Should indebted college students in america simply say “fuck you college, im not paying my loans back”

DolanReloadedCollege professors literally lecture students things like “testosterone and estrogen are imaginary things that sexist bigots use to make up false differences between the genders”

cyphershave you been to college, dolan?

TnskiWhat would trump do

cyphershave you been to college, dolan?

TheMoostafianI can never tell if this guy is serious. Pretty sure he’s the greatest troll in the world.

Afghan_kushDolans the fucking man that’s who he is

TnskiWell, Bernie does say he'll pay off college tuition so maybe time to break up with trump although Bernie's is kinda a goofy goofball.

TnskiWhat would trump do

supersquidThats the issue with going to college and getting a useless degree. So many people graduate with tons of debt and a degree that has no feasible way of making a good living. You got me bent if you think my tax dollars should go towards some one’s $120,000 degree in linguistics or liberal arts.

no offense if you majored in any of these, they were just the first that came to mind. Those specific ones might have a market, I really dont know. But you get the point.

Afghan_kushFuck college, your a fuck if you go

Butterytips69At least they teach us when to use the correct you're

TnskiHahaha, that's funny he declares bankruptcy ar the drop of a hat, maybe theres the answer. Lol

GrandThingsSo I believe I'm one of the more liberal people who comes on this site. But Student Loans and loan forgiveness are the one area where I feel no empathy at all. That shit is on you. You were the one who agreed to take on these loans and dug your own fucking grave and additionally, there are SO many way's to avoid this.

I come from a low income family and because of this, busted my ass in high-school to make sure I could get into universities that were need-blind admissions and had large endowments able to help me afford an expensive private education. I applied for every fucking scholarship under the sun, (including taking the SAT's three times to meet the honors-student bars), and worked on-campus all four years of school. I graduated with ~40k in student loans and paid that shit off within my first 5 years out of school. (The general rule of thumb is to never take on more loans than you could potentially make in a first-year salary)

Again, I know things are different for everyone, but the vast majority of people graduating with $100k plus of student loans are just lazy fucks who dont know how to use the system and dont want to try.

BST_PoliceYeah I have to agree with this. First off people who go to school and accrue $100k in loans for art school are stupid. So many people at my school I wondered this about. I went to a private school because I got early acceptance into my program and wasn't gonna risk it elsewhere. But otherwise fuck private schools and their cost. Public all the way. Some majors it's unavoidable though to accrue lots of loans. $90k of my loans are from my last 2 years where scholarships aren't allowed--absolutely garbage. The other years I had half my tuition in scholarships, cuz unfortunately there were no full rides unless one played sports.

BST_PoliceStudent loans don't dissolve with bankruptcy so essentially once you sign that line. They're yours for good

GrandThingsYeah like I said, it really is different for everyone and there are certainly ways people can get unjustly fucked over. I just get pissed at the people who put themselves in their own shit situation without realizing they did it to themselves, (for example people who go to ASU for four years, party the whole time, pay full tuition and then complain that their communications degree cant land them a job with a high enough salary to pay back loans.)

Just curious tho, what major are/were you and what school did you go to? I've never heard of a school changing tuition costs based on major? I have two liberal arts degree's so I'm assuming this is related to engineering or some sort of science track?

CaseyFrom what I have seen a lot of kids of wealthy families do this. They finish their 4 year, their parents are loaded so they don’t pay for their tuition out of some principled idea of making their kids more self reliant, but the kids know this is all a facade, their families float their rent and living expenses so they rack up another 100k in graduate school because they don’t like their job prospects as an undergrad with no experience and they think they can be a career student and bypass all the corporate climbing because if they get educated enough they think they should be able to walk on as a big shot working for some bullshit non-profit some day.

Most people that I know that are working class or middle class have not had the luxury of never thinking about money in their entire lives, so in general they make more pragmatic decisions about their education because they don’t have the luxury to live in a fantasy world of perma-student.

I would argue that tuition is not the biggest barrier to entry for poor people to get into college. There are a lot of ways around that. The hardest thing is that free college or not, people still have to work all day long to eat and pay rent- there are only so many hours in the day, and without people around you to pick up slack and support you it’s really tough.

Afghan_kushFuck college, your a fuck if you go

finderErasing student loans may be a bit of a shit show, but I don't think going from k-12 to k-16 is that radical of an idea.

DeebieSkeebiesdidnt the current student loan crisis and schooling crisis kinda start because of people not paying their loans back?

midwesternmaniacHave professors been confirmed to be saying that t/e are made up? Because if that's the case that's a new level of delusion

skiermanOh fantastic, he's now making threads that read like a Trump supporter version of mad libs.

Wow, hot take, bruh. I can't wait to see what stupid ass rant you copy and paste next.

BST_PoliceAnd this is why American gov is trillions in debt, because we don't even have to pay our loans back fully lol

Lonelyah yes the 1.5 trillion dollars in student debt is why we are 23.3 trillion dollars in debt. good take

BST_PoliceI was referring more towards the mindset and general policies of our government. Obviously student loans aren't everything but it's still a good chunk too

*TURBONERD*Idk the ideology of imperialism, number of military bases the US has worldwide, and the percent of federal spending that goes to the military/‘national security’ seems like more of an issue.

Twinjibber77I definitely agree with a lot of this because I believe the misuse of these funds is absurd. At the same time, it always comes up during student loan discussions and I'm picking national defense over people taking out whack ass loans every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Twinjibber77I definitely agree with a lot of this because I believe the misuse of these funds is absurd. At the same time, it always comes up during student loan discussions and I'm picking national defense over people taking out whack ass loans every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

*TURBONERD*That makes sense, but the idea that we need to spend anywhere near this money to actually be safe from foreign attacks is absolutely ludicrous. The reason that there hasn't been any sort of coherent military offensive on American soil since Pearl Harbor is because America is the aggressor in just about every single conflict it's involved in. You could slash well over half of military expenditure by just closing foreign bases and American citizens would arguably be safer because the likelihood of terrorism motivated by American occupation would decrease. Also, part of the reason student loans are so high is because of the existence of private college. If education were guaranteed K-16 (or even had pricing capped at a comparable cost for "grades 13-16 to most western European nations) the government would effectively be spending less on higher education than it is now by way of loans so that people can attend college in the current system. Trade school should also be a key part of that guaranteed education as an option, though.

DolanReloadedMeh.
america is like the only guy at the bar with a gun (the military) so every other person (nation) in the bar is buying american guy drinks (loans to america) but american guy never has to pay these other guys back because he has a gun and nobody shakes down a guy with a gun.



so as long as america has the military strength to anally punish any other country that fucks with us, we will be a wealthy nation. Europeans dont buy shitty american cars, so we need to sell them our military protection. Trump is on the ball with being transparent about the fact that nation leaders dont hold hands and suck dicks at their meetings. The reason iran doesnt invade saudia arabia or the uae isnt because they care what other countries think of them and it would be impolite—they dont invade because americas military would stick a spinning chainsaw up their asses. The world will continue to pay america for keeping the peace, and without that we will be on our way to becoming a second world country, just like every other country in the world that cant produce technology good enough for other countries to buy.

*TURBONERD*I know you’re a troll and all, but it still needs to be said that the idea that the US has done anything other than destabilize the Middle East since the 1950s is laughable.