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westcoastskier69some more confirmation on the Hackel pro top sheet
Next_door_milfNo suprise now damn.
westcoastskier69It wasn't clarified that the graphic was available for any model.
Next_door_milfI didn't even notice thanks for pointing that out.
clindblomskierAnything in the works for a wider more all mountain oriented magnus like a magnus 108? Almost like the jeffrey 108 but with the magnus shape and flex
r00kieBlack bases going to be sweet.
Slunky
addisontheginger
might be part of the graphic on the other ski or maybe on the 90's
iggyskier
jcaFrom Scott on TGR, very interested in the Wren 102ti, BG 108 Tour, and BG. Curious to know what is being done in the construction of the tour core...
jcaWell that didnt work...
Here's a copy and paste:
Since it seems everyone is getting a bit restless, and we're close to dropping the start of the custom sale, happy to start talking about what is coming.
TOUR SKIS
Stocked tour skis will be BG Tour, BG 108 Tour, Woodsman 108 Tour, Jeffrey 108 Tour.
On custom, those options will expand out slightly to the Woodsman 96/102, Jeffrey 102.
We have a 189cm BG 108 Tour coming, but that length was one that we went back and forth on, so will see if there is enough interest to keep it around after 1 year. The BG 108 will be available in all 3 layups on custom, but only stocked in the Tour Layup.
CUSTOM LAYUP OPTIONS
We have 3 layup options coming.
Stock layup is using a new custom hybrid glass/carbon composite we've been working on a few years. This is for several reasons - primarily that it is a stronger bonding material than takes the uni-carbon off the core, in place of solid 45/45 glass, is heavier in its overall weight and thus has allows us to drop some weight on our cores (with the virus slow down, we're behind hundreds of skis, so the final weights for all the new skis are still being worked on, but in skis that were running 22oz fiberglass we're seeing a drop of about 100 grams/ski), and saves us a bit of production time as its only one material to prep (though cost sort of negates that). This change is across the board, so we did see a slight increase in weight in some of the 19oz based skis (specifically the Magnus). A lot stronger though, so worth the slight weight increase IMO.
50/50 is our new tour specific core, same composites, but also build with our stock base / edge. This is a custom only option.
Lastly Tour is our new tour specific core, same composites, but sigh....also thinner base and edge. 1.4mm 4001 base still - so not a huge drop from 1.8mm - but a narrower edge too. The weight savings were just too much to ignore. This is the layup that will be used on the standard ski line tour skis.
We're still getting pricing and finalizing the supply of this core right now - so full details won't be out until we have everything finalized (US sourced, so they've had similar virus delays as we have), but will be out shortly. Won't be the lightest - but that wasn't our goal.
RES
BG just the change in core profile/layup.
CD no change.
WRENEGADE
Wren 96 Ti and 108 Ti will be able to be ordered on custom if you want them (just email us), but we won't be stocking them. Sales on the Woodsman have been so good that we're pretty all in on that line.
Wren going ironically a bit back to where it was. 2 skis - 102 Ti and 110 Pro.
110 Pro is 186cm only, older rocker profile, big radius. Likely a preorder type deal for it as I only expect to build them 1x per year. We love the brand and the original intention of the skis, so this is about as true to that as we've had since we cut the 113.
102 has a tighter radius than 108, a bit more tip taper, and we moved the mount point on the 179/184 back about 1cm each. 189cm mount stayed the same.
I've been pretty clear that I think for most skiers the TI is best on a ski seeing lots of hard snow, hence the focus on a width that is going to see more use in harder conditions.
WOODSMAN
Woodsman gets new width - 102.
96 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
108 gets minor sidecut tweak + new core profile/layup.
116 gets minor sidecut tweak, flex made a bit softer + new core profile/layup.
Moved the mount point back 0.75cm across the line.
Flex on 177/182 made a bit softer in all widths.
JEFFREY
Jeffrey gets new width - 102.
96 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
108 gets new core profile/layup.
116 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
TI on CUSTOM
Woodsman 96/102/108 and Jeffrey 96/102/108 will be available with Titanal on custom.
We hadn't planned bringing metal to the BG because I just truly don't know who that would be for, but if there is interest we could make it happen.
MAGNUS
Magnus profile updated to give a bit more stiffness behind the heal.
Shape unchanged.
On custom, the Magnus 102 will be able to be ordered fully edgeless.
MERA
New women's Woodsman-variant called the Mera - comes in 102 to start. 162/167/172.
JESSIE
Jessie 108 goes custom only (+ new core profile/layup), and adds a 102.
Updated radius on the 96 + new core profile/layup.
GRAPHICS
3 new custom camo tops/bases.
Update to all the team tops/bases so the colors are now see thru to show the carbon layup.
Limited quantity Hackel and Mango Team skis coming (Magnus 102 with their own tops/bases).
5 new sidewall colors (blue, yellow, orange, coral, aqua + existing green/white/black).
I think that covers most of it for now. Custom should be up this week now that we're finally returning to normal work. Stock line will be released in parts over the coming month so we have a reason to keep people entertained for a bit (spring promo content all feel through for obvious reasons).
air.bubbleJeffrey 102 👀👀
jcaWell that didnt work...Thank you. I’m so excited for the jeff 102
Here's a copy and paste:
Since it seems everyone is getting a bit restless, and we're close to dropping the start of the custom sale, happy to start talking about what is coming.
TOUR SKIS
Stocked tour skis will be BG Tour, BG 108 Tour, Woodsman 108 Tour, Jeffrey 108 Tour.
On custom, those options will expand out slightly to the Woodsman 96/102, Jeffrey 102.
We have a 189cm BG 108 Tour coming, but that length was one that we went back and forth on, so will see if there is enough interest to keep it around after 1 year. The BG 108 will be available in all 3 layups on custom, but only stocked in the Tour Layup.
CUSTOM LAYUP OPTIONS
We have 3 layup options coming.
Stock layup is using a new custom hybrid glass/carbon composite we've been working on a few years. This is for several reasons - primarily that it is a stronger bonding material than takes the uni-carbon off the core, in place of solid 45/45 glass, is heavier in its overall weight and thus has allows us to drop some weight on our cores (with the virus slow down, we're behind hundreds of skis, so the final weights for all the new skis are still being worked on, but in skis that were running 22oz fiberglass we're seeing a drop of about 100 grams/ski), and saves us a bit of production time as its only one material to prep (though cost sort of negates that). This change is across the board, so we did see a slight increase in weight in some of the 19oz based skis (specifically the Magnus). A lot stronger though, so worth the slight weight increase IMO.
50/50 is our new tour specific core, same composites, but also build with our stock base / edge. This is a custom only option.
Lastly Tour is our new tour specific core, same composites, but sigh....also thinner base and edge. 1.4mm 4001 base still - so not a huge drop from 1.8mm - but a narrower edge too. The weight savings were just too much to ignore. This is the layup that will be used on the standard ski line tour skis.
We're still getting pricing and finalizing the supply of this core right now - so full details won't be out until we have everything finalized (US sourced, so they've had similar virus delays as we have), but will be out shortly. Won't be the lightest - but that wasn't our goal.
RES
BG just the change in core profile/layup.
CD no change.
WRENEGADE
Wren 96 Ti and 108 Ti will be able to be ordered on custom if you want them (just email us), but we won't be stocking them. Sales on the Woodsman have been so good that we're pretty all in on that line.
Wren going ironically a bit back to where it was. 2 skis - 102 Ti and 110 Pro.
110 Pro is 186cm only, older rocker profile, big radius. Likely a preorder type deal for it as I only expect to build them 1x per year. We love the brand and the original intention of the skis, so this is about as true to that as we've had since we cut the 113.
102 has a tighter radius than 108, a bit more tip taper, and we moved the mount point on the 179/184 back about 1cm each. 189cm mount stayed the same.
I've been pretty clear that I think for most skiers the TI is best on a ski seeing lots of hard snow, hence the focus on a width that is going to see more use in harder conditions.
WOODSMAN
Woodsman gets new width - 102.
96 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
108 gets minor sidecut tweak + new core profile/layup.
116 gets minor sidecut tweak, flex made a bit softer + new core profile/layup.
Moved the mount point back 0.75cm across the line.
Flex on 177/182 made a bit softer in all widths.
JEFFREY
Jeffrey gets new width - 102.
96 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
108 gets new core profile/layup.
116 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
TI on CUSTOM
Woodsman 96/102/108 and Jeffrey 96/102/108 will be available with Titanal on custom.
We hadn't planned bringing metal to the BG because I just truly don't know who that would be for, but if there is interest we could make it happen.
MAGNUS
Magnus profile updated to give a bit more stiffness behind the heal.
Shape unchanged.
On custom, the Magnus 102 will be able to be ordered fully edgeless.
MERA
New women's Woodsman-variant called the Mera - comes in 102 to start. 162/167/172.
JESSIE
Jessie 108 goes custom only (+ new core profile/layup), and adds a 102.
Updated radius on the 96 + new core profile/layup.
GRAPHICS
3 new custom camo tops/bases.
Update to all the team tops/bases so the colors are now see thru to show the carbon layup.
Limited quantity Hackel and Mango Team skis coming (Magnus 102 with their own tops/bases).
5 new sidewall colors (blue, yellow, orange, coral, aqua + existing green/white/black).
I think that covers most of it for now. Custom should be up this week now that we're finally returning to normal work. Stock line will be released in parts over the coming month so we have a reason to keep people entertained for a bit (spring promo content all feel through for obvious reasons).
jcaWell that didnt work...
Here's a copy and paste:
Since it seems everyone is getting a bit restless, and we're close to dropping the start of the custom sale, happy to start talking about what is coming.
TOUR SKIS
Stocked tour skis will be BG Tour, BG 108 Tour, Woodsman 108 Tour, Jeffrey 108 Tour.
On custom, those options will expand out slightly to the Woodsman 96/102, Jeffrey 102.
We have a 189cm BG 108 Tour coming, but that length was one that we went back and forth on, so will see if there is enough interest to keep it around after 1 year. The BG 108 will be available in all 3 layups on custom, but only stocked in the Tour Layup.
CUSTOM LAYUP OPTIONS
We have 3 layup options coming.
Stock layup is using a new custom hybrid glass/carbon composite we've been working on a few years. This is for several reasons - primarily that it is a stronger bonding material than takes the uni-carbon off the core, in place of solid 45/45 glass, is heavier in its overall weight and thus has allows us to drop some weight on our cores (with the virus slow down, we're behind hundreds of skis, so the final weights for all the new skis are still being worked on, but in skis that were running 22oz fiberglass we're seeing a drop of about 100 grams/ski), and saves us a bit of production time as its only one material to prep (though cost sort of negates that). This change is across the board, so we did see a slight increase in weight in some of the 19oz based skis (specifically the Magnus). A lot stronger though, so worth the slight weight increase IMO.
50/50 is our new tour specific core, same composites, but also build with our stock base / edge. This is a custom only option.
Lastly Tour is our new tour specific core, same composites, but sigh....also thinner base and edge. 1.4mm 4001 base still - so not a huge drop from 1.8mm - but a narrower edge too. The weight savings were just too much to ignore. This is the layup that will be used on the standard ski line tour skis.
We're still getting pricing and finalizing the supply of this core right now - so full details won't be out until we have everything finalized (US sourced, so they've had similar virus delays as we have), but will be out shortly. Won't be the lightest - but that wasn't our goal.
RES
BG just the change in core profile/layup.
CD no change.
WRENEGADE
Wren 96 Ti and 108 Ti will be able to be ordered on custom if you want them (just email us), but we won't be stocking them. Sales on the Woodsman have been so good that we're pretty all in on that line.
Wren going ironically a bit back to where it was. 2 skis - 102 Ti and 110 Pro.
110 Pro is 186cm only, older rocker profile, big radius. Likely a preorder type deal for it as I only expect to build them 1x per year. We love the brand and the original intention of the skis, so this is about as true to that as we've had since we cut the 113.
102 has a tighter radius than 108, a bit more tip taper, and we moved the mount point on the 179/184 back about 1cm each. 189cm mount stayed the same.
I've been pretty clear that I think for most skiers the TI is best on a ski seeing lots of hard snow, hence the focus on a width that is going to see more use in harder conditions.
WOODSMAN
Woodsman gets new width - 102.
96 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
108 gets minor sidecut tweak + new core profile/layup.
116 gets minor sidecut tweak, flex made a bit softer + new core profile/layup.
Moved the mount point back 0.75cm across the line.
Flex on 177/182 made a bit softer in all widths.
JEFFREY
Jeffrey gets new width - 102.
96 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
108 gets new core profile/layup.
116 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
TI on CUSTOM
Woodsman 96/102/108 and Jeffrey 96/102/108 will be available with Titanal on custom.
We hadn't planned bringing metal to the BG because I just truly don't know who that would be for, but if there is interest we could make it happen.
MAGNUS
Magnus profile updated to give a bit more stiffness behind the heal.
Shape unchanged.
On custom, the Magnus 102 will be able to be ordered fully edgeless.
MERA
New women's Woodsman-variant called the Mera - comes in 102 to start. 162/167/172.
JESSIE
Jessie 108 goes custom only (+ new core profile/layup), and adds a 102.
Updated radius on the 96 + new core profile/layup.
GRAPHICS
3 new custom camo tops/bases.
Update to all the team tops/bases so the colors are now see thru to show the carbon layup.
Limited quantity Hackel and Mango Team skis coming (Magnus 102 with their own tops/bases).
5 new sidewall colors (blue, yellow, orange, coral, aqua + existing green/white/black).
I think that covers most of it for now. Custom should be up this week now that we're finally returning to normal work. Stock line will be released in parts over the coming month so we have a reason to keep people entertained for a bit (spring promo content all feel through for obvious reasons).
r00kieDepending on just how much tighter the turn radius is, Woodsman 96 with Ti just might be my next groomer ripper.
jcaWell that didnt work...
Here's a copy and paste:
Since it seems everyone is getting a bit restless, and we're close to dropping the start of the custom sale, happy to start talking about what is coming.
TOUR SKIS
Stocked tour skis will be BG Tour, BG 108 Tour, Woodsman 108 Tour, Jeffrey 108 Tour.
On custom, those options will expand out slightly to the Woodsman 96/102, Jeffrey 102.
We have a 189cm BG 108 Tour coming, but that length was one that we went back and forth on, so will see if there is enough interest to keep it around after 1 year. The BG 108 will be available in all 3 layups on custom, but only stocked in the Tour Layup.
CUSTOM LAYUP OPTIONS
We have 3 layup options coming.
Stock layup is using a new custom hybrid glass/carbon composite we've been working on a few years. This is for several reasons - primarily that it is a stronger bonding material than takes the uni-carbon off the core, in place of solid 45/45 glass, is heavier in its overall weight and thus has allows us to drop some weight on our cores (with the virus slow down, we're behind hundreds of skis, so the final weights for all the new skis are still being worked on, but in skis that were running 22oz fiberglass we're seeing a drop of about 100 grams/ski), and saves us a bit of production time as its only one material to prep (though cost sort of negates that). This change is across the board, so we did see a slight increase in weight in some of the 19oz based skis (specifically the Magnus). A lot stronger though, so worth the slight weight increase IMO.
50/50 is our new tour specific core, same composites, but also build with our stock base / edge. This is a custom only option.
Lastly Tour is our new tour specific core, same composites, but sigh....also thinner base and edge. 1.4mm 4001 base still - so not a huge drop from 1.8mm - but a narrower edge too. The weight savings were just too much to ignore. This is the layup that will be used on the standard ski line tour skis.
We're still getting pricing and finalizing the supply of this core right now - so full details won't be out until we have everything finalized (US sourced, so they've had similar virus delays as we have), but will be out shortly. Won't be the lightest - but that wasn't our goal.
RES
BG just the change in core profile/layup.
CD no change.
WRENEGADE
Wren 96 Ti and 108 Ti will be able to be ordered on custom if you want them (just email us), but we won't be stocking them. Sales on the Woodsman have been so good that we're pretty all in on that line.
Wren going ironically a bit back to where it was. 2 skis - 102 Ti and 110 Pro.
110 Pro is 186cm only, older rocker profile, big radius. Likely a preorder type deal for it as I only expect to build them 1x per year. We love the brand and the original intention of the skis, so this is about as true to that as we've had since we cut the 113.
102 has a tighter radius than 108, a bit more tip taper, and we moved the mount point on the 179/184 back about 1cm each. 189cm mount stayed the same.
I've been pretty clear that I think for most skiers the TI is best on a ski seeing lots of hard snow, hence the focus on a width that is going to see more use in harder conditions.
WOODSMAN
Woodsman gets new width - 102.
96 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
108 gets minor sidecut tweak + new core profile/layup.
116 gets minor sidecut tweak, flex made a bit softer + new core profile/layup.
Moved the mount point back 0.75cm across the line.
Flex on 177/182 made a bit softer in all widths.
JEFFREY
Jeffrey gets new width - 102.
96 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
108 gets new core profile/layup.
116 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
TI on CUSTOM
Woodsman 96/102/108 and Jeffrey 96/102/108 will be available with Titanal on custom.
We hadn't planned bringing metal to the BG because I just truly don't know who that would be for, but if there is interest we could make it happen.
MAGNUS
Magnus profile updated to give a bit more stiffness behind the heal.
Shape unchanged.
On custom, the Magnus 102 will be able to be ordered fully edgeless.
MERA
New women's Woodsman-variant called the Mera - comes in 102 to start. 162/167/172.
JESSIE
Jessie 108 goes custom only (+ new core profile/layup), and adds a 102.
Updated radius on the 96 + new core profile/layup.
GRAPHICS
3 new custom camo tops/bases.
Update to all the team tops/bases so the colors are now see thru to show the carbon layup.
Limited quantity Hackel and Mango Team skis coming (Magnus 102 with their own tops/bases).
5 new sidewall colors (blue, yellow, orange, coral, aqua + existing green/white/black).
I think that covers most of it for now. Custom should be up this week now that we're finally returning to normal work. Stock line will be released in parts over the coming month so we have a reason to keep people entertained for a bit (spring promo content all feel through for obvious reasons).
r00kieDepending on just how much tighter the turn radius is, Woodsman 96 with Ti just might be my next groomer ripper.
CatdickBojanglesAlso when did he post this? Might have to hop on the customs when they drop and pull the trigger on some finally.
brogoldenhairam I correct in reading that there will be a BG108 tour, with stock layup available custom? Shit i better start saving now.....
f100prerunnerI thought the current shape of the billy goat was pretty bad on ice, why would they make a 108 in the same shape? Unless it’s a different shape and I’m missing something...just curious
clindblomskierseems like the 108 is a touring ski, which are usually made to be light. I would assume that bringing it down from a 116mm to a 108mm ski would cut out a lot of weight which is probably the reason.
highpeakThere's still gonna be a normal BG tour at the 116 width. I dont own a BG but I have read a decent amount they're not great on ice so this will be interesting to see for sure
clindblomskiernot sure where your seeing the 116 bg tour. here's the official release: "Stocked tour skis will be BG Tour, BG 108 Tour, Woodsman 108 Tour, Jeffrey 108 Tour.
On custom, those options will expand out slightly to the Woodsman 96/102, Jeffrey 102.
We have a 189cm BG 108 Tour coming, but that length was one that we went back and forth on, so will see if there is enough interest to keep it around after 1 year. The BG 108 will be available in all 3 layups on custom, but only stocked in the Tour Layup."
highpeak"TOUR SKIS
Stocked tour skis will be BG Tour, BG 108 Tour, Woodsman 108 Tour, Jeffrey 108 Tour."
I assume BG tour is the 116 given it lists the 108 next
**This post was edited on May 21st 2020 at 9:59:47pm
f100prerunnerI thought the current shape of the billy goat was pretty bad on ice, why would they make a 108 in the same shape? Unless it’s a different shape and I’m missing something...just curious
jcaWhy are you touring on ice?
CatdickBojanglesMismatched topsheets in customs now? I can't find them, it would be sick to have one ski with a black topsheet and green base and the other ski with a green topsheet and black base.
r00kieMismatched bases would be dope. One iconic green and the other the older orange. Black top sheets. Beauty.
f100prerunner1.) it’s unavoidable sometimes
2.) I didn’t say I was touring on ice
3.) this somewhat alludes to the point I was making, why would they make a skinnier billy goat if it’s not too good on ice when they’re still making the full size BG Tour