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Local hill banned inverts

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MilkPlanet
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I feel ready to start trying some inverted tricks, and of course my hills is one of those that has straight up banned them, and I'll have to wait until next season until they're "not recommended". Any advice what I should do until then? It's a small hill, less than 100 acres, and nowhere that is out of sight from staff. Even if you don't have advice, what're your thoughts on the banning of inverted tricks? It's been an issue at hills hills for a while from what I've heard.

**This thread was edited on Jan 25th 2020 at 1:09:38pm
Jan 25 2020 10:28AM
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ReturnToMonkey
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Go inverted anyway
Jan 25 2020 10:43AM
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MilkPlanet
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ConesForBreakfasGo inverted anyway

And get my pass revoked? No thanks.
Jan 25 2020 10:44AM
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crustyboot.420
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Pussy
Jan 25 2020 11:49AM
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tri_photo
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The fact that resorts feel that they have the right to keep skiers and boarders from learning and progressing makes my blood boil. Sorry that you have to deal with this.
Jan 25 2020 12:19PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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just offset the invert by doing it the other way
Jan 25 2020 12:20PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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TRVP_ANGELjust offset the invert by doing it the other way

Backflip -> knucke -> frontflip
Jan 25 2020 12:55PM
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NateDude
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Did someone's mom complain or what?
Jan 25 2020 1:15PM
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SPK_
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They didn't specify in which frame of reference it is forbidden to get inverted tho.
Jan 25 2020 2:34PM
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steezbox
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If anyone asks just say it was reeeeally corked.
Jan 25 2020 2:45PM
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KilaTsunami
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idk, i guess just spins? lock 'em all down, and then learn un-naturals. Maybe once they know u and see that you're in control they wont bother u about flipping?

or just find a new hill haha
Jan 25 2020 3:20PM
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270on420out
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Just do them anyway. Keep an eye out for patrol and if they say something just say you didn’t know
Jan 25 2020 3:51PM
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theabortionator
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At oak where i grew up building jumps was illegal and Im pretty sure inverts were too. I got kicked off the mtn a few times snd bitched at by ski pstrol on the reg but yolo. We didnt have a park and inverts are fun.


I remember gore being the same way. At the gumly nobody gave a fuck. But would get hassled sometimes in the reg parks once the gully wasnt a thing anymore. Have a video somewhere of us doing a 6+ person backflip train while a bunch of the cool patrollers watched.

Idk, dont get your pass pulled but dont think you can use it as an excuse for the "Id totally cork or flip but they said I can't".

Also it's the dumbest fucking rule, i remember doing flips in the trees over a sketchy rock pile because we wouldnt get seen instead of a park jump. Actually the jumps there were probably sketchier than said rock pile and trees.

Mtns that have no invert rules need to get their heads out of their asses. This isn't 1995. They probably have snowboard leash laws and ban skiers from hitting the "snowboard park" too.
Jan 25 2020 4:19PM
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theabortionator
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Also "cool starry bro" from gore. Rail jam 07 at the ski bowl. Buddy switches my ipod to rage against the machine. Jamison duffy either eent for his run or poached and through a backflip off the side of the wallride. We got yemled at about the inversion snd profsnity in the music.

Also at mount jore circa 05 I believe. Collin hunter poached the big air and laid out s sick backflip but caught his tips and knocked himself the fuck out bad. Im pretty sure a picture made it in the newspaper.

Plenty of OGs throwing down back then. Matty B was a local getting his cork 7s in on sleighride. Plenty of corks, fronts, backs, lincolns, and a few dub flips. And inverts were never legal. Mgmt differs everywhere but if you feel the itch to turn your world upside down, fucking send it son.

If not get the old sledding hill booter going after a snow storm, or rock a snowbank booter. Don't let the man keep you bases down.
Jan 25 2020 4:29PM
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k_tivnan
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Hike up after the day is done and huck your meat.
Jan 25 2020 4:39PM
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WisconsinDogfart
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It sucks, but I think it’s an insurance thing.
Jan 25 2020 6:01PM
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b0ss
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Just backflip and say its a flat 3
Jan 25 2020 6:35PM
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b0ss
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Just backflip and say its a flat 3
Jan 25 2020 6:35PM
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theabortionator
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airmightydudeIt sucks, but I think it’s an insurance thing.


Usually insurance is pretty chill. A lot of places run signs that say helmets are recommended. I was talking to an insurance guy a bunch when I was back at a small place in the northeast and he was stoked that I had a smart style sign out and a more than reasonable fencing setup. I think a lot of the insurance things and "you need a license" and things stuff comes down to wives tales more than legit reasons. Honestly we didn't really have a big enough jump in the park to be too worried about inverts. Was a more rail focused setup. Inverts were possible, but not booters most people would try them on even if they could, and a lot of the people weren't people that were ever gonna huck one anyway.

Also I don't know how much that varies place to place and if it changes state to state etc. The biggest way people land on their head is not knowing how to hit a jump and trying to straight air. Most of the " I tried to backflips are" I tried to hit a jump and wooped my legs out from underneath myself and landed on my head. People can fuck themselves up going inverted, but it's pretty rare that somebody lands on their head actually going for a flip, even a dub.

Noobs hitting jumps, or the accidental cork ish are way more unforgiving than a botched flip generally. Then again wtf do I know. I just used to lap park all day and creep on people learning tricks to see how features rode and make sure people didn't die.
Jan 25 2020 6:58PM
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theabortionator
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Also for motivation. First backflips were on a 1/4 pipe I built on a rock. First frontflip at the resort was on some sketchy side hit and I knocked the wind out of myself with a back flop.

Idk, if you feel the need to flip your world upside down, it's worth it imo. Friggin send it my dude
Jan 25 2020 7:01PM
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ShadowXVX
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Do a flip.
Jan 25 2020 7:17PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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corks and rodeos aren't inverted.
Jan 25 2020 8:08PM
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Casey
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My childhood house came with a trampoline, scared the shit out of my parents... they were always like NO FLIPS we are gonna get sued by these neighbor kids. So we always did them secretly until one day I was like 12 and learned how to backflip 1080 and my dad was like huh that’s pretty impressive... I’m sorry this isn’t really relevant to your issue I just felt like telling a story.
Jan 25 2020 9:23PM
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JAHpow
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/952427/Which-Way-Is-Down-

Have them watch this. Then, as they're watching it, go do the invert.

**This post was edited on Jan 25th 2020 at 9:33:26pm
Jan 25 2020 9:33PM
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skierman_jack
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The place I frequent also has an invert ban. Like if you do a rod or a flat spin or something they don’t care (prob bc they don’t know what it is) but fronties or backies and they’ll pull your pass. Insurance reasons
Jan 25 2020 10:44PM
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MilkPlanet
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CaseyMy childhood house came with a trampoline, scared the shit out of my parents... they were always like NO FLIPS we are gonna get sued by these neighbor kids. So we always did them secretly until one day I was like 12 and learned how to backflip 1080 and my dad was like huh that’s pretty impressive... I’m sorry this isn’t really relevant to your issue I just felt like telling a story.

Sick story dude. That's pretty cool to learn in secrecy, glad your dad didn't freak out.
Jan 25 2020 11:04PM
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shin-bang
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Go out of bounds and build a jump? That’s what homies a did a while back when my
hill did the same thing.


if not, as someone else mentioned just focus on spins, grabs, and butters
Jan 25 2020 11:43PM
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partyandBS
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Sounds like you should move
Jan 26 2020 6:06AM
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J_Christoph
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This was always the story at my small home mountain. We built a lot of our own jumps on the more secluded runs and hiked them for hours. Rodeos and corks off the park jumps were usually always fine. Unless you ran into certain patrolman.
Jan 26 2020 10:17AM
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CalumSKI
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#getcorked
Jan 26 2020 12:48PM
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Lonely
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Better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
Jan 26 2020 4:06PM
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Young_patty
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elliotfitzgeraldAnd get my pass revoked? No thanks.


"whoops, sorry Mr.ski-patrol I swear I didn't mean to go corked on that 720 it just kinda happened (;_;)"
Jan 26 2020 4:45PM
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bRADon
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So what is stopping you from building a backyard jump or a jump at a local sledding hill or something? Can't just stop there and blame it on the ski hill. Go out there and get it.
Jan 27 2020 10:15AM
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HackerDuties
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I don't ever see Daniel Hanka getting inverted...theres loads of sick skiers out there that don't, get styleeeesh

You're only cutting out backies, fronties, wacks and lincons out of infinitely more tricks and axis.... I guess there's underflips and biranis too but if a patroller sees that it might throw him off and he might not know what happened?

**This post was edited on Jan 27th 2020 at 5:05:56pm
Jan 27 2020 4:38PM
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lil.Boye
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dude, that is completely fucked. whenever someone sent a fat backie at my local the staff would just cheer and give us a high 5 in the liftline
Jan 28 2020 3:45AM
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