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I just skiied the BDog edgeless for 2 days. AMA

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-Dan
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Two days at mt snow. What do you wanna know?
Dec 22 2019 9:10PM
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Mtuhockey33
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Did you like.... take it off any sweet jumps or anything?
Dec 22 2019 10:02PM
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GayWolf420
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Thank you for your service, dan :)
Dec 22 2019 10:20PM
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*St4th0s*
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how do they handle ice? are they actually a breakthrough?
Dec 22 2019 10:54PM
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OregonDead
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Did you survive or can you just post on NS from the afterlife?
Dec 23 2019 12:44AM
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Lemuel
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Did you LB2?
Dec 23 2019 7:09AM
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-Dan
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Mtuhockey33Did you like.... take it off any sweet jumps or anything?

I took them off some jumps definitely. Nothing big, maybe 25ft. Handled fine, no different than a typical softer ski. Felt perfectly confident taking off and landing
Dec 23 2019 10:17AM
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-Dan
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*St4th0s*how do they handle ice? are they actually a breakthrough?


Ice isn’t handled it’s managed. Ice my landings were same experience as an edge ski. One very icy steep trail was just side slid thru when I encountered it. I feel like it was hardly different than how I would have skiied it otherwise.
Dec 23 2019 10:19AM
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-Dan
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OregonDeadDid you survive or can you just post on NS from the afterlife?

I thrived. Survival wasn’t even a concern
Dec 23 2019 10:20AM
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-Dan
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LemuelDid you LB2?

Yes. Only did one tho. I think it was pretty clean
Dec 23 2019 10:21AM
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CatdickBojangles
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Do they have edges?
Dec 23 2019 10:40AM
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GrandThings
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What do you use to keep your dreads back?

In all seriousness tho - would these really be able to serve as a daily park ski?
Dec 23 2019 10:43AM
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north_coast
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What makes these worth $500 instead of just ripping the rest of the edge out of my old beaters?
Dec 23 2019 10:54AM
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gravel
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north_coastWhat makes these worth $500 instead of just ripping the rest of the edge out of my old beaters?


for one probably sealed seams, you tear your old edges out and you have a huge crack for water to get inside, freeze, crack apart the construction. and you could seal that crack yourself but the shape wouldn’t be right
Dec 23 2019 12:52PM
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Tim.etter24
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I still dont know what edgeless is
Dec 23 2019 4:21PM
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skierman_jack
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Tim.etter24I still dont know what edgeless is


No edge. The base just continues until it meets the sidewall/cap. No metal.

In all seriousness how did it feel on rails? Slower?
Dec 23 2019 5:02PM
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-Dan
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GrandThingsWhat do you use to keep your dreads back?

In all seriousness tho - would these really be able to serve as a daily park ski?

I don’t personally see any major reason to ski these as your daily park ski though you absolutely could. I got these to slide aluminum rails and wood at street spots. I’ll likely have my Arv 96 for park skiing most of this season. Perhaps if you are someone who has major issues with breaking skis/edges there is a reason to ski these in the park. I personally don’t so much damage to skis.
Dec 23 2019 6:36PM
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-Dan
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SkylineGTR_R32No edge. The base just continues until it meets the sidewall/cap. No metal.

In all seriousness how did it feel on rails? Slower?

Nah I think same or faster on regular park rails. Or maybe just smoother.
Dec 23 2019 6:37PM
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Lemuel
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-DanYes. Only did one tho. I think it was pretty clean

Bush Sunday?
Dec 23 2019 7:09PM
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Biffbarf
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Can you actually get them 'on edge' and carve if the snow was soft enough? Or was that out of the question
Dec 23 2019 7:15PM
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-Dan
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LemuelBush Sunday?

I’m aiming for it. Gotta figure out when I’m going to my dads for Christmas tho
Dec 23 2019 7:24PM
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-Dan
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BiffbarfCan you actually get them 'on edge' and carve if the snow was soft enough? Or was that out of the question


Easy to ski and edge these on snow. I have had em on hard pack, slush, crust and solid ice. They can handle everything but the solid ice. On ice they really weren’t all much worse than your typical rounded used edge ski.
Dec 23 2019 7:28PM
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skierman_jack
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How do they wear in a park setting?
Dec 23 2019 7:35PM
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-Dan
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I’m not sure what you mean by how do they wear.
Dec 23 2019 7:40PM
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TOAST.
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toastfor one probably sealed seams, you tear your old edges out and you have a huge crack for water to get inside, freeze, crack apart the construction. and you could seal that crack yourself but the shape wouldn’t be right

Still don't see the point to these.
I think on every pair of skis I have owned I have skied more days on them with missing edge than full edge. Never really had an issue with the ski falling apart especially old line skis.
Dec 23 2019 7:55PM
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nellyyy
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-DanI’m not sure what you mean by how do they wear.


I might be overstepping, but maybe (and it's way too early to tell if you just got your pair) as you slide a bunch of rails, the base material will 'wear' in and you'll develop grooves underfoot from sliding rails? Maybe? Report back in March plz
Dec 23 2019 9:18PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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Would these be a good 50/50 touring ski for urban rails and pow?
Dec 23 2019 10:32PM
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gravel
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TOAST.Still don't see the point to these.
I think on every pair of skis I have owned I have skied more days on them with missing edge than full edge. Never really had an issue with the ski falling apart especially old line skis.


tbh i think they’re just an urban ski really. you don’t need edges in the street and it’s nicer on concrete and necessary on aluminum...
Dec 23 2019 11:19PM
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petrov
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TOAST.Still don't see the point to these.
I think on every pair of skis I have owned I have skied more days on them with missing edge than full edge. Never really had an issue with the ski falling apart especially old line skis.


A homie of mine used to literally rip the edge out of his skiis so he could get a "groove" after doing X amount of rails. His shit would last like 2-3 weeks before blowing out from water log and the topsheet splitting. This ski may not be for everyone but it definitely caters to a niche crowd that will enjoy it.
Dec 23 2019 11:52PM
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Sir_SkrillALot
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i dont understand the point of edges. its almost 2020 and we are using plastic and metal and wood to slide around? shouldnt there be like one material engineer here or TGR who can figure out how to make a base that doesnt get core shots and slides well and is the same as the edge material
Dec 24 2019 3:14AM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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Sir_SkrillALoti dont understand the point of edges. its almost 2020 and we are using plastic and metal and wood to slide around? shouldnt there be like one material engineer here or TGR who can figure out how to make a base that doesnt get core shots and slides well and is the same as the edge material

I have a prototype ski made out of goat horn. It’s still in the works but I’ll post it up once it’s done
Dec 24 2019 3:37AM
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skierman_jack
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nellyyyI might be overstepping, but maybe (and it's way too early to tell if you just got your pair) as you slide a bunch of rails, the base material will 'wear' in and you'll develop grooves underfoot from sliding rails? Maybe? Report back in March plz


Yeah thanks that’s what I meant.
Dec 24 2019 8:01AM
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McdonaldDuck
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-DanTwo days at mt snow. What do you wanna know?


Hahaha I saw you
Dec 24 2019 10:26AM
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whackhouse
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skied these for a run or 2 last season, they are SOFT, if wets are a 3 these are a 2 or 1.5, never hit an aluminum rail with them but regular rails are buttery, honestly a very strange feeling to slide with no edge resistance. fun ski, woulnt use as my daily though even in Bush spring.
Dec 24 2019 3:46PM
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badnew
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Ive got a pair that I ski up at bigsky every day so far this season. They are actually amazing for noncharging allmountain shredding, they carve and butter like a dream as long as its not icy (then just try not to die). Really great having every rail slide consistently regardless of paint, different metals, wood and honestly anything else you can think of.
Dec 25 2019 12:39PM
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Vtsnowski
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-DanEasy to ski and edge these on snow. I have had em on hard pack, slush, crust and solid ice. They can handle everything but the solid ice. On ice they really weren’t all much worse than your typical rounded used edge ski.


Been skiing on edgeless skis for a few years now and when people ask how they handle on snow this is the same thing I tell them.
Dec 26 2019 11:21AM
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Park.
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Yes. Side cut is flat underfoot so they like to go straight. Soft enough to make it work tho. Not intuitive but not hard to use. Would recommend
HYP3R_REAL1TYWould these be a good 50/50 touring ski for urban rails and pow?
Dec 26 2019 11:28PM
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FruitBootPro
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I feel like these would be amazing as a park/urban only ski. Fast on rails, super soft, light because no edges. Only thing I would be worried about is stability on jumps. Does that sound about right?
Dec 28 2019 4:34PM
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CatdickBojangles
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surfaceoutsidersI feel like these would be amazing as a park/urban only ski. Fast on rails, super soft, light because no edges. Only thing I would be worried about is stability on jumps. Does that sound about right?

It’s made for specifically for urban.
Dec 28 2019 9:16PM
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badnew
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surfaceoutsidersI feel like these would be amazing as a park/urban only ski. Fast on rails, super soft, light because no edges. Only thing I would be worried about is stability on jumps. Does that sound about right?


Jumps are fine on them as far as holding an edge but they are as soft as it gets so you need to be very centered on your landings.
Jan 3 2020 8:22PM
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