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Shin bang because I'm skinny

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BayAreaJerry
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I've got roxa element 110's, and they are great. Super comfy and light. The only problem is I am really skinny and don't weigh much (130lbs). I have a booster strap and have tried buckling at as many different tightness-es as I could. I can't get new boots because I've only had these for one season so getting a lower flex isn't an option, unless they sell softer tongues for roxa's somewhere. I've tried cutting and wrapping a computer case around my legs to fill the boot, but it just cut off circulation and didn't stop the bang. When the pain was really bad I also tried gel shoe inserts with holes cut where my shin hits the boot. That helped the pain but didn't stop it from developing. Trying to get bigger legs by eating and biking, but so far it hasn't been working very well.

Anyone have any solutions? I think something to make my leg wider would be best.

**This thread was edited on Dec 10th 2019 at 5:09:17pm
Dec 10 2019 4:29PM
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CatdickBojangles
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Go to a boot fitter he should be able to fix it or get it close. Could just need a whole new better fitting boot.
Dec 10 2019 4:54PM
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1kewldewd
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Do you ski back seat a lot or land back seat on jumps or rails? If you are doing that fixing your form will help.
Dec 10 2019 4:57PM
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BayAreaJerry
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CatdickBojanglesGo to a boot fitter he should be able to fix it or get it close. Could just need a whole new better fitting boot.

I got these from a boot fitter, they did amazing work making them custom. My foot is really flat and weird so the bone on the side of my ankle sticks out a lot. They bent the boot out so it doesn't rub/slam anymore, which was a game changer for me but also expensive, so I can't do it again.
1kewldewdDo you ski back seat a lot or land back seat on jumps or rails? If you are doing that fixing your form will help.

I normally ride all mountain and I think have pretty good form. Not quite racer good but better than most people, at least I think/hope so. Park jumps with good landings aren't really much of a problem, it's mainly cliffs and fast bumps.
Dec 10 2019 5:06PM
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f100prerunner
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How is the cuff fitment on the boot? When fully buckled are you able to move back and forth inside the shell? If so check out boot spoilers. Basically a plastic shim that goes between your liner and she’ll and takes up extra room.
Dec 10 2019 5:14PM
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Poikenz
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BayAreaJerryI got these from a boot fitter, they did amazing work making them custom. My foot is really flat and weird so the bone on the side of my ankle sticks out a lot. They bent the boot out so it doesn't rub/slam anymore, which was a game changer for me but also expensive, so I can't do it again.

I normally ride all mountain and I think have pretty good form. Not quite racer good but better than most people, at least I think/hope so. Park jumps with good landings aren't really much of a problem, it's mainly cliffs and fast bumps.


I don't have experience with roxa, but certain companies do make narrower cuffs than others. See if the store you bought them from has a fit guarantee, I'm guessing they don't as you had to pay for the work, but it is worth a shot. It sounds like you suffer from pronated ankles which can be solved with a footbed. A footbed would place your foot in a better position and save you from needing to punch out the shell. If you have a traditional liner and not an intuition, the pain may be caused by the shape of the liner, this can usually be resolved by heating the plastic tounge and bending it outwards. But someone would have to check it out and see what the actual problem is. I'm guessing you could probably downsize or find a better model to fit your feet.
Dec 10 2019 6:17PM
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BayAreaJerry
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f100prerunnerHow is the cuff fitment on the boot? When fully buckled are you able to move back and forth inside the shell? If so check out boot spoilers. Basically a plastic shim that goes between your liner and she’ll and takes up extra room.

This is exactly was I looking for, thank you.
PoikenzI don't have experience with roxa, but certain companies do make narrower cuffs than others. See if the store you bought them from has a fit guarantee, I'm guessing they don't as you had to pay for the work, but it is worth a shot. It sounds like you suffer from pronated ankles which can be solved with a footbed. A footbed would place your foot in a better position and save you from needing to punch out the shell. If you have a traditional liner and not an intuition, the pain may be caused by the shape of the liner, this can usually be resolved by heating the plastic tounge and bending it outwards. But someone would have to check it out and see what the actual problem is. I'm guessing you could probably downsize or find a better model to fit your feet.

I have custom footbeds and intuition liners, but I think punching it out was an extra precaution becasue the pain it caused in my last boots was unbearable. Everything else about the boot fits perfectly, I am just really really skinny, the shop said I had a "low volume issue." I tired on dalbello's and full tilts, but I was way to skinny, so I don't know about finding a different model. I got them fitted at a great shop, so I'm sure they'll still be willing to help me out if I give them a call. Didn't even know they made different sized cuffs.
Dec 10 2019 8:42PM
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srekem
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BayAreaJerryI normally ride all mountain and I think have pretty good form. Not quite racer good but better than most people, at least I think/hope so. Park jumps with good landings aren't really much of a problem, it's mainly cliffs and fast bumps.

Sounds like you know what you're doing, but if it's bumps and cliffs/drops that are causing the pain there's a decent chance you're leaning back too much in those scenarios. You should pretty much always have your shins pressing against the front of your boot when you're skiing, so besides the other advice in this thread I'd suggest trying to lean forward more.

Maybe I'm wrong tho, hard to tell without watching you ski. Good luck!
Dec 10 2019 9:02PM
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snowmosexual
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Try lifting your toes to the top of your boot when skiing. It will force you to be on the front of the ski.
(idk how well I'm gonna explain this) A strength exercise I got from an old race coach you can do anytime is when you're sitting down point your toes so your ankle is straight then flex your ankle back up towards your knee. Hopefully you can figure it out from that, it is very simple and easy. Ive spent hours doing it and school and it builds the muscle on the front of your shin.
Dec 10 2019 9:57PM
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BayAreaJerry
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srekemSounds like you know what you're doing, but if it's bumps and cliffs/drops that are causing the pain there's a decent chance you're leaning back too much in those scenarios. You should pretty much always have your shins pressing against the front of your boot when you're skiing, so besides the other advice in this thread I'd suggest trying to lean forward more.

Maybe I'm wrong tho, hard to tell without watching you ski. Good luck!


I think part of the issue is that I have had very soft skis, and landing forward was really scary because they flexed too much. Got some new marksmans now doe.
Dec 10 2019 11:32PM
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BayAreaJerry
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snowmosexualTry lifting your toes to the top of your boot when skiing. It will force you to be on the front of the ski.
(idk how well I'm gonna explain this) A strength exercise I got from an old race coach you can do anytime is when you're sitting down point your toes so your ankle is straight then flex your ankle back up towards your knee. Hopefully you can figure it out from that, it is very simple and easy. Ive spent hours doing it and school and it builds the muscle on the front of your shin.


will definitly be doing this during class
Dec 10 2019 11:36PM
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Kushti
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You should try 4000 kcal / day and some squats
Dec 11 2019 3:22AM
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loadedburrito
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what bootfitter? if you are in the bay area, olympic bootworks in squaw valley is a really good bootfitter
Dec 11 2019 11:21AM
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BayAreaJerry
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loadedburritowhat bootfitter? if you are in the bay area, olympic bootworks in squaw valley is a really good bootfitter


I've always gone to start haus when in Tahoe, but I got these at california ski company
Dec 11 2019 12:16PM
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HypeBeast
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Obviously form is the most important thing for shinbang but if your legs are truly jostling around in your boots, try CALF strengthening exercises. Squats and bicycle are minimal for calves- more quads than calves. Do standing and seated calf raises twice a week as part of your weight training program. Seated calf raises are my favorite. Make sure you're going slow down and exploding up. There's also this if your gym has it, it works other lower leg muscles with will also help with girth.




Make sure you're doing appropriate rep numbers and weight and failure sets for growth. In other words, check out bodybuilding.com and don't be doing 25 reps per set.
Dec 11 2019 1:36PM
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loadedburrito
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BayAreaJerryI've always gone to start haus when in Tahoe, but I got these at california ski company


ye start haus is awesome as well
Dec 11 2019 1:37PM
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BayAreaJerry
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Emailed roxa and they sent me new liners and softer tongues for free!! Trying them this weekend
Jan 7 2020 7:29PM
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-eREKTion-
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BayAreaJerryEmailed roxa and they sent me new liners and softer tongues for free!! Trying them this weekend


damn... big up Roxa customer service
Jan 7 2020 8:30PM
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BayAreaJerry
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-eREKTion-damn... big up Roxa customer service


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Jan 7 2020 11:50PM
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hootsquad
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try tightening your booster strap directly on the liner, underneath the shell as opposed to on top. Probably won't be enough to completely solve your problem but it might at least help
Jan 12 2020 8:33PM
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Chunderface
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BayAreaJerryThis is exactly was I looking for, thank you.

I have custom footbeds and intuition liners, but I think punching it out was an extra precaution becasue the pain it caused in my last boots was unbearable. Everything else about the boot fits perfectly, I am just really really skinny, the shop said I had a "low volume issue." I tired on dalbello's and full tilts, but I was way to skinny, so I don't know about finding a different model. I got them fitted at a great shop, so I'm sure they'll still be willing to help me out if I give them a call. Didn't even know they made different sized cuffs.


Which Intuitions are you using?
Jan 13 2020 1:39AM
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BayAreaJerry
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the softer tongues and normal liner have fixed the bang, I am now cured! bless roxa customer support
Jan 13 2020 2:46PM
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