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Theory on why Full Tilts dont fit right
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So the common problem that ice seen over the years with people riding in full tilts (myself included) is that when bending forward the heel of the skier lifts up from the bottom of the boot, even when the boot is appropriately sized and sometimes molded to the skier. This problem is far more prevalent in FT's than any other boot ive seen (I also fit peoples ski boots at a shop). I believe the root cause of this is the design ethos of FT, by having a ribbed tongue the boot does not cave in at the ankle of the skier. while FT markets this as a good thing, it would seem that the caving in at the ankle is necessary to some degree to retain the ankle of the skier. This would explain why all the other manufactures have steered clear of this design philosophy for the most part.
Idk it was just a thought.
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Idk man my Twalls are 2 sizes too small (I bought them for that reason) and when I have them cranked all the way I notice zero heel lift whatsoever.
What really helped for this though was getting shorter middle cables. Makes my ankle feel super secure and it doesn’t move at all.
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If the heel is lifting then the boot is not properly sized.
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How much does your heel come up op?
i have never liked the fit of full tilts, they seem better suited to somebody that has cankles.
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I’ve owned 3 pairs and don’t have any heel lift unless my buckles are locked in but not closed
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This is why people say to go to a boot-fitter. There are so many elements to fitting boots other than just the mondo size and last. Instep height and heel size and shape are paramount to getting an actually good fitting ski boot, not one that feels "comfy" in the store. Along with that, proper, well made footbeds absolutely help control the foot in the boot and stop it from moving as much in all planes.
Full tilts are a good option for some, but not all. The same can be said for any and every boot, some people get alone great with a Lange RX 130 LV but for others that boot would suck.
Going to a good boot-fitter and listening to what they say is very important, and there is a reason why they charge more than an online retailer.
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more like people just buy full tilts without actually seeing a bootfitter.
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4 clicks on the bottom clip and no human shall have heel lift in full tilts
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When an overlap boot flex’s the heel and midsole area actually get wider so that kind of goes against your theory I’m afraid.
In general having the 45degree instep buckle actually does help really pull in the heel back to help keep in located in the boot.
Most of the time heel lift will be due to one of two things. Boots too big/wrong shape or the heel is sat too low in the boot.
the first is pretty obvious, if the boot is too big it can’t properly hold the foot. The second people can overlook. If you have a limited amount of forward flex or you have a tighter calf/Achilles tendon you may still get heel lift in a well fitted boot. This is because if you have limited flex your heel will always lift when the knee gets to a certain point forward. Heel lifts and stretching can help this.
**This post was edited on Feb 22nd 2020 at 8:27:47pm
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