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Moving out cause my landlord is a stalker

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AbiH
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Boy, I’ve only been in SLC for two weeks and my landlord is a quack. She has an indoor camera which I just discovered........ so she can see what’s going on in the house......... wtf.


anyhow, if you know anybody in salt lake area looking for a roommate let me know, gotta get out of this creep’s house.
Jan 14 2020 8:34PM
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Titus69
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Confront that bitch about it
Jan 14 2020 8:45PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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I’m not sure if that’s legal. I would report this.
Jan 14 2020 9:00PM
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GrapeHunter
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Take a picture of the room, print it out, and then tape it in front of the camera. She’ll never know the better 😈😈
Jan 14 2020 9:01PM
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JAHpow
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Um that is definitely not legal. You should report her.
Jan 14 2020 9:20PM
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OregonDead
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I would for sure call one of those investigative reporter types and smear that all over the news
Also call the police first because they put people in prison for that kind of bull shit
Jan 14 2020 10:19PM
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elcheapo
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Better yet get a lawyer and take her house
Jan 15 2020 1:40AM
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oldmanski
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Damn! That is messed up! Get the heck out of that place!
Jan 15 2020 10:50AM
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vibecheck
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Lock her up
Jan 15 2020 10:54AM
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theabortionator
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Stage a fake murder or packages of fake drugs and see what she does.
Jan 15 2020 12:22PM
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WoFIowz
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100% illegal. You should be calling the cops in addition to a lawyer to press charges. You should demand at minimum any and all expenses you paid her for the apartment as possibly even more.

Please don't let this slide because it will continue to happen until someone does something. Think of all the bad karma if you don't report her. The next person and next will be violated of their privacy
Jan 15 2020 1:33PM
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OregonDead
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BST_Police100% illegal. You should be calling the cops in addition to a lawyer to press charges. You should demand at minimum any and all expenses you paid her for the apartment as possibly even more.

Please don't let this slide because it will continue to happen until someone does something. Think of all the bad karma if you don't report her. The next person and next will be violated of their privacy


I think I would ask for all my rent and deposit back plus $. You basically ended up getting a different product than what you paid for. You paid for a private place and instead get broadcast on some creepy cam

Seems creepier and creepier the more I think about it actually

Post pictures of the camera etc. and let us know when it blows up in the news because it will blow up big if this is for real
Jan 15 2020 1:45PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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Nothing scares stalkers more than putting a camera to monitor their camera.
Jan 15 2020 2:19PM
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ASSholebomber22
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Titus69Confront that bitch about it


I would not do this. Let a laywer or the police confront the landlord first so there's no chance to get rid of evidence.

Op, let us know how this plays out. Contact the police and a lawyer asap.
Jan 15 2020 3:23PM
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AbiH
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so I confronted her the night I found it. To clarify, it is not hidden but I wasnt told about it and did not find it until 2 weeks in... She spatted off all the reasons she needed it in there which is bs. She also said it was in the contract, which is was most definitely not. She also failed to mention that there were 5 people in the house instead of 4, and one of them is a loud mother and 3 year old daughter, she also failed to mention that there was a full grown pit bull in the house. She has a total of 8 cameras around the house, that I was unaware of until she told me not to park where I was parking one day.... which she saw through the camera. I called the non-emergency line and they said that it was legal as long as it was in a common area, which I think is incorrect, especially if she didn't tell me about it..... The other roommates don't seem to have a problem with it, but I most definitely do. I think I am going to ask for all of my rent back.....
Jan 16 2020 12:01AM
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dudesh1t
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call the cops. seriously, what your landlord is doing is illegal.
Jan 16 2020 12:02AM
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elcheapo
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Ya get the police over to document it fir all you know y'all could be on some live feed internet website. The lady sounds like a nutjob control freak and you should be compensated for you privacy being violated.
Jan 16 2020 12:15AM
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OregonDead
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So yeah a common area in a building is probably legal but tenant harrasment is not . Good luck though. Unfortunately you probably don't have much rights except to cut your losses and bail
Jan 16 2020 2:13AM
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WoFIowz
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Wait.... So you're in a shared house or apartment? Cuz if it's a house and your landlord lives there that wouldn't be all too crazy. Many folks have cameras in their houses these days

If it's an apartment that's fucked up. If your landlord doesn't live there, also fucked up.
Jan 16 2020 3:40AM
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AbiH
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It’s a house, and she doesn’t live there.
Jan 16 2020 9:09AM
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CatdickBojangles
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So I used to install a lot of camera systems and the biggest way to get around the "it is in a common area" thing is to find out if she is recording audio. It is highly illegal in most states (keyword most check your local states laws) to record audio without some sort of warning. Obviously doesn't apply to any government agency.
Jan 16 2020 10:21AM
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SofaKingSick
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you said there are 8 cameras "around the house." where exactly are each of them? and she did not tell you they existed, and it's not in your lease or anything?

this kind of thing varies a lot obviously but if there are cameras in the space she is renting to you as a private residence, and she doesn't live there, and you didn't know about them, i would be surprised if she's not breaking any rules. lots of places require advance notice to enter the apartment (e.g. my landlord wants to check some pipes, she has to tell me X hours before she shows up), so why would you be allowed to have a video (and possibly audio) feed from inside?

i wouldn't say anything more to the landlord for now until you've done some homework, so if she is in the wrong she doesn't get spooked and fix her situation before you act

TL;DR can't say for sure but it sounds sketchy and you should definitely do some research and in the meantime pretend to the landlord that you're not thinking about it anymore
Jan 16 2020 10:40AM
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Willgum
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Did you pay a deposit? If you're intent on leaving:

Make sure to do all of your communication with her via email or text so that you have records, take extensive pictures of the camera and surrounding area. Also take pictures of your personal room to show there's no damage.

Have your lease on hand and sift through that shit to make sure there's no mention of a camera. Tell her you'll be moving out, cutting the lease early, etc... and that you'll need your deposit back once she confirms there's no damage to your room. Give her 30 days notice.

If she gives you shit about breaking the lease early, or she holds onto your deposit, tell her that you'll be filing a suit in civil court and that you have all supporting documents on hand. Don't be afraid to actually go to court, either. It's really not too intimidating and the time is worth getting your deposit back. As a landlord myself I'd probably just fork over the deposit if someone mentioned civil court.
Jan 16 2020 12:27PM
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PeppermillReno
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Look on the bright side at least you didn’t show up to Stowe only to have your epic employee pass cancelled. My skins are in the condo too.
Jan 16 2020 12:55PM
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AbiH
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The referenced post has been removed.

not home alot.... also apparently not observant...
Jan 17 2020 12:49AM
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AbiH
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After giving the situation that I have been put in more thought, it is entirely unacceptable. I am a very understanding person, but I will not have someone take advantage of me.



When I spoke with you about renting the house before I moved in you told gave me false information and left vital information out, intentional or not. This was information that would have most definitely caused me to decide against renting from you.



The following are reasons that it would be ethical for you to refund 100% of my deposit plus the prorated unused portion of this months rent are as follows;




Prior to arrival, you stated that there would be 4 tenants only. Not only were there 5 roommates, one of them was a three and a half year old child. The home is therefore loud and chaotic at all hours of the day. If I had known that there would have been a child in the home, I would have confidently declined to rent from you, regardless of how the child was behaved.




You failed to mention that there was a very large, commonly known for being an aggressive, dog breed.




You failed to mention MULTIPLE video cameras around the premises.




You failed to mention that there is a video camera INSIDE the home. This video camera inside the home is a complete invasion of privacy no matter where it is, or where it is pointed, and will most likely have legal ramifications in civil or federal court, and I currently have people working on that. Not anywhere in the contract does it state any information on video recording on the premises.



Again, I am requesting that you refund my full deposit, and the remainder of this month’s rent. So this situation will be behind us.



I would like to part on amicable terms if at all possible.



Opinions???? I haven't sent this yet....
Jan 17 2020 12:50AM
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Willgum
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The referenced post has been removed.


I disagree, the legal course of action should be Plan B. Going the legal route right off the bat introduces extra work ( and money) that can be avoided if Plan A works. Plan A would be:


Send a letter but shorten it WAY up. Take all emotion out of it. State the facts and that's it:


Dear xxx,

This letter is to notify you that as of xxx date, I will be vacating the residence at xxx address.

I am requesting my full security deposit back. The signed lease and our previous discussions were a misrepresentation of the living situation. Misrepresentations include:

- Number of tenants and nature of tenants.
- The presence of a large, potentially aggressive dog
- The presence of video cameras, including one interior camera.

These misrepresentations are considerable and material to our agreement, therefore breaching the contract (*Abi this is the key legal lingo so include this in the letter, maybe more than once).

I hope we can resolve this scenario quickly and cordially without the use of civil court.

Best,

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If she balks at this letter, THEN go to the courts.
Jan 17 2020 12:05PM
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GrandThings
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Literally copy and paste this and insert your examples.

This needs to be factual, not emotional. (I.e writing things like "this is a complete invasion of privacy" while true, does not actually bolster your case.)
Jan 17 2020 1:10PM
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elcheapo
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B Gillis has good advice, let an agency do the work but if it was me I'd probably dig a hole in the wall, cut the wires and patch it up real quick.
Jan 17 2020 2:48PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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AbiHAfter giving the situation that I have been put in more thought, it is entirely unacceptable. I am a very understanding person, but I will not have someone take advantage of me.



When I spoke with you about renting the house before I moved in you told gave me false information and left vital information out, intentional or not. This was information that would have most definitely caused me to decide against renting from you.



The following are reasons that it would be ethical for you to refund 100% of my deposit plus the prorated unused portion of this months rent are as follows;




Prior to arrival, you stated that there would be 4 tenants only. Not only were there 5 roommates, one of them was a three and a half year old child. The home is therefore loud and chaotic at all hours of the day. If I had known that there would have been a child in the home, I would have confidently declined to rent from you, regardless of how the child was behaved.




You failed to mention that there was a very large, commonly known for being an aggressive, dog breed.




You failed to mention MULTIPLE video cameras around the premises.




You failed to mention that there is a video camera INSIDE the home. This video camera inside the home is a complete invasion of privacy no matter where it is, or where it is pointed, and will most likely have legal ramifications in civil or federal court, and I currently have people working on that. Not anywhere in the contract does it state any information on video recording on the premises.



Again, I am requesting that you refund my full deposit, and the remainder of this month’s rent. So this situation will be behind us.



I would like to part on amicable terms if at all possible.



Opinions???? I haven't sent this yet....


Don’t send that, I’d do some revisions to make it more professional, factual, and to soften the tone.
Jan 17 2020 4:53PM
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Lemuel
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AbiHYou failed to mention that there was a very large, commonly known for being an aggressive, dog breed.


Are you living in 2005? People don't still believe pitbulls are dangerous do they?
Jan 18 2020 8:18AM
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Denseclouds
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WillgumI disagree, the legal course of action should be Plan B. Going the legal route right off the bat introduces extra work ( and money) that can be avoided if Plan A works. Plan A would be:


Send a letter but shorten it WAY up. Take all emotion out of it. State the facts and that's it:


Dear xxx,

This letter is to notify you that as of xxx date, I will be vacating the residence at xxx address.

I am requesting my full security deposit back. The signed lease and our previous discussions were a misrepresentation of the living situation. Misrepresentations include:

- Number of tenants and nature of tenants.
- The presence of a large, potentially aggressive dog
- The presence of video cameras, including one interior camera.

These misrepresentations are considerable and material to our agreement, therefore breaching the contract (*Abi this is the key legal lingo so include this in the letter, maybe more than once).

I hope we can resolve this scenario quickly and cordially without the use of civil court.

Best,

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If she balks at this letter, THEN go to the courts.


NS coming together like family
Jan 19 2020 11:57PM
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AbiH
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WillgumI disagree, the legal course of action should be Plan B. Going the legal route right off the bat introduces extra work ( and money) that can be avoided if Plan A works. Plan A would be:


Send a letter but shorten it WAY up. Take all emotion out of it. State the facts and that's it:


Dear xxx,

This letter is to notify you that as of xxx date, I will be vacating the residence at xxx address.

I am requesting my full security deposit back. The signed lease and our previous discussions were a misrepresentation of the living situation. Misrepresentations include:

- Number of tenants and nature of tenants.
- The presence of a large, potentially aggressive dog
- The presence of video cameras, including one interior camera.

These misrepresentations are considerable and material to our agreement, therefore breaching the contract (*Abi this is the key legal lingo so include this in the letter, maybe more than once).

I hope we can resolve this scenario quickly and cordially without the use of civil court.

Best,

-----------------


If she balks at this letter, THEN go to the courts.


Dang, I didn’t see this. I like the format/legal terms...

I sent her a more calmed down professional version of the one I put up, and she’s going to give me my money back..... so she says.... well see.
Jan 20 2020 1:55AM
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PeppermillReno
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Longer she waits less she owes you I’d politely keep reminding her daily.
Jan 20 2020 10:18AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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Bump. IS OP KILL?
Feb 10 2020 8:50PM
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ASSholebomber22
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TRVP_ANGELBump. IS OP KILL?

Hey bbg what kinda icecream you like
Feb 10 2020 9:42PM
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theabortionator
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Just put a picture in front of the camera

Feb 10 2020 9:53PM
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AbiH
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BiffbarfHey bbg what kinda icecream you like


He’s lactose intolerant, you insensitive swine.
Feb 11 2020 12:05AM
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WoFIowz
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TRVP_ANGELBump. IS OP KILL?


I read this as "is OP buzz kill?" read what you wanna see I guess
Feb 11 2020 12:06AM
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AbiH
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BST_PoliceI read this as "is OP buzz kill?" read what you wanna see I guess


Hahaha! I have no clue what he actually meant
Feb 11 2020 12:06AM
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ASSholebomber22
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AbiHHe’s lactose intolerant, you insensitive swine.


Damn if u wanted my snap all u hada do was ask
Feb 11 2020 12:10AM
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coolflash8
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BiffbarfDamn if u wanted my snap all u hada do was ask


based
Feb 11 2020 4:11AM
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HamFaceGirl
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film a porno with her

Is she hot???
Feb 11 2020 6:32PM
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iced
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HamFaceGirlfilm a porno with her

Is she hot???


re youe retardard
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