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To mask or not to mask?

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HypeBeast
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That is the question. Lots of opinions out there; I clicked on an ad from my city recommending masks and the amount of rage between people was insane. The amount of misinformation was also unreal. Reminds me why I hate Facebook, except this was on the NextDoor app.

Anyway where do you fit in? I'm not talking about wearing a mask outdoors; I'm talking about in stores, transportation authorities, and other crowded places. Answer the poll below and throw in a comment. Let's keep this civilized (good luck NS).

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.03.20051649v3

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7264640/

**This thread was edited on Jul 12th 2020 at 1:48:49am


Interesting piece: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768396

**This thread was edited on Jul 13th 2020 at 7:12:32pm

New study today. The evidence is definitely weighing towards masks yo: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768533

Editorial/response to above article: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768532
**This thread was edited on Jul 14th 2020 at 7:48:41pm

And for those who say they'll wear a mask when you're sick. No you stay home when you're sick. You might not know if you're infectious (aka asymptomatic transmission): discussion here but this was also published in a journal--> https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-1595_article

**This thread was edited on Jul 14th 2020 at 11:13:54pm
May 26 2020 9:44PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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PeppermillRenoOnly 1/3000 Americans have died from this shit. Do you realize how stupid all this is? 1% of the population dies annually regardless. This is 3% of that. Why are you all OK with having your lives fucked with?

You think people breathing through the same piece of cloth for hours on end is healthy?

Pathetic cunts.


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Jul 11 2020 3:16AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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dogfart entertainment needs to open back up or imma start screamin
Jul 11 2020 4:14AM
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PeppermillReno
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Turd__AuthorityActually right now it's 1% exactly as of today so 1/100 folks have tested positive. We all know there's plenty who are asymptomatic and also those who suffered through it at home but never got tested so probably higher than 1%. Definitely will be much higher by winter time.


Right. So why are the 99% being forced to suffer? This shit is stupid. We should have let it run it’s course in March.
Jul 11 2020 7:07AM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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PeppermillRenoRight. So why are the 99% being forced to suffer? This shit is stupid. We should have let it run it’s course in March.


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Jul 11 2020 7:18AM
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Kevski
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PeppermillRenoRight. So why are the 99% being forced to suffer? This shit is stupid. We should have let it run it’s course in March.



Would have thought that to most people, 1 of every 100 people in the country getting sick from a new virus in 4 months should seem like a lot. Especially since its growth is not slowing down and the death rate is climbing again, just like heath experts predicted.

Just sayin if people like you actually did your part and didn’t give up so easily you could be chillin right now, the economy cruising and barely anyone getting sick. Kind of like the rest of the developed world did.

You’re free to do you, but at this point you’re coming across as a bit of an entitled sociopath and it’s a pretty whack vibe.
Jul 11 2020 6:52PM
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PeppermillReno
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KevskiWould have thought that to most people, 1 of every 100 people in the country getting sick from a new virus in 4 months should seem like a lot. Especially since its growth is not slowing down and the death rate is climbing again, just like heath experts predicted.

Just sayin if people like you actually did your part and didn’t give up so easily you could be chillin right now, the economy cruising and barely anyone getting sick. Kind of like the rest of the developed world did.

You’re free to do you, but at this point you’re coming across as a bit of an entitled sociopath and it’s a pretty whack vibe.


What’s wrong with you calling me entitled and a sociopath? Because I don’t share your fear of it?

NY and Boston the thing is over. We’re open.


Your ideas are wrong there is no avoiding it Florida and Texas just delayed it. Other countries are liars.


I have followed every mask rule. Sorry I’m employed and working and go to my local spots to keep them in business. My gym was empty today it was more sad than nice.
Jul 11 2020 7:55PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Taiwan doesn't seem to be lying..

Jul 11 2020 8:38PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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Ok and we played the first thing that came to our heads
Jul 11 2020 8:44PM
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Kevski
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PeppermillRenoWhat’s wrong with you calling me entitled and a sociopath? Because I don’t share your fear of it?

NY and Boston the thing is over. We’re open.


Your ideas are wrong there is no avoiding it Florida and Texas just delayed it. Other countries are liars.


I have followed every mask rule. Sorry I’m employed and working and go to my local spots to keep them in business. My gym was empty today it was more sad than nice.


"Let it run its course" - means you're happy to suggest letting other people get sick and die so you can be free to enjoy normal life again. That is anti-social at its core, and combined with your persistent attempts to downplay the virus as alarmist or insignificant, speaks to an entitlement towards some sort of exception or special treatment. Denying others' expertise and focusing on a narrative that enables life as normal. Sociopath is likely a stretch, but trending in a common direction.

Happy for you to prove me wrong and that you are in fact motivated to help others through difficult times. People who have made similar arguments to yours have been more blunt about who they consider a "worthy sacrifice" and what personal liberties they prioritize above others' health. I may have made some assumptions.

This isn't about fear, it's about respect and compassion. For your neighbours who might not have jobs like you do and couldn't handle a long drawn-out unemployment, and for those who might not be able to handle the disease as well as you and I presumably would. It's weird how people complain about masks not protecting them enough to be worth it or about being "forced" to wear one - it is a sign of respect for others that you're willing to take on a small inconvenience to protect those around you, and should really be a no-brainer in close-quarters situations indoors.


Not sure where your suggestion that European countries, Asian countries, Australia, NZ, Scandinavia, and Canada are all lying comes from but I'd love to read it. I bet it's entertaining.
Hate to break it to you, but we aren't lying.
In Canada at least we definitely benefitted from a unified approach and more significant federal financial support, but there was an energy of community and enough people took it seriously who were able to really hunker down to limit spread. And it worked. We opened slowly and the numbers in BC are still down at like 5-20 cases a day with a quarter of Florida's population. Which is honestly pretty much how it played out everywhere but most of the USA. The little fires that come up in most countries are generally small enough to be handled by existing contact tracing resources.

So not only is it doable, but it has been done. You don't need to have a huge outbreak like NY or MA to get numbers down. And a precautionary approach will unquestionably save lives.

I can appreciate your point on being employed and supporting your community. I've also kept my job through the pandemic and have continued to support local businesses. This doesn't mean we can't be smart about limiting our interactions or let ourselves get totally lazy when numbers get lower. The sooner it goes away the sooner your gym will be full, and this isn't gonna happen if states keep citing more cases than most countries.


Welp. Didn't think I was gonna take the bait but here we are. Kinda fun.
Jul 11 2020 9:56PM
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CLQ
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A customer told my co-worker, who was wearing a mask, that wearing a mask is communist bullshit and he shouldn't wear one. The customer was pretty fat so hopefully he dies when he gets it.
Jul 11 2020 10:20PM
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50Kal
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CLQA customer told my co-worker, who was wearing a mask, that wearing a mask is communist bullshit and he shouldn't wear one. The customer was pretty fat so hopefully he dies when he gets it.

Don't lose hope. That fat piece of shit will die of diabetes, heart disease or even a blood clot. You just got to keep the faith and hope for the best!!!
Jul 11 2020 10:45PM
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CLQ
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50KalDon't lose hope. That fat piece of shit will die of diabetes, heart disease or even a blood clot. You just got to keep the faith and hope for the best!!!


Fingers crossed man
Jul 11 2020 10:53PM
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HypeBeast
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Damn the poll got deleted on editing the description. I added 3 journal articles on masks that influenced IHME projections. I have not evaluated them so feel free to do so if you're a nerd who likes journal clubs.
Jul 12 2020 1:51AM
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HypeBeast
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This exception that kids under 10 don't have to wear masks is garbage. They safely can down to age 2. It should be no masks under 2yo. Or at least require it but don't enforce it under 10 since kids are wild
Jul 12 2020 6:19PM
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ALMIGHTYSOSA
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ownly on licks
Jul 12 2020 10:02PM
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icedancer
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it recently was voted that it is required to wear a mask to enter businesses where im from. although im not sure about the sciences behind wearing a mask it isnt much of an inconvenience to me
Jul 12 2020 10:07PM
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ALMIGHTYSOSA
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bret werk
Jul 12 2020 10:08PM
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HypeBeast
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Added some more articles for the naysayers
Jul 14 2020 7:49PM
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Kevski
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Turd__AuthorityAdded some more articles for the naysayers


Thanks for adding these dude.

But naysayers seem to really enjoy sharing incomplete/irrelevant statistics and recycling soundbites about liberty - by the fact they have gotten this far and maintained their stance I wouldn't expect them to have the patience to read anything scientific.
Jul 14 2020 9:08PM
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HypeBeast
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KevskiThanks for adding these dude.

But naysayers seem to really enjoy sharing incomplete/irrelevant statistics and recycling soundbites about liberty - by the fact they have gotten this far and maintained their stance I wouldn't expect them to have the patience to read anything scientific.


Oh well. One can try. Anyway added another article for those who say they will wear a mask if they have symptoms. Asymptomatic transmission is not something you will know lol, there's no way around that.
Jul 14 2020 11:15PM
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jca
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I can't believe this isn't satire.
Jul 15 2020 10:33PM
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theabortionator
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jcaI can't believe this isn't satire.


He died free as fuck though. Murica
Jul 15 2020 10:37PM
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jca
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theabortionatorHe died free as fuck though. Murica


Canada, free-er than free.
Jul 15 2020 10:46PM
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theabortionator
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jcaCanada, free-er than free.


Oh shit. I didn't realize people in Canada were just as dumb as they are here.
Jul 15 2020 10:51PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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https://www.brighamandwomens.org/about-bwh/newsroom/press-releases-detail?id=3608

In March of 2020, Mass General Brigham implemented a new policy: everyone working at the hospitals would be required to wear a surgical mask. At the time, the concept of universal masking was new and its potential effectiveness unclear. But now, a new study led by investigators from Brigham and Women’s Hospital and published in JAMA makes it clear: after universal masking was implemented at Mass General Brigham, the rate of COVID-19 infection among health care workers dropped significantly.


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Jul 15 2020 11:15PM
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jca
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theabortionatorOh shit. I didn't realize people in Canada were just as dumb as they are here.


It's a highly contagious disease, I'll blame Uncle Donny down south.
Jul 15 2020 11:53PM
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ModMommy
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MT governor ordered mandatory masks statewide so now we don’t have a choice. I hate them, but it makes others more comfortable so whatever.
Jul 16 2020 10:48AM
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Charlie_Kelly
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safarisamMT governor ordered mandatory masks statewide so now we don’t have a choice. I hate them, but it makes others more comfortable so whatever.


Yeah it’s kind of boiling down to whether you give a shit about other people or not.
Jul 16 2020 11:38AM
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ModMommy
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Charlie_KellyYeah it’s kind of boiling down to whether you give a shit about other people or not.

Yeah, that’s what I’ve realized. I figure if you’re not willing to then don’t go out.
Jul 16 2020 11:44AM
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Charlie_Kelly
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safarisamYeah, that’s what I’ve realized. I figure if you’re not willing to then don’t go out.


Exactly. I wasn’t for a while (outside of work) and realized the message I was sending. It has nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with compassion for fellow citizens. As someone who generally hates people it was a big step for me lol.
Jul 16 2020 11:47AM
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PeppermillReno
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So if I pee in a pool but am wearing a bathing suit its the same thing as not peeing in the pool?
Jul 16 2020 4:34PM
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Film.
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https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/06/26/california-northeast-states-mask-wearing-poll/
They are clearly working.
Wear a mask you selfish assholes

Jul 16 2020 6:05PM
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theabortionator
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All I got out of this was that it's cool if I stop wearing pants in public. I think that was the message?
Jul 16 2020 6:08PM
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HypeBeast
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PeppermillRenoSo if I pee in a pool but am wearing a bathing suit its the same thing as not peeing in the pool?

Nah unless you got a uti if should be sterile. Peeforall
Jul 16 2020 6:20PM
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mom said its my turn to repost this..
Jul 16 2020 9:26PM
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MiIfHunter
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TRVP_ANGELmom said its my turn to repost this..


dogfart network needs to open up. i am going crazy!!!!!!!
Jul 16 2020 9:53PM
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HypeBeast
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Fucking site
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Aug 26 2020 2:45AM
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HypeBeast
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Omg

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Aug 26 2020 2:46AM
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HypeBeast
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I give up

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Aug 26 2020 2:47AM
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Stainr
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im in Michigan, still haven't wore a mask 1 time.... our governor is a twat waffle.
Aug 26 2020 8:58AM
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Rparr
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Stainrim in Michigan, still haven't wore a mask 1 time.... our governor is a twat waffle.

and you're still a dumb hick
Aug 26 2020 11:32AM
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eheath
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Trumpkin2020Fucking site
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what are you trying to post?
Aug 26 2020 11:42AM
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Stainr
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Rparrand you're still a dumb hick


ok Kid
Aug 26 2020 11:57AM
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soulskier
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I wear a mask when in closed spaces around other people; would probably still do so if it wasn’t mandated by the state

I just wish we could be trusted as reasonable adults to be given information and make our own decisions
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