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Why Hate On Wide Skis?

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typicaldenverkid
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During ski season I often turn to you tube videos to help clear up some areas that I struggle in. This channel has some great content that helped me ski much better across all terrain. While yes they are ski racers I fell the video from the link below misses the point that skis should be made for fun. I love my wider skis and I'm not changing a thing.


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/963987/005-Wide-Skis

**This thread was edited on May 7th 2020 at 4:13:09pm
May 7 2020 4:04PM
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highpeak
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flavourtownthis guy is basically every ski racer's dad


As a former racer, can confirm. I started ditching practice on pow days in high school and whenever some of the dads would see me with pow skis they'd be like "u can't carve on those banana peels"
May 8 2020 12:03PM
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anders_a
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It's a very weird mindset thinking "their" part if skiiing is the one true. Skiiing is fun, changeing it up is fun. Theese days you can get twintips that can actually carve at highspeed.

A lot of racers have evolved to parkrats and freeriders.

Parkrats has evolved to awesome freeriders and piste carvers , heck to send it big with rotations you have to understand howto carve some turns. And anyone who tried rounded off beat up park skies on iced slopes..... park should just get more respect, even if its not as formula 1 inspired as other skiing.



What has turned out to my actual last day of the season I was shanghaied into doing a "beer league" style comptition, and heck I won, Much to everybodies surprise, including mine. Awesome afterparty and pretty insane prices , Ill give them that, will definetly do it again.
May 8 2020 12:50PM
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Chunderface
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OMG I want to bash this pussies head in.
May 8 2020 12:54PM
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nosebutterpizza
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Hahaha that felt like the intro to a porno with the weird acting and cleavage shots
BigPurpleSkiSuitWhat a review

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/964014/Cougar-Ski-Gear-Test--featuring-Theresa-Hendricks-
May 8 2020 1:34PM
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cydwhit
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Reminds me of this guy at Sun Valley. He's got this insane system that bolts onto your ski and uses metal tubes with springs in them to make it stiffer. He gave me a sticker that said "don't skid, ski!" I was on ski blades that day. Also, I skid a lot, I like skidding.


He went off about how fat skis are the worst thing to happen to skiing. "Fat skis make any beginner skier able to ski intermediate terrain, but badly! But they also make expert skiers ski like intermediate skiers! Fat skis make everyone into intermediate skiers!" (and by fat, he meant like 99 at the waist and above.
May 8 2020 1:36PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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I know hes probably around 50something but damn does he ski like an intermediate gaper. The Gaffneys still tear

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/964037/2013-Head--Worldcup-Rebels-i-Speed--GS-Ski-Test-With-Ron-Kipp
May 8 2020 3:07PM
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patagonialuke
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BigPurpleSkiSuitI know hes probably around 50something but damn does he ski like an intermediate gaper. The Gaffneys still tear

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/964037/2013-Head--Worldcup-Rebels-i-Speed--GS-Ski-Test-With-Ron-Kipp


having skied that ski, I didn't know it was possible to go that slow on it
May 8 2020 3:32PM
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anders_a
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Wait.. what? Im wathcing that last vid... what?! I think most our 80+yo regulars will outski him ;)
May 8 2020 3:33PM
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SofaKingSick
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i'm sure for every invention or development in human history there have been people opposed to it

computers, cars, cell phones, seat belts, fuckin shoes, it doesn't matter what it was or how beneficial, there was at least one jerkoff digging their feet in and trying to argue against it
May 8 2020 3:43PM
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ParkRx
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pokermanCoulda sworn this was Dolan thread.


I like to imagine that Dolan is Ron Kipp
May 8 2020 3:43PM
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Knapzach
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Boomer
May 8 2020 4:04PM
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SuspiciousFish
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anders_aI prefer some rocker to keep me from crashing into tight trees, then again I crashed into a tree and broke my wrist on enforcer 110s which are supereasy to pivot... so either way I suck.


A little rocker makes tree skiing so much fun, its also nice to be able to slarve back and forth instead of jump turn in really tight chutes. Same with moguls, you kind of bounce into the grooves in a fun way with rocker. I could probably bury that guy on a zipper line with my 188 underfoot CRJs. Hands down the best thing about rocker though is getting a bunch of speed on a headwall and throwing a massive McConkey turn. You can even do it on a groomer if its steep enough.

Also, fuck that selling yourself short. If your skiing tight trees hard enough to get messed up you got my respect any day of the week.
May 8 2020 4:32PM
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SuspiciousFish
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patagonialukeHaha holy shit, everything about that is amazing. I love how flawed most of his logic is, and his staring-into-your-soul eyes and giant chompers.

Please, no one show him this photo of my buddy carving a 118mm-wide ski, I don't want him to have an aneurism



You know your a G when you carve yourself into a hand drag...
May 8 2020 4:38PM
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JAHBRADOR
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May 8 2020 4:39PM
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BayAreaJerry
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this guy is a coach at squaw, rip to the kids he teaches
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/964041/Flex-your-Ankles
May 8 2020 4:39PM
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Canis_lupus
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I only have one pair and they’re armada zeros so they’re pretty narrow, mainly park skis. But when powder days come around it’s so hard to stay afloat. Would love some wide skis didn’t even know they’re was hate against them.
DIRTYBUBBLELmfao he said wide skis are for posers and then said “You want to sink into the powder, that’s enjoyable”. Uh no dude you want a wide ski because it provides buoyancy in so you can effectively ski deep snow. If you’re using narrow skis to pretend that you’re skiing deep powder then you’re the fucking poser. There’s a reason ski racers use narrow skis just as there’s a reason why professional powder skiers use wide skis.
May 8 2020 5:02PM
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snowfinder
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BayAreaJerrythis guy is a coach at squaw, rip to the kids he teaches
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/964041/Flex-your-Ankles

That was 12 minutes of bull shit. 100 years ago he would have been definitely a tonic cure all sales man.
May 8 2020 5:08PM
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rickygorecki
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Speachless
May 8 2020 7:38PM
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Bended_Toenail
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Ah hell, now I cant do the Super G on my 140mm powder skis
May 8 2020 9:15PM
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clorox
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While it all really comes down to personal preference, I don't really get people that ride 116mm skis daily, even in places like CO or UT. I could care less what skis people choose, but I went to CO for 2 weeks in January and skied basically everything on the Ikon pass, and only busted the JJ's out for one run. Everything else I used my Wet +'s and not once did I regret using the narrower ski, as they floated fine with the rocker. I might've had a different experience on a full camber ski tho.

It also seems a little ignorant to sum up the concept of floating on top vs skiing deep as being for poser kooks trying to get a sick insta shot. Getting pitted is fun af and if you're a good skier you don't need a fat ass ski to enjoy powder.

You can totally rip turns on a 118 with your hip to the ground as shown above, but wide ≠ always better

Guy is clearly old school af tho
May 8 2020 10:06PM
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ASSholebomber22
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finderWhile it all really comes down to personal preference, I don't really get people that ride 116mm skis daily, even in places like CO or UT. I could care less what skis people choose, but I went to CO for 2 weeks in January and skied basically everything on the Ikon pass, and only busted the JJ's out for one run. Everything else I used my Wet +'s and not once did I regret using the narrower ski, as they floated fine with the rocker. I might've had a different experience on a full camber ski tho.

It also seems a little ignorant to sum up the concept of floating on top vs skiing deep as being for poser kooks trying to get a sick insta shot. Getting pitted is fun af and if you're a good skier you don't need a fat ass ski to enjoy powder.

You can totally rip turns on a 118 with your hip to the ground as shown above, but wide ≠ always better

Guy is clearly old school af tho


It's all about the loosey goosey. A wide ski that can also rail can be very loose and playfull whereas sometimes a narrower ski can be a bit punchy through variable snow. I have more fun and feel like I have more control on my 116's on ungroomed terrain than on my narrower skis unless it's shitfuck conditions. But, all personal preference for sure.
May 8 2020 10:23PM
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hoodratz47
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Man. I want to ski with this guy .... I think I could help with his narrow stance and his poor body separation.... Also he rotates his skis prior to edge bite. And don't get me started on his pole plants. I feel for his race students



Ski what you want where ever you want. If I'm teaching. I'm trying to make the student use their bodies in thier unique ways with the skis being the tool.

But I definitely ski my experience 88s different then my billy goats.
May 9 2020 12:55AM
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SoggyOatmeal420
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hoodratz47Man. I want to ski with this guy .... I think I could help with his narrow stance and his poor body separation.... Also he rotates his skis prior to edge bite. And don't get me started on his pole plants. I feel for his race students



Ski what you want where ever you want. If I'm teaching. I'm trying to make the student use their bodies in thier unique ways with the skis being the tool.

But I definitely ski my experience 88s different then my billy goats.


For real though, how did he become the head coach, like I expected him to lay down some spicy turns...
May 9 2020 11:30AM
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OCoffey
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SuspiciousFishwith my 188 underfoot CRJs.


damn those are some fattys
May 9 2020 4:06PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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He turned the comments off on all his vids
May 9 2020 4:45PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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However, after a short bit of digging, if anyone's free this wed, there is a zoom meeting to occur

May 9 2020 4:48PM
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r00kie
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BigPurpleSkiSuitHowever, after a short bit of digging, if anyone's free this wed, there is a zoom meeting to occur


"What is good skiing" is the most PSIA topic ever hahah. They will never grasp the concept that good skiing is whatever is fun.
May 9 2020 4:58PM
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BayAreaJerry
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markus eder winning a slalom race with his 121's https://www.instagram.com/tv/B6I1aSNo6yk/?hl=en
its not a "real" race but point still gets made

**This post was edited on May 9th 2020 at 5:09:06pm
May 9 2020 5:07PM
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SoggyOatmeal420
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r00kieThey will never grasp the concept that good skiing is whatever is fun.


Preach that
May 9 2020 5:30PM
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r00kie
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SoggyOatmeal420Preach that


I will blow that whistle as long as I work as an instructor. The mentality turns more people away from skiing than it brings in.
May 9 2020 5:31PM
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plugs
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This guy embodies every bitter old ski instructor who’s skied the same way since before skis had shape and talks smack about everyone and everything but still gets dusted by kids on park skis even though their skis are too fat and they can’t ski because they look like a snowboarder.
May 9 2020 5:41PM
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SuspiciousFish
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OCoffeydamn those are some fattys


Lol 118 I mean. 188 length though.
May 9 2020 9:52PM
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WisconsinDogfart
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This guy is the reason why people jump off of lifts.
May 10 2020 1:24AM
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snowfinder
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He turned the comments off on his youtube page, boomer doesn't like hearing the truth who would have thought.
May 10 2020 8:56AM
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ABinThe603
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can't believe this dude is fat shaming smh
May 10 2020 6:38PM
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OCoffey
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I want your opinion @DominatorJacques drop some heat
May 11 2020 12:04PM
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Gfunkrussell
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Who doesn't like Fat!?
May 11 2020 1:16PM
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DominatorJacques
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OCoffeyI want your opinion @DominatorJacques drop some heat

Fat skis? They are good sometimes. I like me some skinny too! I have many skis in the mid 60mm's waist.
I have only two that are over 100mm. The right tool for the drool!



Here are the fat ski dudes workin' it!

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/899524/Bachelor-Parks-Real-Laps-Jonah-Elston---Nash-Lisac-March-30th-2018

**This post was edited on May 13th 2020 at 5:12:14pm
May 11 2020 6:58PM
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Chron_Rabbit
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Lowkey need a sweet pair of carving skis after watching that
May 11 2020 11:29PM
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