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Salomon STH2 or Tyrolia Attack 13?

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FruitBootPro
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I would generally opt for the Attacks because they're tried and true, but the sth's are much cheaper and I've also heard good things about them. I've heard they're heavy, though, and that doesn't sound too good considering I'd be mounting them on >2300g skis. I also heard they mess with the flex points on your skis because of their size. I really have to save money rn so if the sth's won't make my experience bad, I'll take those, but I'm iffy on them bc of their weight. Would it be worth it to buy the STH's or shell out for the Attacks?
Dec 1 2019 2:41PM
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Non_State_Actor
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surfaceoutsidersI would generally opt for the Attacks because they're tried and true, but the sth's are much cheaper and I've also heard good things about them. I've heard they're heavy, though, and that doesn't sound too good considering I'd be mounting them on >2300g skis. I also heard they mess with the flex points on your skis because of their size. I really have to save money rn so if the sth's won't make my experience bad, I'll take those, but I'm iffy on them bc of their weight. Would it be worth it to buy the STH's or shell out for the Attacks?


Where are you finding STH cheaper than the Attack 13s?
Dec 1 2019 2:46PM
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FruitBootPro
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mystery3Where are you finding STH cheaper than the Attack 13s?


It's what people are offering me
Dec 1 2019 3:12PM
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Non_State_Actor
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surfaceoutsidersIt's what people are offering me


Got it. New STHs are usually $50-75 more than attacks.

What's the weight difference? 100g per ski?
Dec 1 2019 3:27PM
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Ghost_BLandzV2
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Im riding 184 poachers with pivot 14’s which is def one of the heaviest possible setups for park skis and last week I was using my old 180 danollies w same bindings which is a way lighter setup and i’ll tell ya first hand weight makes absolutely no difference at all. The only thing I would say is that shifties are easier with lighter skis but the binding weight isnt going to do fuck all its the swing weight of the skis.

I personally don’t know if STH are better than attacks. I honestly highly doubt it because Tyrolia kind of specializes in bindings but put the weight aside and just buy whatever if going to last the longest. Better off spending the extra money now so you don’t break em midseason and have to spend even more money in the future
Dec 1 2019 3:52PM
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Lemuel
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surfaceoutsidersI also heard they mess with the flex points on your skis because of their size.


This is false. The STH2 has cutouts where the heel piece mounts to allow for flexing. The heel piece essentially floats back and forth on the mounting points, allowing the ski to flex more naturally. This is one of their selling points.
Dec 1 2019 4:25PM
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animator
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LemuelThis is false. The STH2 has cutouts where the heel piece mounts to allow for flexing. The heel piece essentially floats back and forth on the mounting points, allowing the ski to flex more naturally. This is one of their selling points.


Yup, this is true. Also, STH2s are heavier but not enough that you’ll notice when you’re skiing. It’s a beefy binding designed for good retention. The Attack is also a great binding that is lightweight and low profile. Depends on what you prioritize and if you have brand loyalty. Both are good, the STH would be a little bit more durable than the Attack
Dec 1 2019 5:23PM
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FruitBootPro
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People are telling me not to buy used bindings, is that good advice?
Dec 1 2019 5:30PM
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Lemuel
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surfaceoutsidersPeople are telling me not to buy used bindings, is that good advice?


People generally are not selling bindings because they don't need them. I have a box of good extra bindings and I've never really put too much effort into selling them because I'll use them once my current pairs shit the bed.

The STH toe also has vertical release. In my opinion it is the best toe piece out there.
Dec 1 2019 6:01PM
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sambuswell
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surfaceoutsidersPeople are telling me not to buy used bindings, is that good advice?


If they're in decent shape it's not a bad idea. Buying thrashed or mismatched bindings isn't the best thing to do because shops won't touch them but if they're in good shape you'll be fine
Dec 1 2019 6:36PM
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WyattLoney
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I’ve had several pairs of attack 13s and they’ve never let me down
Dec 1 2019 9:02PM
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ASSholebomber22
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Both great bindings for different reasons.

Attacks ski the best because of a super low stack height and wide afd. They have poor elasticity though, and you may get a harsh release here and there.

Sth2's are a little taller, but have the BEST toe piece in the game in terms of buttery smooth releases when you need it and rock solid reliability. I am a big fan of Sth2's. Nothing wrong with attacks though.

You can find new attack 13's for 120-130ish if you look hard. I just got new sth2 16's for 230 and you may be able to find 13's new for 180 or so.

Used bindings are fine, just don't buy beat or super old units. As always, there's risk involved and they may be garbage so just be vigilant and ask a reputable shop to inspect them if you're concerned.

**This post was edited on Dec 2nd 2019 at 1:18:26am
Dec 2 2019 1:17AM
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SofaKingSick
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surfaceoutsidersPeople are telling me not to buy used bindings, is that good advice?


as long as they're in good shape i think it's fine. ive had pivots that have outlived several pairs of skis and i just bring them to the shop each time and ask them to check if theyre still good to use or not. wouldn't be that different buying used except that you don't know firsthand what the bindings have been through, but the shop can test them to see if they operate correctly

don't get some super old beaters though, it's not worth it for bindings when you can get some Attacks for like 150 give or take

also STHs and Attacks both have super good reputations. if money is your primary concern just get whichever you can find cheapest. don't worry about the weight too much
Dec 2 2019 11:49AM
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