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Distancedave
Posts: 22 - Karma: 42
Hi everyone,
I'm really stuck on which ski to get. I'm between the following: Atomic Bent'chetler 120, Atomic Backland 117, Salomon QST 118, and Armada Tracer 118 CHX (All in the longest size). I realise 3/4 of those are much more directional and the choice would be easy since I'd like a twin. But my concern is how well the Bent'chetler will perform in (for example) high speed crud. Anyone have an experience with any of these skis? Or has anyone had the Bent'chetler and compared it with one of the other 3? Seeing as the 3 directionals are all from Amer sports, is there even a noticeable difference between them?
If you have other similar suggestions for a deep days bug mountain charger, that's still playfulish... I'd be happy to hear :)
Thanks for any advice,
David
Oct 30 2019 4:35AM
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Posts: 943 - Karma: 3,320
Out of the three, I'd probably call the Backland 117 the chargiest out of the 4.

For me, I'd choose the ON3P Billy Goat if you're after a deep day ski. It charges and is still surfy and maneuverable. Imo it's the directional powder ski on the market. It'll do all you ask of it and more. If you're looking for a more freestyle powder ski, that's you really open up your options.
Oct 30 2019 6:44AM
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Topsen
Posts: 85 - Karma: 76
Cant go wrong with Moment or ON3P
Moment Wildcat is incredible versatile and still playful. ON3P Kartel/Woodsman/BG, depending on your style, are damper and heavier.
Oct 30 2019 8:39AM
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Distancedave
Posts: 22 - Karma: 42
Thanks for the recommendation. I've heard those to before, unfortunately they're pretty hard to get in Europe.

TopsenCant go wrong with Moment or ON3P
Moment Wildcat is incredible versatile and still playful. ON3P Kartel/Woodsman/BG, depending on your style, are damper and heavier.
Oct 30 2019 9:10AM
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Topsen
Posts: 85 - Karma: 76
No problem. I actually ordered them directly from the website to Europe as well. Talk to them beforehand and ask about customs for your country. Was really not as bad as I expected for Germany. Of course its still more expensive but the quality also is better.
DistancedaveThanks for the recommendation. I've heard those to before, unfortunately they're pretty hard to get in Europe.
Oct 30 2019 11:26AM
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patagonialuke
Posts: 1625 - Karma: 8,672
DistancedaveHi everyone,
I'm really stuck on which ski to get. I'm between the following: Atomic Bent'chetler 120, Atomic Backland 117, Salomon QST 118, and Armada Tracer 118 CHX (All in the longest size). I realise 3/4 of those are much more directional and the choice would be easy since I'd like a twin. But my concern is how well the Bent'chetler will perform in (for example) high speed crud. Anyone have an experience with any of these skis? Or has anyone had the Bent'chetler and compared it with one of the other 3? Seeing as the 3 directionals are all from Amer sports, is there even a noticeable difference between them?
If you have other similar suggestions for a deep days bug mountain charger, that's still playfulish... I'd be happy to hear :)
Thanks for any advice,
David


What's your height & weight, what skis have you used in the past, and what did you like / not like about them? There are lots of skis that could potentially work for you, but if you can provide a bit more info, people will be able to more easily narrow it down.
Oct 30 2019 12:45PM
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carsonuffens
Posts: 3 - Karma: 30
The bents are my favorite ski ever, they can do it all. They’re stiff enough to carve and go through crud but also soft enough to be playful. If you plan on touring at all, they’re a great ski for that because they’re so light. Best pow ski out there

**This post was edited on Oct 30th 2019 at 1:30:17pm
Oct 30 2019 1:29PM
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Get H E L L B E N T S
Nov 1 2019 4:39AM
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Pinkgloves
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Any reason why you limited your selection to those four? I mean if you want a twin, there are plenty more oprions out there in the same waistwidth. Also i wouldn't call the qst very directional, just from looking at the specs. Also the characteristics of skis often have little to do (with exceptions of course) with the brand let alone the parent company making them, and more with their design specifications.
DistancedaveHi everyone,
I'm really stuck on which ski to get. I'm between the following: Atomic Bent'chetler 120, Atomic Backland 117, Salomon QST 118, and Armada Tracer 118 CHX (All in the longest size). I realise 3/4 of those are much more directional and the choice would be easy since I'd like a twin. But my concern is how well the Bent'chetler will perform in (for example) high speed crud. Anyone have an experience with any of these skis? Or has anyone had the Bent'chetler and compared it with one of the other 3? Seeing as the 3 directionals are all from Amer sports, is there even a noticeable difference between them?
If you have other similar suggestions for a deep days bug mountain charger, that's still playfulish... I'd be happy to hear :)
Thanks for any advice,
David
Nov 1 2019 7:20AM
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brogoldenhair
Posts: 177 - Karma: 690
I wouldnt get the current bc120s for a deep days charger, way too light weight unless youre touring. The previous bentchetlers were darkhorse chargers especially in the longer lengths. I have a pair of 185cm 2016 (galaxy graphic) bentchetlers with wardens on them I could be convinced to sell. Also check out wildcats, which I'm sure has been said before
Nov 1 2019 1:11PM
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Distancedave
Posts: 22 - Karma: 42
PinkglovesAny reason why you limited your selection to those four? I mean if you want a twin, there are plenty more oprions out there in the same waistwidth. Also i wouldn't call the qst very directional, just from looking at the specs. Also the characteristics of skis often have little to do (with exceptions of course) with the brand let alone the parent company making them, and more with their design specifications.


Hey. good question and i guess it doesn't make much sense out of context. I actually have a pretty fantastic discount opportunity for the whole Amer sports group, plus I'd like to get a Shift with whatever ski I'm getting so it just makes sense to take it as a pack.
Nov 5 2019 1:12PM
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Distancedave
Posts: 22 - Karma: 42
patagonialukeWhat's your height & weight, what skis have you used in the past, and what did you like / not like about them? There are lots of skis that could potentially work for you, but if you can provide a bit more info, people will be able to more easily narrow it down.


I'm 192cm / 6.3ft, and 85kg / 187lb with gear. I've only had some K2 Shreditors 102 and Salomon QSTs 106. the Shreds were just way too soft and the QSTs are just a bit too stiff to have fun. Thats kind of my problem. i'd go for the BC120 right away but just worried it will be too much like the Shreds. I'll still have the QSTs so I don't really need another one thats that stiff.
Nov 5 2019 1:22PM
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