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Is backyard summer setup worth it?

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bogust
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So recently I have been seriously considering a summer setup build and I want to know If other people think if its worth.

I also have a few questions.

1. how do you get fat pvc tubes for cheap

2. what's the shortest in run someone could make to hit a 10ft plus rail

3. do you really need to use artificial snow material like Msnow

4. could I make my setup on an asphalt driveway and put a down some mats so I don't get hurt.

(I know there's been a million threads on this topic, sorry)
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Mar 3 2020 9:27PM
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MoneyMakerMike
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bogustSo recently I have been seriously considering a summer setup build and I want to know If other people think if its worth.

I also have a few questions.

1. how do you get fat pvc tubes for cheap

2. what's the shortest in run someone could make to hit a 10ft plus rail

3. do you really need to use artificial snow material like Msnow

4. could I make my setup on an asphalt driveway and put a down some mats so I don't get hurt.

(I know there's been a million threads on this topic, sorry)

Why wouldn't you build one? You get to ski everyday in the summer and your rail progression will exponentially increase.

1. Check Craigslist for irrigation pvc, or ask construction sites for leftover pipe. If you can, honestly welding a shotgun rail is probably the best route. It works way better than pvc. Also I recommend having 2 10 foot rails at the leasr

2. Make it 6 feet or taller. Look at Jackson karsteters Instagram summer setup vids. I recommend building a drop in similar to his.

3. Msnow isn't necessary but works very well

4. You could build it on asphalt, but even with mats it would suck a lot more to fall on then grass. If you have grass definitely build it on grass.
Mar 3 2020 11:26PM
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skiP.E.I.
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I have found both PVC and metal suitable for rails at junk yards and construction waste piles.
You don't need artificial snow material but it's nicer than alternatives like astroturf. If there's an ice rink open year round near you and you have access to a vehicle with cargo space you can get snow at least to land on.
As far as a drop-in goes, make it as big as you can. The more speed you can possibly get the better since it makes expansion of your set up easier. You can use the set up year round too, so its not just an investment for a few months.
If you can avoid using the driveway, don't put it there. I'm sure if you live with anyone they would appreciate you not taking up driveway space too.
Definitely make a summer setup though. I learned 90% of the rail tricks I've ever done on a backyard setup.
Mar 3 2020 11:45PM
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theabortionator
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https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/1453/Build-A-Jib-101

Some decent threads, successes, and failures. Not bad to poke aroind in.

Also yes, it is worth it and you will learn mad tricks. Anything will slide if it's tall enough. Pvc is cheap af for smaller diameters at hone depot/lowes other wise CL or construction companies. I would skimp on deck over inrun length. What kind if size area are you working with? Good luck and god speed.
Mar 4 2020 4:09AM
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bogust
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MomAgainst4tniteWhy wouldn't you build one? You get to ski everyday in the summer and your rail progression will exponentially increase.

1. Check Craigslist for irrigation pvc, or ask construction sites for leftover pipe. If you can, honestly welding a shotgun rail is probably the best route. It works way better than pvc. Also I recommend having 2 10 foot rails at the leasr

2. Make it 6 feet or taller. Look at Jackson karsteters Instagram summer setup vids. I recommend building a drop in similar to his.

3. Msnow isn't necessary but works very well

4. You could build it on asphalt, but even with mats it would suck a lot more to fall on then grass. If you have grass definitely build it on grass.


I am willing to spend the money on Msnow but I have been told that orange constuction fenceing works just as well
Mar 4 2020 7:29AM
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Rparr
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bogustI am willing to spend the money on Msnow but I have been told that orange constuction fenceing works just as well


wrong, msnow is the best material you can use for the drop in. It is SO fast. For landing though anything works
Mar 4 2020 7:33AM
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bogust
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theabortionatorhttps://www.newschoolers.com/forum/1453/Build-A-Jib-101

Some decent threads, successes, and failures. Not bad to poke aroind in.

Also yes, it is worth it and you will learn mad tricks. Anything will slide if it's tall enough. Pvc is cheap af for smaller diameters at hone depot/lowes other wise CL or construction companies. I would skimp on deck over inrun length. What kind if size area are you working with? Good luck and god speed.


Im working with a driveway thats around 50 feet long I can pm you my address if you wanna see it from google earth
Mar 4 2020 7:33AM
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bogust
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Rparrwrong, msnow is the best material you can use for the drop in. It is SO fast. For landing though anything works


have you tried both on an in run.

**This post was edited on Mar 4th 2020 at 7:41:44am
Mar 4 2020 7:35AM
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k_tivnan
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i Would recommend Astro turf for a cheaper option but make sure you stretch it tight with no wrinkles and wet it. M snow works very well but is significantly more expensive. For pvc, just show up to a construction site or ask around. I ended up with 45 feet of pipe for free by just asking around.

hope this helps
Mar 4 2020 7:40AM
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backyardcracker
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my friend and i just build a 10 ft long, 4 inch pvc rail like 16 inches off the ground, idk where u are w rails but for us it works perfect.

also built a takeoff onto the rail out of wood, all we need is turf. planning on tossing some water and dish soap on it and just going for it.

honestly build whatever you can, it'll most likely be mad jank anyway
Mar 4 2020 8:21AM
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Rparr
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bogusthave you tried both on an in run.

**This post was edited on Mar 4th 2020 at 7:41:44am


yes, look at the summer setup video in my profile. My ramp was turf/lattice for a year before I replaced it with mSnow and used that for 3 years. Difference was night and day
Mar 4 2020 8:26AM
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theabortionator
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bogustIm working with a driveway thats around 50 feet long I can pm you my address if you wanna see it from google earth


50 feets sounds legit. Also if you need to move some of it, moving the rail and any turf for the landing when not using is easy.

All the ones I rode were turf or carpet. Msnow seems to be significantly faster but we dirtbagged it. Orange construction fence slide pretty good for drop in as well. Can combo that on some carpet gor drop and put whatever the best texture you want on the takeoff.

You dont really need to grip or turn on the drop.
Mar 4 2020 12:15PM
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bogust
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what is the best kind of astro turf to use on a setup
Mar 4 2020 7:18PM
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backyardcracker
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are you talking abt this stuff?



theabortionator50 feets sounds legit. Also if you need to move some of it, moving the rail and any turf for the landing when not using is easy.

All the ones I rode were turf or carpet. Msnow seems to be significantly faster but we dirtbagged it. Orange construction fence slide pretty good for drop in as well. Can combo that on some carpet gor drop and put whatever the best texture you want on the takeoff.

You dont really need to grip or turn on the drop.
Mar 4 2020 7:55PM
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bogust
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backyardcrackerare you talking abt this stuff?


Yeah, a guy on discord told me it worked great.

here's the image he sent me, the top part of the ramp is Msnow and lower part is orange construction fence thought it looked legit
Mar 4 2020 8:15PM
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alphie_cisar
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It’s definitely worth it I use white plastic lattice for the ramp and artificial grass as a landing it doesn’t hurt you skis and you learn so much
Apr 1 2020 11:35AM
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PsychicMigration
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construction sites are usually helpful but the best is new housing developments. I picked up some massive pipes of all sizes. I'm thinking about making one too but haven't got wood to make one yet. since the season is short where I live I think it will really help progression.
Apr 1 2020 2:02PM
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little1337
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bogustYeah, a guy on discord told me it worked great.

here's the image he sent me, the top part of the ramp is Msnow and lower part is orange construction fence thought it looked legit


I would switch them around and put the msnow on the lip to give your edges something to grip on
Apr 2 2020 7:55AM
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TravelingCircus
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You can get plenty of speed, by using PVC or other plastics on the top part of a drop in(when you need less control) as long as you stay flat base, then further down, you can add combos of plastic fence and indoor/outdoor or astro turf for more control(when you need to edge to spin on for example). Here's an old video at Andy's house showing what you can do with a bunch of free trash(you might have to buy screws or nails):
https://www.zapiks.com/meathead-backyard-jibbing.html

Apr 2 2020 11:18AM
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theabortionator
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Is it worth it? Can you work it? Put your skis down slide it and reverse it.
Apr 2 2020 12:20PM
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.frenchy
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for sure worth it, ive been seshing mine all week. just go to somewhere theyre doing construction and ask if they have any extra big tubes. thats what i did like 10 years ago and i still use the shit out of it
Apr 2 2020 7:52PM
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little1337
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.frenchyfor sure worth it, ive been seshing mine all week. just go to somewhere theyre doing construction and ask if they have any extra big tubes. thats what i did like 10 years ago and i still use the shit out of it


Ayy long time no see
Apr 2 2020 11:34PM
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.frenchy
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little1337Ayy long time no see


ayyyy nice to see you back homie
Apr 3 2020 1:37AM
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bogust
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The referenced post has been removed.

Im actually building one rn and so far I have picked up some 15 foot 8 inch pvc pipes off some guy on facebook marketplace, a bunch of 2x4s from a construction site bc there so insanely expensive to buy. I also used thin tree trunks I cut down as platform support, 1x8s to deck the thing and some 14 foot 2x10s to support the inrun. Im going to use turf to make the ski surface because msnow is super expensive and my inrun is huge.
May 20 2021 7:36AM
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karsongreasegod
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bogustSo recently I have been seriously considering a summer setup build and I want to know If other people think if its worth.

I also have a few questions.

1. how do you get fat pvc tubes for cheap

2. what's the shortest in run someone could make to hit a 10ft plus rail

3. do you really need to use artificial snow material like Msnow

4. could I make my setup on an asphalt driveway and put a down some mats so I don't get hurt.

(I know there's been a million threads on this topic, sorry)

So I would 100% reccomed getting a summer setup. 1. I dont know either going to try to find some at construction site. 2. depends on material. 3. msnow is probably the best option for synthetic snow however lattice, pvc board, and turf work great if msnow is not in your budget. 4. I wouldn't make it on asphat grass and dirt is forgiving asphalt will hurt even with mats.
The white stuff is pvc board it works great however lil bit sketchy but super fast when wet and soap. Turf is good when its wet but when it is dry you cannot move on it.
May 24 2021 5:52PM
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isaacwrong
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It is 100% worth it if you are young have no responsibilities and want to progress and learn some new rail tricks 10/10 would recommend and is actually how I can now practically only throw kfeds
May 24 2021 7:42PM
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bsurf
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I wish I had a big enough backyard for one
May 24 2021 7:54PM
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mikemac
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honestly wish i would've put more time into this as a middle/high school kid. So many bored summers playing halo when you could be progressing. Even if you cant get the drop in dialed step ons are legit asf. Some of the most talented rail skiers I know spent their youthful summers practicing swaps and surfaces with literal zero speed step ons - practicing that grip, pop and swivel without having an in-run
DO IT!!
May 24 2021 9:37PM
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theabortionator
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pradaI wish I had a big enough backyard for one


Tell your parents you need to knock down part of the house, borrow a skid steer and send it. I dont see how anything bad could happen.
May 25 2021 12:41AM
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asparagus
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mikemachonestly wish i would've put more time into this as a middle/high school kid. So many bored summers playing halo when you could be progressing. Even if you cant get the drop in dialed step ons are legit asf. Some of the most talented rail skiers I know spent their youthful summers practicing swaps and surfaces with literal zero speed step ons - practicing that grip, pop and swivel without having an in-run
DO IT!!


step ons are godly for how easier they are to set up
May 25 2021 9:40AM
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bertBertson
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mikemacSome of the most talented rail skiers I know spent their youthful summers practicing swaps and surfaces with literal zero speed step ons - practicing that grip, pop and swivel without having an in-run
DO IT!!

Holy shit how did I not realize I can just take any of my backyard rails and do this exact thing all summer until reading your post... Time up up my rail game!
May 25 2021 3:46PM
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