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Financial Stress and Skiing

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.otto.
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Has anybody ever missed a season out of financial reasons rather than injury?
Nov 9 2019 4:02AM
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Chubz.
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Gonna come damn close this year...almost did last year. Skied on 8 year old edgeless el reys that were deathtraps on the east coast.


this is my first time buying a season pass full price since 2015..pretty bummed about that and don’t even know when I’ll be able to do that. Plus I don’t have a car....

🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll find a way tho. I always do
Nov 9 2019 4:09AM
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WoFIowz
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If you count my parents not having the money for me to ski as a kid, then yeah. Now, I hope that never happens
Nov 9 2019 7:40PM
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ASSholebomber22
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BlumpkinPumpkinIf you count my parents not having the money for me to ski as a kid, then yeah. Now, I hope that never happens


Felt this. Many seasons growing up when the only days we had was when family friends fronted us buddy passes.

Nowadays I ski for super cheap and it's badass.
Nov 9 2019 7:43PM
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shred.stickz
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The only thing that has allowed me to ski up to this point is being a ski instructor. I've always had to save up for my ski season, which was a good and bad thing. I'm glad my parents didn't just hand me things but it was definitely hard to keep up with my buddies who could go wherever, whenever they wanted to. So I feel ya OP.

This is why we stay in school kids! I'm graduating next year and hope to never miss a season due to money again.
Nov 9 2019 7:53PM
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Bigboulderroller
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Ya dude I feel this. So I got hooked on pills for a while and skiing and everything else went hat I love went out the window... life good again. 2 years clean skiing again
Nov 9 2019 9:33PM
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Skibumsmith
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Just curious, no judgement. What caused you guys to be in such financial despair that you weren't able to save up a few hundred bucks over the summer to buy a pass?
Nov 9 2019 10:55PM
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LoathesRaisins
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Nov 9 2019 11:08PM
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Seekingseasons
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BigboulderrollerYa dude I feel this. So I got hooked on pills for a while and skiing and everything else went hat I love went out the window... life good again. 2 years clean skiing again


I understand this struggle, really happy I got out of Xan Diego.
Nov 9 2019 11:26PM
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Chubz.
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SkibumsmithJust curious, no judgement. What caused you guys to be in such financial despair that you weren't able to save up a few hundred bucks over the summer to buy a pass?

Last year I was out of work from August to November, couldn’t find during school to save my life. Friend gifted me super old skis and I didn’t make enough to buy new ones, was driving 110 mile round trips 5-6 days a week for work throughout the season so all of my money was going into my gas tank.

this year I had planned to move to Utah and put in a lot of money into a house I was planning on moving into, so that’s where almost all of my summer money went. Car absolutely shit the bed a couple weeks before I planned out moving out and took even more of my money resulting in me not
getting out west.


so now I’m saving up for a new car and buying an overpriced season pass to a tiny ass hill in NY bc my asshole boss on park crew is holding a grudge and won’t hire me back.

Also don’t have mommy and daddy to pay for a car payment or insurance or phone bill or let me use one of their cars. So I’m trying to figure all this out on my own.


Times are rough out here
Nov 10 2019 1:10AM
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Skibumsmith
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Chubz.Last year I was out of work from August to November, couldn’t find during school to save my life. Friend gifted me super old skis and I didn’t make enough to buy new ones, was driving 110 mile round trips 5-6 days a week for work throughout the season so all of my money was going into my gas tank.

this year I had planned to move to Utah and put in a lot of money into a house I was planning on moving into, so that’s where almost all of my summer money went. Car absolutely shit the bed a couple weeks before I planned out moving out and took even more of my money resulting in me not
getting out west.


so now I’m saving up for a new car and buying an overpriced season pass to a tiny ass hill in NY bc my asshole boss on park crew is holding a grudge and won’t hire me back.

Also don’t have mommy and daddy to pay for a car payment or insurance or phone bill or let me use one of their cars. So I’m trying to figure all this out on my own.


Times are rough out here


Understandable. I wish you the best of luck my dude and hope you're able to make it out to Utah next year. I know a lot of people that have lived in employee housing in LCC and didn't even own a car. Just need a plane ticket out there and the rest is taken care of.
Nov 10 2019 3:41PM
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wass41
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Chubz.Last year I was out of work from August to November, couldn’t find during school to save my life. Friend gifted me super old skis and I didn’t make enough to buy new ones, was driving 110 mile round trips 5-6 days a week for work throughout the season so all of my money was going into my gas tank.

this year I had planned to move to Utah and put in a lot of money into a house I was planning on moving into, so that’s where almost all of my summer money went. Car absolutely shit the bed a couple weeks before I planned out moving out and took even more of my money resulting in me not
getting out west.


so now I’m saving up for a new car and buying an overpriced season pass to a tiny ass hill in NY bc my asshole boss on park crew is holding a grudge and won’t hire me back.

Also don’t have mommy and daddy to pay for a car payment or insurance or phone bill or let me use one of their cars. So I’m trying to figure all this out on my own.


Times are rough out here


Could you try moving to a new mountain town in the east and working at a different resort. Middle of nowhere Maine and New Hampshire is cheap as shit to live and there’s plenty of mountains to work at. Almost every mountain I know of is struggling to fill there jobs with this economy.
Nov 10 2019 4:13PM
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chiknmcplanks
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I've missed out because I was making too much money, i.e. working all the time. I have thousands of dollars worth of gear in my garage that I hardly use because I'm too busy with work/family/other "life" things. I've been broke before, but somehow managed to always make it work and skied 10x as much as I do now. It's ironic that I've become the guy I made fun of as a kid. Sometimes I want to throw it all away and just move into a van.
Nov 10 2019 7:27PM
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AlmostCooler
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chiknmcplanksI've missed out because I was making too much money, i.e. working all the time. I have thousands of dollars worth of gear in my garage that I hardly use because I'm too busy with work/family/other "life" things. I've been broke before, but somehow managed to always make it work and skied 10x as much as I do now. It's ironic that I've become the guy I made fun of as a kid. Sometimes I want to throw it all away and just move into a van.


Do it.
Nov 10 2019 7:51PM
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Skibumsmith
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chiknmcplanksI've missed out because I was making too much money, i.e. working all the time. I have thousands of dollars worth of gear in my garage that I hardly use because I'm too busy with work/family/other "life" things. I've been broke before, but somehow managed to always make it work and skied 10x as much as I do now. It's ironic that I've become the guy I made fun of as a kid. Sometimes I want to throw it all away and just move into a van.

We all become that guy eventually.
Nov 10 2019 10:35PM
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Casey
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The year before last we had borrowed a lot of money against our house to do improvements, on top of having every waking moment of my life booked up with construction projects and contractor follow up, my wife got pregnant and i felt like a dirt bag ditching her to go have fun skiing. The thing about not getting a season pass is like, you’ll never make an effort to get up and shell out 100 bucks for a day pass unless conditions are mint, which means a lot fewer days.
Nov 10 2019 11:12PM
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jupiterhenry
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Sierra at Tahoe used to partner with Shell gas in the bay, and they would give you a 2-for-1 lift ticket voucher at the station when you bought over $15 of gas. My broke ass used to stand outside and ask randos to go back in and get the voucher and give it to me (which most people were actually down to do, once they realized I wasn’t approaching them to ask for money). Then when I went up, I’d spend like an hour in the parking lot selling 2-for-1 vouchers to people for $40. Paid for a lot of ski trips that way...but still, ski trips where I was riding on trash gear. This shit is expensive. Now I’m old and I work a decent job so I can afford it, but I’m also way softer than I used to be, so I’m hoping I don’t break a hip or some shit.
Nov 10 2019 11:28PM
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PACA-Skieur
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Yes, I know plenty of folks who had to hang-up their skis for a few year and take up skiing again when money was less tight.
Nov 10 2019 11:46PM
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Dilldoes
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Not so much financially hard for me. But it was harder to convince my friends back in college to spend their money skiing with me so I took as many solo trips as I could but l went to school in Oklahoma so driving 8 hours alone got old fast.

**This post was edited on Nov 12th 2019 at 7:47:24am
Nov 11 2019 2:11PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Banker here if you have a home equity loan/line, check your rate against what rates are right now since rates have been dropping very quickly for the past 8 months or so. 2 years ago they were okay, but now it's quite possible you can go lower. Once you've had a home equity for 3 years most institutions let you refinance for no cost as long as it's not an enormous amount where they want to have title insurance on the loan/line. Might even be worth a refi if you have a higher rate on mortgage too since mortgages are now at about a 12 year low.
CaseyThe year before last we had borrowed a lot of money against our house to do improvements, on top of having every waking moment of my life booked up with construction projects and contractor follow up, my wife got pregnant and i felt like a dirt bag ditching her to go have fun skiing. The thing about not getting a season pass is like, you’ll never make an effort to get up and shell out 100 bucks for a day pass unless conditions are mint, which means a lot fewer days.
Nov 11 2019 4:29PM
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YeetCannon
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I find that skiing all winter matters more than money IMO. 20k from a summer working is more than enough to get me a 100+ day season
Nov 11 2019 7:58PM
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Casey
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BigPurpleSkiSuitBanker here if you have a home equity loan/line, check your rate against what rates are right now since rates have been dropping very quickly for the past 8 months or so. 2 years ago they were okay, but now it's quite possible you can go lower. Once you've had a home equity for 3 years most institutions let you refinance for no cost as long as it's not an enormous amount where they want to have title insurance on the loan/line. Might even be worth a refi if you have a higher rate on mortgage too since mortgages are now at about a 12 year low.


I will hit you up when the time comes. Do you know anyone that will lend on undeveloped land for decent terms?
Nov 11 2019 9:53PM
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Jesushadvishnus
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YeetCannonI find that skiing all winter matters more than money IMO. 20k from a summer working is more than enough to get me a 100+ day season


without gear, 5k should be enough for 4-5 months

**This post was edited on Nov 12th 2019 at 6:56:42pm
Nov 12 2019 6:55PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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SkibumsmithJust curious, no judgement. What caused you guys to be in such financial despair that you weren't able to save up a few hundred bucks over the summer to buy a pass?


For me it was poor financial decision making. I had enough but spent it all on weed, alcohol, my car (really nothing came close to the amount I spent on my car). If I didn't already buy my pass I'd be fucked. Now I can't afford gas to get me skiing though, so idk what to do. Get a job I suppose but that will be fuckin hard to do and stay in school and ski as much as I was planning on doing
Nov 12 2019 7:44PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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Nope lets do the math here for one season

Cost:
New Gear = $1000 - $2000
Rent = $3600
Food/Car/Gas = ~$3000

Revenue:
Daddy's Income = $5,000,000

Total = $4,993,200
Nov 12 2019 8:25PM
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Youngm_IPCME
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TRVP_ANGELNope lets do the math here for one season

Cost:
New Gear = $1000 - $2000
Rent = $3600
Food/Car/Gas = ~$3000

Revenue:
Daddy's Income = $5,000,000

Total = $4,993,200

I get this is a joke, but do people actually spend 1-2k per season on gear?
Nov 13 2019 12:03AM
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ASSholebomber22
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Young_IPMCI get this is a joke, but do people actually spend 1-2k per season on gear?


You think I'm really gonna be seen on the slopes at breck without this year's arc'teryx shells and salomon shifts mounted on my new Black Crows Corvus Freebird's?

Not. A fuckin. Chance.
Nov 13 2019 12:13AM
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CLQ
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I can't afford an Aspen pass this year but I don't give a shit
Nov 13 2019 1:22AM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Joe and Dave are friends
Joe and Dave work in investment banking and make 500k-1 mil a year
Joe and Dave are constantly trying to impress each other
They will take a vacation to your local resort in colorado/utah/california/Wyoming and each rent SUVs to drive through the snow and clog the roads
Joe and Dave will buy the newest gear and spend upwards of 10k on their respective trips.
Young_IPMCI get this is a joke, but do people actually spend 1-2k per season on gear?
Nov 13 2019 2:44PM
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Youngm_IPCME
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BigPurpleSkiSuitJoe and Dave are friends
Joe and Dave work in investment banking and make 500k-1 mil a year
Joe and Dave are constantly trying to impress each other
They will take a vacation to your local resort in colorado/utah/california/Wyoming and each rent SUVs to drive through the snow and clog the roads
Joe and Dave will buy the newest gear and spend upwards of 10k on their respective trips.

I mean, sure 1k is pretty minimal when you’re burning money on trips, but it’s insanity how marketing can be convincing to the point that they’d believe close model years yield significantly different products
Nov 13 2019 3:00PM
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WoFIowz
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Young_IPMCI get this is a joke, but do people actually spend 1-2k per season on gear?

Yeah as ^^^ said. People making hundreds of thousands of income a year could easily do this. Think about the ratio to income of what most people on here spend on ski gear each year. It's probably higher than what upper class folks spend on ski gear (not trips, but ski gear). Chump change for high earners to get new shit every year.
Nov 13 2019 3:04PM
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SkiBum.
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CaseyThe year before last we had borrowed a lot of money against our house to do improvements, on top of having every waking moment of my life booked up with construction projects and contractor follow up, my wife got pregnant and i felt like a dirt bag ditching her to go have fun skiing. The thing about not getting a season pass is like, you’ll never make an effort to get up and shell out 100 bucks for a day pass unless conditions are mint, which means a lot fewer days.


Fucking home Reno. I got to do a home equity probably in the spring to finish. But will be worth it since my home value has pretty much doubled.


Also my fucking project truck is going to be a black hole


I ski the weekends. Lol.
Nov 13 2019 3:49PM
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Trifes
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Young_IPMCI get this is a joke, but do people actually spend 1-2k per season on gear?


literally all the jerrys in europe

best gear, worst behavior and skills
Nov 14 2019 1:01PM
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WoFIowz
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trifonitchevliterally all the jerrys in europe

best gear, worst behavior and skills


Behavior. That's what kills me the most. These people with flashy everything tend to be more likely than not straight douche bags especially in the US. Excuse me sir, everyone who knows what the fuck they are actually doing are silently laughing at your absurd get up.
Nov 14 2019 7:46PM
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SuspiciousFish
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BlumpkinPumpkinBehavior. That's what kills me the most. These people with flashy everything tend to be more likely than not straight douche bags especially in the US. Excuse me sir, everyone who knows what the fuck they are actually doing are silently laughing at your absurd get up.


lol This reminds me the last time I was at Vail I saw a guy with a top of the line Arc'teryx jacket with a polo underneath in the lift line with his wife whose hands were about to freeze off because she apparently couldn't fit gloves over his massive engagement ring rock.
Nov 14 2019 8:36PM
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Lonely
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Yeah just lost the charger to the camera I use to film skiing. Gonna cost 250$ to replace. Fml and my wallet
Nov 14 2019 11:06PM
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KilaTsunami
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I heard some dude got 35k for selling just one of his nuts.. i say go big.

70k will go a long way.
Nov 14 2019 11:19PM
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Lines4Dayz
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Opportunity, my friend. A local mountain offers a “brush cut” that allows avid shredders to toss their name into a hat to cut some foliage on their favorite runs. If selected, you get a season pass just for a little outdoor time. Also, the newest, most expensive gear isn’t the only way to have fun. Tech improves every 3-5 years giving you plenty of time to find used gear from current tech era that you can find for a reasonable price. Don’t not shred 🤘
Nov 15 2019 12:19AM
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HaydenB
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LonelyYeah just lost the charger to the camera I use to film skiing. Gonna cost 250$ to replace. Fml and my wallet


What camera uses a charger that’s 250 bucks?
Nov 15 2019 3:37PM
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Lonely
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BoostMaGWhat camera uses a charger that’s 250 bucks?

Panasonic mdh3
Nov 15 2019 5:02PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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LonelyPanasonic mdh3


https://www.ebay.com/i/163771981582?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=163771981582&targetid=541454025052&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9032847&poi=&campaignid=6470552628&mkgroupid=81274342767&rlsatarget=aud-622524041238:pla-541454025052&abcId=1139336&merchantid=6372274&gclid=Cj0KCQiAtrnuBRDXARIsABiN-7CYN2njXJTXJNX1ykqJ6iMATX8oqjiQKJ8QlOX1_OSgv4p_IDZlgWoaAvR1EALw_wcB

I found this with only a few min of searching but I'm sure if you look harder you can find an even better deal
Nov 16 2019 1:39AM
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Non_State_Actor
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Young_IPMCI get this is a joke, but do people actually spend 1-2k per season on gear?


I might spend a grand for a family of four? But I also spend a lot of time searching for deals and kids grow pretty fast, lucky to get two seasons out of skis or outerwear. This year they just need new base layers so that's good.
Nov 16 2019 1:58AM
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TOAST.
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mystery3I might spend a grand for a family of four? But I also spend a lot of time searching for deals and kids grow pretty fast, lucky to get two seasons out of skis or outerwear. This year they just need new base layers so that's good.


Sounds like next year is going to be expensive.
Nov 16 2019 10:48PM
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Non_State_Actor
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TOAST.Sounds like next year is going to be expensive.


Luckily they're pretty accepting of hand-me-downs and we have some friends with which to pass things back and forth but yeah, it may get costly next summer/autumn, it's worth it though.
Nov 17 2019 11:37AM
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Crust_Station
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didnt read the whole thread....

**This post was edited on Nov 17th 2019 at 3:09:01pm
Nov 17 2019 3:06PM
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tumbler_jay
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My bindings just completely exploded and I'm too broke to buy some new ones. The stoke levels are currently low... pray for ya boi
Nov 17 2019 10:29PM
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