To mask or not to mask?

ScaryDumpTruckPeople might call me selfish, but no. As long as I'm not sneezing or coughing (which I would probably stay home if I was anyway) I won't wear a mask. Because the virus can be traveled through the air which a mask won't stop, I won't bother wearing one.

**This post was edited on May 26th 2020 at 10:09:18pm

ScaredwhiteboyNo, because it's annoying and it only helps if I'm sick which I'm not.

ScaryDumpTruckPeople might call me selfish, but no. As long as I'm not sneezing or coughing (which I would probably stay home if I was anyway) I won't wear a mask. Because the virus can be traveled through the air which a mask won't stop, I won't bother wearing one.

**This post was edited on May 26th 2020 at 10:09:18pm

ScaredwhiteboyNo, because it's annoying and it only helps if I'm sick which I'm not.

BiffbarfThey have signs in my area to wear masks on multiuse trails. I have only seen one mtb rider stop to mask up so far when passing someone lmao

In my area restuarants are opening up dine in seating again, and many still offer curbside pickup and masked required pickup options. When a private business wants to say wear a mask, that's cool. When the man says it on public land.... ehhhhhhhhh

Turd__AuthorityWhat they do provide is a fluid shield that blocks a large majority of particles from passing from your nose/mouth to the outside world.

iggyskierThere is no scientific debate as to whether or not masks help prevent spread. None.

Wear a mask.

SnowshoeThompsonTriggered. This thread is stupid as fuck. Obviously wearing one when a business deems it necessary for entry is whatever. Acting like you’re saving the population while labeling anybody else that doesn’t as selfish, gtfo.

OP has ranted about people that don’t wear masks as being lesser of a human In another thread. Also claimed he wore gloves at gas pumps and that we should be more like Asian countries.

abortionator is relating anybody that doesn’t wear a mask as being sexist and racist.

Less than .3% mortality rate. Virus does not spread easily through surfaces. virus is spread mostly from human contact -CDC


If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.“

-W.H.O.

People assessing information and thinking for themselves is a thing of the past apparently. I guess it’s easier to watch the rest of the population panic over sensationalism.

I seriously can’t comprehend how people justify hating on individuals that support the constitution. Mind boggling...

covid 1984.

SnowshoeThompsonTriggered. This thread is stupid as fuck. Obviously wearing one when a business deems it necessary for entry is whatever. Acting like you’re saving the population while labeling anybody else that doesn’t as selfish, gtfo.

OP has ranted about people that don’t wear masks as being lesser of a human In another thread. Also claimed he wore gloves at gas pumps and that we should be more like Asian countries.

abortionator is relating anybody that doesn’t wear a mask as being sexist and racist.

Less than .3% mortality rate. Virus does not spread easily through surfaces. virus is spread mostly from human contact -CDC


If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.“

-W.H.O.

People assessing information and thinking for themselves is a thing of the past apparently. I guess it’s easier to watch the rest of the population panic over sensationalism.

I seriously can’t comprehend how people justify hating on individuals that support the constitution. Mind boggling...

covid 1984.

theabortionatorIf your region or a business asks you to wear a mask and you don't you're either a child or chode. You aren't being oppressed. Friggin white people problems. The guy at the door asked me to wear a mask and I was like "Fuck you man this is America you can't make me!'

SnowshoeThompsonPeople assessing information and thinking for themselves is a thing of the past apparently. I guess it’s easier to watch the rest of the population panic over sensationalism.

SnowshoeThompsonI agree, people who feel the need to flex at businesses that make it mandatory are jabronis.

i was at ace yesterday and there was a lady arguing with the dude at the door about it. She literally just went to her truck and wrapped a t-shirt on her face and then they let her in no problem. It makes no sense to me how there is no standard of an appropriate mask with no actual studies proving effectiveness. It’s more of an facade/aesthetic to calm the Karen’s IMO. Meanwhile Maybe 10% of the people at Home Depot had masks on.

CLQThere are plenty of studies showing the effectiveness of masks, even cloth masks help stop the spread. Have you tried using your last 2 brain cells to look for those studies?

Turd__AuthorityDefinitely don't want this thread to turn into a boxing match over who is and who isn't. Nor do I want people to be shamed. It created was purely for survey and intrigue. I do have some questions for you both.

So, correct, surgical masks and face coverings don't stop particle from passing to you as the air is also sucked in from the top, bottom, and sides. What they do provide is a fluid shield that blocks a large majority of particles from passing from your nose/mouth to the outside world. Trust me on this; sneezing in your only mask at the beginning of a shift fucking sucks. Soaked like skierman's mom.

So have you considered that aspect? Therefore while it doesn't protect you or others 100%, it still does a fantastic job of limiting particle spread.

Have you considered that you could be asymptomatic and not know? We spew respiratory droplets all the time without realizing it.

iggyskierI'll be on my deathbed still wondering how the fuck this is a real conversation...there might be a lot of opinions, but the medical science on this is definitive - wear a mask.


Even basic cloth masks stop droplets. Droplets are primary cause of spread. This isn't hard. Also - "probably" stay home when coughing is just the confidence inspiring statement those who interact with seniors regularly want to hear.

Serious question. Can you explain not wearing a mask in a public setting (grocery store, pharmacy, airport, etc) that isn't selfish?


So you have access to tests to confirm daily that you aren't asymptomatic? And because it's annoying....



Some people are going overboard here in terms of using them when, say, hiking, biking, sitting alone on a beach. Viral load matters and I would be hard pressed to see a common situation here you would reach that without someone coughing in your face while hiking or biking (obviously much different situation where prolonged exposure in an enclosed space - even if spread out - can infect a ton of people - IE Skagit Valley Chorale-esc situation - which is why dine-in restaurants are pretty much fucked for the interim).

There is a level of logic here that is getting overlooked in favor of a blanket policy just to try and get people to wear them (because we're too dumb for that level of nuance).

But the fact that there is even a conversation now about whether or not there is value in wearing masks when you are in public and around other people shows how fucking dumb we've become as a country (to be fair, there were lots of dumb people in 1918 too - looking at you Anti-Mask League of San Francisco).

There is no scientific debate as to whether or not masks help prevent spread. None. Wear a mask when you are in public, or don't go in public. In the realm of topics that have become political - one where both sides often have some merit - this one is beyond dumb. Speechlessly dumb. As in I wonder how-you-tie-your-shoes-in-the-morning dumb.

Wear a mask.

Film.You can’t even formulate an argument without resorting to name calling. In every thread someone destroys your entire argument and you resort to name calling like a child. I’m not even tryna make this a political debate at all. You just suck at debating anything. Anytime you resort to name calling the other debater who keeps their cool wins.

**This post was edited on May 27th 2020 at 2:58:17am

CLQHey I think i went to elementary school with you, you were one of the kids who rode the short bus and wore a helmet 24/7. Glad to see you finally learned how to write

SnowshoeThompsonTriggered. This thread is stupid as fuck. Obviously wearing one when a business deems it necessary for entry is whatever. Acting like you’re saving the population while labeling anybody else that doesn’t as selfish, gtfo.

OP has ranted about people that don’t wear masks as being lesser of a human In another thread. Also claimed he wore gloves at gas pumps and that we should be more like Asian countries.

abortionator is relating anybody that doesn’t wear a mask as being sexist and racist.

Less than .3% mortality rate. Virus does not spread easily through surfaces. virus is spread mostly from human contact -CDC


If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.“

-W.H.O.

People assessing information and thinking for themselves is a thing of the past apparently. I guess it’s easier to watch the rest of the population panic over sensationalism.

I seriously can’t comprehend how people justify hating on individuals that support the constitution. Mind boggling...

covid 1984.

SnowshoeThompsonMeanwhile Maybe 10% of the people at Home Depot had masks on.

Turd__AuthorityDamn I was hoping this thread wouldn't turn to this but DOH TRIGGERED!!!! IT'S ON MOTHERFUCKERERRRRR!

Bud, all your referenced organizations support wearing masks, not just when you're infected or showing symptoms. If you are showing symptoms, it's strongly recommended that you don't go out. You can't just pick and choose what information to relay.

And your comment about people not being able to assess information and make their own decisions is kind of funny. People believe what they want to believe. We have a tendency to search for whatever stupid shred of information supports our argument or beliefs even if the overwhelming plethora of information says otherwise. It's called confirmation bias. If you're against masks, you're definitely going against expert recommendations. That's why people go to school for a decade; to become experts in whatever field they're in. It's not wrong to question stuff but come on man grow up, this is such a rudimentary thing that even children understand. You have to draw the line somewhere and TRUST that there's people out there who know more about this than you. Your comments and lack of comprehension on the topic makes me think you have no science or health background. And if that's the case, you have no credibility to be on here spewing out misinformation. You are 100% wrong on this but you're stubborn and think you know stuff because you can Google. This mask issue shouldn't be political but people on both sides are trying to make it into a left vs right movement. Like come the fuck on.

It's been a pleasure talking shit to you. As always, go fuck yourself to the moon and back.

CLQJust the other day you said the impeachment cost $5 billion, you were only off by $4.9 billion. When you google “$5 billion impeachment” the only thing that comes up is a satire website. Look in the mirror.

Film.“iT’s CaLlEd CoNfIrMaTiOn BiAs”

https://youtu.be/FRUYcMCtQT0

SnowshoeThompsonI agree, people who feel the need to flex at businesses that make it mandatory are jabronis.

i was at ace yesterday and there was a lady arguing with the dude at the door about it. She literally just went to her truck and wrapped a t-shirt on her face and then they let her in no problem. It makes no sense to me how there is no standard of an appropriate mask with no actual studies proving effectiveness. It’s more of an facade/aesthetic to calm the Karen’s IMO. Meanwhile Maybe 10% of the people at Home Depot had masks on.

SnowshoeThompsonTriggered. This thread is stupid as fuck. Obviously wearing one when a business deems it necessary for entry is whatever. Acting like you’re saving the population while labeling anybody else that doesn’t as selfish, gtfo.

OP has ranted about people that don’t wear masks as being lesser of a human In another thread. Also claimed he wore gloves at gas pumps and that we should be more like Asian countries.

abortionator is relating anybody that doesn’t wear a mask as being sexist and racist.

Less than .3% mortality rate. Virus does not spread easily through surfaces. virus is spread mostly from human contact -CDC


If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.“

-W.H.O.

People assessing information and thinking for themselves is a thing of the past apparently. I guess it’s easier to watch the rest of the population panic over sensationalism.

I seriously can’t comprehend how people justify hating on individuals that support the constitution. Mind boggling...

covid 1984.

SnowshoeThompsonsick argument dude

Turd__AuthorityDamn I was hoping this thread wouldn't turn to this but DOH TRIGGERED!!!! IT'S ON MOTHERFUCKERERRRRR!

Bud, all your referenced organizations support wearing masks, not just when you're infected or showing symptoms. If you are showing symptoms, it's strongly recommended that you don't go out. You can't just pick and choose what information to relay.

And your comment about people not being able to assess information and make their own decisions is kind of funny. People believe what they want to believe. We have a tendency to search for whatever stupid shred of information supports our argument or beliefs even if the overwhelming plethora of information says otherwise. It's called confirmation bias. If you're against masks, you're definitely going against expert recommendations. That's why people go to school for a decade; to become experts in whatever field they're in. It's not wrong to question stuff but come on man grow up, this is such a rudimentary thing that even children understand. You have to draw the line somewhere and TRUST that there's people out there who know more about this than you. Your comments and lack of comprehension on the topic makes me think you have no science or health background. And if that's the case, you have no credibility to be on here spewing out misinformation. You are 100% wrong on this but you're stubborn and think you know stuff because you can Google. This mask issue shouldn't be political but people on both sides are trying to make it into a left vs right movement. Like come the fuck on.

It's been a pleasure talking shit to you. As always, go fuck yourself to the moon and back.

Turd__Authority*March 8th

SnowshoeThompsonunderstanding there is 0 evidence proving effectiveness of face masks = assessing information.

iggyskierFor clarity, you are, of course, asserting this specifically as it pertains to non-surgical and non-N95 masks correct?

Film.If you’re gonna be constantly touching the front of your mask and readjusting it all the time what the fuck is the point.

iggyskierOne point of clarity here. Everyone is operating under the assumptions that the general public is fully untrained and incapable of keeping their mask surface clean in the event they are using - say - a N95 in a high viral load environment like a nurse - where Don/Doff procedures are of paramount importance. That is intended to protect the wearer. We're all basically saying - yup - people do fidget and won't be capable of keeping those surfaces clean, nor do they know how to don/doff properly.

Mask usage to protect the wearer against airborne droplets would really require properly fitted and managed N95s - in which case an argument could be made to question if the effort is worth the cost (it likely still would be, but alas). That isn't what we're talking about here.

This is about lowering the viral load by limiting the amount of droplets that get into the environment - something a cloth mask alone will do. Same way a handkerchief collects material when you sneeze into it. By doing so, it also means that wearing something like a N95 in public - harder due to supply issues - is not as vital as it might be if everyone is just breathing and coughing away at will.

Cloth masks aren't air tight and they don't catch everything - and offer much less performance in terms of filtering out a virus compared to both a surgical or N95/N99/N100. You still have viral shedding when you breath. But it catches droplets when you talk, shout, sneeze, etc - which is the end goal in trying to get the public to buy in.

Film.

Film.The “experts” knew all this in March and didn’t recommend them, why?

Film.The “experts” knew all this in March and didn’t recommend them, why?



I know why, because they do nothing.

**This post was edited on May 27th 2020 at 4:09:57am

iggyskierBy experts you mean, say, the Surgeon General or CDC yes? Well, in their own words, they changed their recommendation from no masks to masks in the end of March specifically due to (already well known) evidence of asymptomatic spread.

"Here's what's changed," Surgeon General Jerome Adams claimed on Meet the Press yesterday. "We now know that about 25%, in some studies even more, of COVID-19 is transmitted when you are asymptomatic or presymptomatic." While that particular estimate, which CDC Director Robert Redfield began floating on March 31..."

NYT - 3/31 - C.D.C. Weighs Advising Everyone to Wear a Mask
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/health/cdc-masks-coronavirus.html

CDC page then updated April 3.

President Trump said Friday the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now recommends that people wear cloth or fabric face coverings, which can be made at home, when entering public spaces such as grocery stores and public transit stations. It is mainly to prevent those people who have the virus — and might not know it — from spreading the infection to others.

Though the president is obviously publicly anti mask - CDC/FDA/NIH/Conoravirus task force all on the same page since then. Wear mask in public to decrease spread if you are sick (which you might not know).

As for why we where behind the eight ball come late March with a virus that had vast, uncontrolled community spread with inadequate testing and no real plan? We all know the answer there

Film.Trumps gotta be alpha and not wear one. Gotta risk dying from Covid-19 to own the libs.

ScaryDumpTruckYeah like I said if I am sick I will stay home or wear a mask. But if I am perfectly healthy there is no reason for me to wear one.

Ik masks stop droplets thats why I said I will wear a mask if I am sneezing or coughing or "probably" stay home. Maybe I should have said "will".

ScaredwhiteboyNo, because it's annoying and it only helps if I'm sick which I'm not.

ScaryDumpTruckPeople might call me selfish, but no. As long as I'm not sneezing or coughing (which I would probably stay home if I was anyway) I won't wear a mask. Because the virus can be traveled through the air which a mask won't stop, I won't bother wearing one.

**This post was edited on May 26th 2020 at 10:09:18pm

ScaredwhiteboyNo, because it's annoying and it only helps if I'm sick which I'm not.