old people in shitty nursing homes and try to forget about them, we act as if they are a burden rather than a valuable witness of the distant past. If 300 people in a nursing home died of corona, would anyone other than the staff even really know? So as with the rest of the ways we deal with our elderly, we kick them to the curb and "out of sight, out of mind". Fuck'em, who cares if they die anyway right???
Not sure who or why someone would down vote this. It's probably the most thoughtful comment I've ever seen on NS. Good take. +1
ronders_"If it ain't happening to me or anyone I know, then it ain't happening."
I have a nursing home across the street and lately it's been ambulances every night and paramedics in full suits and masks (only started seeing the suits a few weeks ago, since paramedics occasionally get called when someone has an emergency, and I saw them spraying each other down after they left the nursing home so I'm pretty sure corona is in there). Also a ton of FD ambulances going past my house from nearby towns, which I don't usually see. I live a couple blocks from the hospital, they have a caution taped off door for corona patients, so I'm assuming due to their facilities they're taking people from nearby areas.
Here's the thing. If you're young and healthy, sure, it most likely won't kill you. But to say "Oh all the victims are old, they were gonna die anyway" really? So you'd have no problem with someone walking into a nursing home and killing all the people because they were old and gonna die soon anyway? How many years did they have left? 1? 3? 10? 15? If we are lucky enough to live to that age, how will we reconcile the fact that when we were young, we put no value on the lives of the old?
I think an old person dying is truly a tragedy. All their experiences, all their knowledge, some from a time when we didn't even exist, wisdom that is impossible for us to ever attain because it came from a time we never experienced. If they die from corona, how much of that is lost forever, which could have been passed on to someone, even if they only had a year left to live?
We stand to lose an entire generation here, years before they would have otherwise died. But we stuff our old people in shitty nursing homes and try to forget about them, we act as if they are a burden rather than a valuable witness of the distant past. If 300 people in a nursing home died of corona, would anyone other than the staff even really know? So as with the rest of the ways we deal with our elderly, we kick them to the curb and "out of sight, out of mind". Fuck'em, who cares if they die anyway right???
If people took care of themselves half as well as they project they care about others, this world would be a better place. There's no such thing as true altruism. You do you booboo
Turd__AuthorityNot sure who or why someone would down vote this. It's probably the most thoughtful comment I've ever seen on NS. Good take. +1
Old people dying is way less of a tragedy than young people dying. Purely from a numbers perspective, a 20 year-old dying means he'll miss out on 60 years of life. An 80 year-old dying means he'll miss out on less than 5. In this sense, a young person dying is 10x more tragic than an elderly person dying. And this doesn't even take into account the fact that the last few years of your life are generally the most miserable.
Nobody is saying the elderly don't matter at all, but we shouldn't bankrupt a generation to give them an extra couple years in the nursing home. The elderly should take extra precautions and the young should continue going to school/work as normal.
ScaredwhiteboyOld people dying is way less of a tragedy than young people dying. Purely from a numbers perspective, a 20 year-old dying means he'll miss out on 60 years of life. An 80 year-old dying means he'll miss out on less than 5. In this sense, a young person dying is 10x more tragic than an elderly person dying. And this doesn't even take into account the fact that the last few years of your life are generally the most miserable.
Nobody is saying the elderly don't matter at all, but we shouldn't bankrupt a generation to give them an extra couple years in the nursing home. The elderly should take extra precautions and the young should continue going to school/work as normal.
I'm actually OK with opening back up, but for some reason we've done a really shitty job of keeping the 'rona away from the elderly, out of nursing homes etc... for example the one where they found 50 bodies in the closet. I'm not saying we should bankrupt ourselves but there definitely should be more in place to prevent the spread in assisted living facilities, hospitals and nursing homes. A vaccine would be key, if you could get it to the at risk groups then most people wouldn't even need it.
BiffbarfIf people took care of themselves half as well as they project they care about others, this world would be a better place. There's no such thing as true altruism. You do you booboo
I mean, I care about my family members. I don't want them to die now. But you know what the Earth would be better off without humans, and most of them are real shitty anyway so the rest of you can fuck off and die soon
