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J_BergI just bought a pair of Scarpa F1s off a kid who works at Scarpa in Boulder. He said, since the F1 has been out (3-4 years?) he sees 1 to 2 boa repairs come in a year. He mentioned they were normally boots that were beat to fuck.
I did some more research and found that the ski boot boas, especially on the F1, don't undergo the same stresses as the ones on snowboard boots do.
J_BergGranted I got a 31.0, they're not featherlites. Definitely light tho. I think for logging pow laps in meadows, and most midwinter CO bc skiing they'll be great. I've heard good things about them tho in steeps and what not.
I think what a lot of people lose sight of in the backcountry is the approach to your skiing style. Joe shmo who just got his first pair of tech bindings after using his alpine boots in daymakers, isn't gonna be dropping fat lines and shit.
Don't get me wrong though, I've done plenty of flips in my dynafits. So, keep it clean and I think touring gear can handle a lot more than most people believe. Just cuz Cody Townsend is on Solly shifts, doesn't mean you have to be. Oh btw, he still skis regular 10-12 tech bindings on big missions.
/rant over. I just hate seeing some threads where kids are so nervous about touring gear.
J_BergIll report back on the F1s super stoked about how simple the transitions are.
LiteratureWe've sold the hell out of the F1 for years at the shop I work at; we've seen one Boa come back mangled. Just one.
I think you'll be good.
J_BergI just bought a pair of Scarpa F1s off a kid who works at Scarpa in Boulder. He said, since the F1 has been out (3-4 years?) he sees 1 to 2 boa repairs come in a year. He mentioned they were normally boots that were beat to fuck.
I did some more research and found that the ski boot boas, especially on the F1, don't undergo the same stresses as the ones on snowboard boots do.
cydwhitYeah, another data point:
I beat the crap out of some Fischer Travers Carbons over the last four years and have not had any issue at all with the BOA system. Big fan.
And honestly, when I have broken a BOA thing, (on a bike shoe) it was super easy to fix, and the parts were readily available.
cozycono doubt the boa systems are proven and hold up really really well but I have a little story here to add regarding the Fischer traverse CC. a guy who is a guide here in the alps went on a longer trip with them. 4 days to be exact. crossing glaciers here and there. some crevasse rescue training, climbing, hiking, touring etc etc. no gnarly runs down. quite mellow terrain. on the 3rd day he wanted to fasten his boa system and bang, that knob you turn to tighten the boa cord ripped off. Fischer just glued that plastic knob onto the shell! why the fuck do they go the cheap route on a boot that retails for almost 800 euros? he had to ski down with a more or less loose right boot. that boot definitely had more than 500 days on it but still. why not screw it to the shell? at least don t glue it...
DingoSeanI mean... 500 days on a boot? Yeah that’s pretty much more than I’d expect that boot to last 5 to 10 times over...
cozycoI definitely exaggerated there. I reckon he had this pair for 1 1/2 to 2 seasons. So around 200-300 days. I think shells are estimated to outlive a liner by 3-4 times. so around 200-300 days.
are you replacing your boots after half a season?
cozycono doubt the boa systems are proven and hold up really really well but I have a little story here to add regarding the Fischer traverse CC. a guy who is a guide here in the alps went on a longer trip with them. 4 days to be exact. crossing glaciers here and there. some crevasse rescue training, climbing, hiking, touring etc etc. no gnarly runs down. quite mellow terrain. on the 3rd day he wanted to fasten his boa system and bang, that knob you turn to tighten the boa cord ripped off. Fischer just glued that plastic knob onto the shell! why the fuck do they go the cheap route on a boot that retails for almost 800 euros? he had to ski down with a more or less loose right boot. that boot definitely had more than 500 days on it but still. why not screw it to the shell? at least don t glue it...
Twinjibber77WTF did he even do? The only thing I could think of is to tie it off because there's (hopefully) enough slack? Duct tape it around the shin?
Gah.
J_BergYeah man. I have radicals and the dalbello lupos. For cruising pow and even in manky steeps, they're fine. 80% of the skiing of anyone who bc skis in the interior US is gonna be on low angle pow. You could ski that in leather boots if you have good technique.
