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Full Tilt Drop Kick pros and cons

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T_gonzo88
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Went to a boot fitter and found that my narrow foot fits well in the full tilt drop kicks. I want to get them to prevent shin bang and they seem like a good all around boot but I don’t know all sides to them. I ski 50% park and 50% all mountain. Can u guys please tell me the pros and cons of the drop kicks?

**This thread was edited on Dec 20th 2019 at 5:53:28pm
Dec 20 2019 5:24PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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Get full tilts
Dec 20 2019 11:12PM
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casual
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How tall and heavy are you?


I think the Dropkick comes with a 6 flex tongue which in my opinion is really soft. Maybe 100 flex in other boots? Maybe a bit less.

i have been on full tilts for a while now, and my last two pairs have been the descendant. I have a wider forefoot and am prone to sixth toe issues, so the 102 last is great for me.

they only make it up to an 8 flex, and after skiing a few weeks, it just felt too soft to me. So I got the 10 tongues, shorter cables, extra soles and now I’m dialed.


im 6’1 and 200 lbs.

never been on the dropkick though.
Dec 20 2019 11:26PM
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combatgoon17
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casualHow tall and heavy are you?


I think the Dropkick comes with a 6 flex tongue which in my opinion is really soft. Maybe 100 flex in other boots? Maybe a bit less.

i have been on full tilts for a while now, and my last two pairs have been the descendant. I have a wider forefoot and am prone to sixth toe issues, so the 102 last is great for me.

they only make it up to an 8 flex, and after skiing a few weeks, it just felt too soft to me. So I got the 10 tongues, shorter cables, extra soles and now I’m dialed.


im 6’1 and 200 lbs.

never been on the dropkick though.


maybe a dumb question, but what cables? don't the descendants come with normal buckles?
Dec 21 2019 9:18AM
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casual
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The cables are just “pinched” by the typical buckle if that makes sense.

so instead of like on some fulltilts where the raw cable slips over the clamp that you then fold back, the buckle (ladder style) is on the end of the cable.

so, you can open the boot and slide the cable back a notch to effectively “shorten” it, but you can also buy shorter cables.


A single screw holds the buckle to the cable.
combatgoon17maybe a dumb question, but what cables? don't the descendants come with normal buckles?
Dec 22 2019 1:03AM
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casual
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https://i1.adis.ws/i/fulltilt/fulltilt_1920_descendant-8_hero?w=960&maxW=1600&maxH=1600&qlt=100&fmt.jpeg.interlaced=true&bg=white
Dec 22 2019 1:05AM
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combatgoon17
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casualhttps://i1.adis.ws/i/fulltilt/fulltilt_1920_descendant-8_hero?w=960&maxW=1600&maxH=1600&qlt=100&fmt.jpeg.interlaced=true&bg=white


oh, thanks for clearing up my confusion, actually forgot what my own boot looks like after not skiing for half a year
Dec 22 2019 5:37AM
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animator
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Same for me, I’ve owned First Chairs and Descendants. My First chairs are 10 flex and the Descendants are 6, ended up buying a 10 tongue for the Descendant. I ski 30% park and 70% all mountain so the 10 flex is ideal for me. Depends on how you feel, it’s a good boot but if you don’t like the flex you can buy other ones for 35 bucks!
Dec 22 2019 7:23PM
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CatdickBojangles
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Drop kicks use the classic shell so you lose the ability to swap soles when they get worn out. The last 1/4 of the heel is replaceable but that's it. I would suggest a boot with the Soul shell i.e. Twall or First chair. But that is just me. I have the first chair 10s and love them
Dec 23 2019 11:36AM
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Wizerd
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i've been riding drop kicks for like 6 years and they're okay but i've noticed that as i've gotten better at skiing and become more aggressive, they just aren't responsive enough for me. also my calf is very skinny so there's always a gap in front of my shin making it worse. they are good boots for a beginner imo. also as mentioned the sole is not replaceable, my last pair of drop kicks I had completely replaced every part besides the shell due to things breaking over time (an awesome thing about FT boots might I add) but I had to trash them because the sole and heel had worn so much that they would pop out of my bindings. If you really love the fit/feel of dropkicks, just get Twalls or First chairs as they have the replaceable sole
Dec 24 2019 12:07AM
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CatdickBojangles
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Wizerdi've been riding drop kicks for like 6 years and they're okay but i've noticed that as i've gotten better at skiing and become more aggressive, they just aren't responsive enough for me. also my calf is very skinny so there's always a gap in front of my shin making it worse. they are good boots for a beginner imo. also as mentioned the sole is not replaceable, my last pair of drop kicks I had completely replaced every part besides the shell due to things breaking over time (an awesome thing about FT boots might I add) but I had to trash them because the sole and heel had worn so much that they would pop out of my bindings. If you really love the fit/feel of dropkicks, just get Twalls or First chairs as they have the replaceable sole


I also have really skinny calfs and I order shorter cables for mine (235 at the top and 245 at the ankle) which is super nice to be able to do and its a pretty easy swap.
Dec 24 2019 7:30AM
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Jbleddy
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I have some first chair 10s and i think the flex is great all around, Im 6'1, 165, so pretty skiiny, but the 10 flex holds up great for charging crud, but ive never gotten shin bang in them, go 10 flex, its still soft enough for park but youll have fun all over the mtn with the response of the stiffer boot. -->get first chair 8 or 10s

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Dec 25 2019 9:18AM
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ahshit
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You should take a better look at all boots. "Preventing shinbang" isn't a reason you should look solely at full tilt. Go to a fitter, try on multiple pairs so you know what fits your foot. If you're really hooked on three piecers give other brands like roxa and dalbello a try, they may fit your foot much better

Happy shredding!

Also inb4 "I got drop kicks and now my entire foot hurts"

**This post was edited on Dec 27th 2019 at 11:50:48am
Dec 27 2019 11:50AM
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T_gonzo88
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casualHow tall and heavy are you?


I think the Dropkick comes with a 6 flex tongue which in my opinion is really soft. Maybe 100 flex in other boots? Maybe a bit less.

i have been on full tilts for a while now, and my last two pairs have been the descendant. I have a wider forefoot and am prone to sixth toe issues, so the 102 last is great for me.

they only make it up to an 8 flex, and after skiing a few weeks, it just felt too soft to me. So I got the 10 tongues, shorter cables, extra soles and now I’m dialed.


im 6’1 and 200 lbs.

never been on the dropkick though.


I am 5’6 130 lbs
Dec 29 2019 2:16AM
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Wizerd
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T_gonzo88I am 5’6 130 lbs


go to a boot fitter. people online can only tell you so much about something, you've gotta try some on for yourself regardless of brand or model to see what fits
Dec 29 2019 11:16AM
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T_gonzo88
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I did tho and they said my feet were perfect for them
Dec 29 2019 6:57PM
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hootsquad
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I recently switched to a stiffer, more traditional boot from the drop kick after getting fitted by a boot fitter. I will sy that I've really enjoyed being in a stiffer boot, it feels much more responsive and agile. But that may be a result of these boots being a more "proper" fit for me because I wasn't fitted for the drop kicks
Dec 29 2019 8:53PM
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MichaelSkier
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I am the owner of drop kick and I want to change them, the leg dangles in them, if I tighten it stronger, then after a while the legs will begin to hurt, if I relax, then the heel dangles
Dec 30 2019 6:26AM
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Rochey
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I didn’t realise you could ski without pain until I got these.

I have high arches so if you or anyone suffers with them. Definitely consider these!

Disclaimer - I have custom food beds in all my boots though... including these.

As mentioned by other people a bit fiddly to get on first few times but after a few days you’ll be sweet.

I genuinely love these boots though. The softness of the tongue might throw you if you’ve not used anything that flexible as I dropped to 90 after using 110 Lange XT LVs so felt the difference but after a few runs felt dialled.
Jan 4 2020 4:10PM
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Rochey
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Love mine. Fiddly to get on at first but all over it now.

I have high arches so get cramp in most boots and have foot beds made for all of them, but these boots feel fantastic.


Negatives: Not sure how long the sole will last. The softness might be difficult if you’ve had a stiffer boot before. But you’ll get dialled in pretty quick.
Jan 5 2020 9:53AM
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