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MXmx
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I’m trying to teach someone to ski. She starts off good leaning with her shins against her boots then gets scared and falls leaning back.

Any tips on how to teach correct posture and maintain it?

Thanks.
Feb 28 2020 8:12PM
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Guesstimate
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Used to be CSIA certified and my best advice is to send her to a professional instructor.

I could write out how to do it here but they'll just benefit WAY more actually working with a certified instructor.
Feb 28 2020 8:19PM
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MXmx
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That’s the problem, she went to a instructor at big bear for 3 days of classes. We even are doing the whole hold a pole horizontally in front of her trick.

She will have good posture at first then not maintain it.
GuesstimateUsed to be CSIA certified and my best advice is to send her to a professional instructor.

I could write out how to do it here but they'll just benefit WAY more actually working with a certified instructor.
Feb 28 2020 8:28PM
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ASSholebomber22
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Tell them to get in an althetic stance, like you're ready to catch a dodgeball thrown at you. Once the stance is good and down, show them how they can turn by putting pressure on your big toe. This, along with holding poles horizontal in front, can help keep beginners out of the back seat.
Feb 28 2020 9:00PM
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saucy+steve
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She's a natural swerve skier... embrace it
Feb 28 2020 9:09PM
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MXmx
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I’ll try that. Thanks!
BiffbarfTell them to get in an althetic stance, like you're ready to catch a dodgeball thrown at you. Once the stance is good and down, show them how they can turn by putting pressure on your big toe. This, along with holding poles horizontal in front, can help keep beginners out of the back seat.
Feb 28 2020 9:21PM
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MXmx
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She’ll probably just stop going or hang out in the chalet if she can’t get this.
saucy+steveShe's a natural swerve skier... embrace it
Feb 28 2020 9:22PM
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c-fries
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BiffbarfTell them to get in an althetic stance, like you're ready to catch a dodgeball thrown at you. Once the stance is good and down, show them how they can turn by putting pressure on your big toe. This, along with holding poles horizontal in front, can help keep beginners out of the back seat.


This. I'm a ski instructor: PSIA certified narc (don't get me started on that scam). Anyway, I tell kids to pretend that someone is going to push them over on the playground. Automatically they get in an athletic stance: shins front of boots, chest slightly ahead, upper body angle matches angle of shins, hands ahead too (even tho ridin with the hands in the pockets looks way sicker).

A good mental trick is to tell them that every time they get scared and want to go into the backseat (which they will do without knowing) that they need to think "mean." that it's them vs. the terrain, nobody else, and they're gonna win that fight.

**This post was edited on Feb 28th 2020 at 9:37:02pm
Feb 28 2020 9:36PM
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iced
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MXmxI’m trying to teach someone to ski. She starts off good leaning with her shins against her boots then gets scared and falls leaning back.

Any tips on how to teach correct posture and maintain it?

Thanks.


hands on thighs entire time to keep weight forward + bend knees

large turns till skiing across the hill -- keep turning up the hill to slow down till you are at a comfortable speed then start the next turn

a good private instructor will help loads ... idk what dumb people downvoted the other guy

paying lots for a lesson tends to get people into game mode and face fears head on
Feb 28 2020 10:24PM
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r00kie
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c-friesThis. I'm a ski instructor: PSIA certified narc (don't get me started on that scam).

**This post was edited on Feb 28th 2020 at 9:37:02pm

Fine then, I'll be the narc that gets the rant started.
PSIA sucks the fun out of skiing by tellings students and their own instructors that being a "good" skier is making perfect symetrical dynamic turns on a groomed trail. Nothing else matters. Also, I love getting some of my coworkers worked up about park skis. Apparently there is no way to be a "good" skier on them.

**This post was edited on Feb 28th 2020 at 10:31:40pm
Feb 28 2020 10:29PM
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c-fries
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r00kieFine then, I'll be the narc that gets the rant started.
PSIA sucks the fun out of skiing by tellings students and their own instructors that being a "good" skier is making perfect symetrical dynamic turns on a groomed trail. Nothing else matters. Also, I love getting some of my coworkers worked up about park skis. Apparently there is no way to be a "good" skier on them.

**This post was edited on Feb 28th 2020 at 10:31:40pm

Goddammit this is the truest shit I’ve read in a while. This should probably be the subject of a separate thread but yes. This shit is unbelievable. There is no way to be a “good” skier on anything over 84 under foot (yes this is something PSIA loves to let you know), skiing like a robot is the correct way to ski, poles should be at least 130 cm in length, and the only thing that matters in skiing is proper form, not fun.
Feb 28 2020 11:53PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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c-friesGoddammit this is the truest shit I’ve read in a while. This should probably be the subject of a separate thread but yes. This shit is unbelievable. There is no way to be a “good” skier on anything over 84 under foot (yes this is something PSIA loves to let you know), skiing like a robot is the correct way to ski, poles should be at least 130 cm in length, and the only thing that matters in skiing is proper form, not fun.


I will fuck up any PSIA fucker on my 194 112 underfoot skis. Snowbird, anytime anyplace. Let's fuck baldy up.
Feb 29 2020 12:01AM
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elcheapo
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I had this invention a while back and anybody is welcome to it ,put eye bolts in the ski tips and one in the helmet and attach bungie cords
Feb 29 2020 1:13AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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shes just trying to tail butter but youre ruining her vibe
Feb 29 2020 1:19AM
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r00kie
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BigPurpleSkiSuitI will fuck up any PSIA fucker on my 194 112 underfoot skis. Snowbird, anytime anyplace. Let's fuck baldy up.

Lets just say my kartel 108s look very out of place in the closet at work. Stopped get shit for it after I showed up at race night and beat half the field on em
Feb 29 2020 3:48AM
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MXmx
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You ski baldy? I’m there every Sunday to get a break from mountain high.
r00kieLets just say my kartel 108s look very out of place in the closet at work. Stopped get shit for it after I showed up at race night and beat half the field on em
Feb 29 2020 6:02AM
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r00kie
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MXmxYou ski baldy? I’m there every Sunday to get a break from mountain high.


That ve the dream, unfortunately I'm in Michigan.
Feb 29 2020 7:03AM
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MXmx
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I don’t know why I thought baldy was your home mountain.

I grew up in Minnesota where there are virtually no mountains. There’s been a few Olympic slalom skiers that learned where I used to work/ learned to ski (buck hill). With park you don’t need tons of space and elevation, plus you have those Boone resorts which I heard were good.
r00kieThat ve the dream, unfortunately I'm in Michigan.
Feb 29 2020 12:10PM
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bennwithtwons
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find a mellower pitch trail. she is probably picking up too much speed and feeling tense. go onto something really flat so she can build confidence. ramp up the steepness VERY slowly
Mar 1 2020 1:30PM
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