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Powder Skis!??!?!??!?!?!?

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tsingtaofanatic
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I know it's a generic question but I need some ideas. I need powder skis. And no, I dont plan on getting twoowts because I want to be sure I'm getting the best skis for the best price (sorry guys, no more reviews). Where I live now we get revelstoke level powder and I don't think my park skis'll cut it. I'll be doing my own research but it would still be great if you guys gave me some ideas of what I should get. The new Line's look sick as btw.
Sep 16 2019 9:13PM
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patagonialuke
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Could use more info:

What skis have you used in the past, what do you like / not like about them, and what do you prioritize in a ski? (e.g., stability in chop, low swing weight, soft flex for butters, stiff flex for big landings, surfy / loose feel, good edge hold, etc.)
Sep 16 2019 9:24PM
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leanmaster
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2016 Salomon rocker 2’s go hard
Sep 16 2019 10:11PM
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Chron_Rabbit
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try to get skis that are wider under foot
Sep 16 2019 10:48PM
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tsingtaofanatic
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patagonialukeCould use more info:

What skis have you used in the past, what do you like / not like about them, and what do you prioritize in a ski? (e.g., stability in chop, low swing weight, soft flex for butters, stiff flex for big landings, surfy / loose feel, good edge hold, etc.)


only ski ive really ridden in the past were some old nordicas. but they were old and not meant for powder, more of just an all mountain ski.
id like a ski that doesnt get caught in the snow all the time for sure. id like a ski thats very surfy, flexy yet stable (yeah, soft flex for butter fo sure). Something that is also light yet that again, wont get caught up in the snow. i want a ski thatll feel fucking amazing in powder. floaty for sure.
Sep 17 2019 12:06AM
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patagonialuke
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satanworshipperonly ski ive really ridden in the past were some old nordicas. but they were old and not meant for powder, more of just an all mountain ski.
id like a ski that doesnt get caught in the snow all the time for sure. id like a ski thats very surfy, flexy yet stable (yeah, soft flex for butter fo sure). Something that is also light yet that again, wont get caught up in the snow. i want a ski thatll feel fucking amazing in powder. floaty for sure.


I'd check out the Line Outline, K2 Catamaran, and Atomic BC 120 if you want skis that are crazy easy to pivot and slash around. They're not all that stable at speed, but are some of the surfiest pow skis on the market right now. The Outline is the best carver and easiest to butter, in my experience, but they're all pretty easy to butter. Catamaran is probably the absolute loosest, but also the heaviest (its taper helps make it swing weight feel lighter though). And the BC 120 is by far the lightest and the least damp on firm snow, but the easiest to flick around and spin.

For a similarly surfy feel but with a bit more stability, the Volkl Revolt 121 is a really easy ski to recommend. It never really feels out of place.

For a lighter ski that's really easy to flick around but that holds up a bit better at speed vs. the Outline, Catamaran, and BC 120, the Moment Wildcat is worth a look. Not a particularly soft ski, but its tips and tails are still pretty easy to butter.
Sep 17 2019 8:59AM
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CalumSKI
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if you want light get the pescados or BC 120s
most pow skis are super heavy but it all depends
i think im ordering Cats next week so i would suggest those too
Sep 17 2019 12:15PM
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Mackie98
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I just ordered the new Volkl Revolt 121's. I was in between those and the K2 Catamaran. Both are a good ski but i've never owned a pair of Volkl pow skis so I wanted to try them out.
Sep 17 2019 12:57PM
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Mackie98
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I just ordered the new Volkl Revolt 121's. I was in between those and the K2 Catamaran. Both are a good ski but i've never owned a pair of Volkl pow skis so I wanted to try them out.
Sep 17 2019 12:58PM
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CalumSKI
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Mackie98I just ordered the new Volkl Revolt 121's. I was in between those and the K2 Catamaran. Both are a good ski but i've never owned a pair of Volkl pow skis so I wanted to try them out.


they sound sick af
Sep 17 2019 12:59PM
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Non_State_Actor
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CalumSKImost pow skis are super heavy but it all depends


I don't really think that's true, mostly just Volkl and K2, the revolt and catamaran are like 500g heavier than most comparable skis.

OP-looked at Moment Bibby/Wildcats, or Meridian 117? 4FRNT Inthaynes? I just picked up a pair of Noctas, they look fun but I haven't mounted them yet.
Sep 17 2019 3:29PM
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OregonDead
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Where is is that you are getting these huge pow dumps? Is it in BC? Light is not always easier when it comes to pow skiing. With heavier snow it is probably better to have something with a little heft to it that also floats for a smoother ride. Light skis are great in super dry snow but tend to get bounced around more in heavier snow. I've never thought I had too much ski when it is a legit huge pow day
Sep 17 2019 5:19PM
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patagonialuke
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OregonDeadWhere is is that you are getting these huge pow dumps? Is it in BC? Light is not always easier when it comes to pow skiing. With heavier snow it is probably better to have something with a little heft to it that also floats for a smoother ride. Light skis are great in super dry snow but tend to get bounced around more in heavier snow. I've never thought I had too much ski when it is a legit huge pow day


yeah, this. It's why my personal favorite resort "pow" ski weighs 2400+ g.

Light skis can also be a ton of fun, but there are significant upsides and downsides to both lighter and heavier skis. Just comes down to priorities.
Sep 17 2019 6:30PM
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CalumSKI
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mystery3I don't really think that's true, mostly just Volkl and K2, the revolt and catamaran are like 500g heavier than most comparable skis.


Are u sure about that cause the cars ar only 2297 at the 178 length which is pretty light amongst pow skis other than the pescadero and bc120s
Sep 17 2019 8:54PM
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Non_State_Actor
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CalumSKIAre u sure about that cause the cars ar only 2297 at the 178 length which is pretty light amongst pow skis other than the pescadero and bc120s


I was certainly making a broad generalization, K2 skis are all pretty heavy. 2297 is what a lot of pow skis weigh at 188-192, it's pretty heavy for a 178. The Revolts from last year are like 2700g, this year's are lighter but not light.
Sep 17 2019 9:07PM
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SuckleBrick
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atomic bent chetler 120
Sep 17 2019 10:20PM
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tsingtaofanatic
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OregonDeadWhere is is that you are getting these huge pow dumps? Is it in BC? Light is not always easier when it comes to pow skiing. With heavier snow it is probably better to have something with a little heft to it that also floats for a smoother ride. Light skis are great in super dry snow but tend to get bounced around more in heavier snow. I've never thought I had too much ski when it is a legit huge pow day


Yup, you got that right. North BC, to be exact it's Shames Mountain. And aaah i see. Thank you for the info! Thank you everyone for the info! I will be looking at all the skis everyone recommended.
Sep 18 2019 1:28AM
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tsingtaofanatic
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mystery3I don't really think that's true, mostly just Volkl and K2, the revolt and catamaran are like 500g heavier than most comparable skis.

OP-looked at Moment Bibby/Wildcats, or Meridian 117? 4FRNT Inthaynes? I just picked up a pair of Noctas, they look fun but I haven't mounted them yet.


man the moment wildcats ARE SICK! Love the graphics on them too wow. Do you know much about them?
Sep 18 2019 2:33AM
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bongripperman the moment wildcats ARE SICK! Love the graphics on them too wow. Do you know much about them?


Never been on them but they receive almost universal praise.
Use the search if you're patient, read this:

https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2019-2020-moment-blister-pro-wildcat

And linked articles, should provide good background.
Sep 18 2019 2:39AM
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tsingtaofanatic
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mystery3Never been on them but they receive almost universal praise.
Use the search if you're patient, read this:

https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2019-2020-moment-blister-pro-wildcat

And linked articles, should provide good background.


oh man thanks a ton! i was looking for a detailed review on it and this is it. will for sure read through this these skis have caught my attention.
Sep 18 2019 2:59AM
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Moment
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bongripperoh man thanks a ton! i was looking for a detailed review on it and this is it. will for sure read through this these skis have caught my attention.

Let us know if you have any questions about the Wildcat, on here or on our website, we're always down to talk skiing.
Sep 19 2019 1:03PM
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tsingtaofanatic
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MomentLet us know if you have any questions about the Wildcat, on here or on our website, we're always down to talk skiing.


Hell yeah, thanks guys! I'm really considering the Wildcats now. Is there a clear difference between the 108's and just the classic Wildcats?
Sep 19 2019 2:21PM
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Moment
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bongripperHell yeah, thanks guys! I'm really considering the Wildcats now. Is there a clear difference between the 108's and just the classic Wildcats?


Classic Wildcat has been around forever (same ski as the Bibby) and has remained largely unchanged (other than construction and material upgrades).

The 108 Wildcat was introduced at the end of last season as a more 'daily driver friendly' version of the classic Wildcat. We swapped the aspen / pine core in the classic WC for an aspen / ash combo in the 108 WC. Adds a slight bit of weight, increases the dampness / stability and helps blast through afternoon chop and crud.

If you're looking for a powder ski (especially for revelstoke powder levels) I'd go with the classic WC. It'll still absolutely crush all the conditions you run into, but the extra width (over the 108) will provide you with greater float and powder enjoyment.
Sep 19 2019 3:09PM
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tsingtaofanatic
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MomentClassic Wildcat has been around forever (same ski as the Bibby) and has remained largely unchanged (other than construction and material upgrades).

The 108 Wildcat was introduced at the end of last season as a more 'daily driver friendly' version of the classic Wildcat. We swapped the aspen / pine core in the classic WC for an aspen / ash combo in the 108 WC. Adds a slight bit of weight, increases the dampness / stability and helps blast through afternoon chop and crud.

If you're looking for a powder ski (especially for revelstoke powder levels) I'd go with the classic WC. It'll still absolutely crush all the conditions you run into, but the extra width (over the 108) will provide you with greater float and powder enjoyment.


Oooh I see. Yeah because I heard the 108’s were more narrow. Thanks for the info! I am looking for more of a powder ski so if I do decide to get a pair it will most likely be the classic Wild Cats. I’m really searching for that float and surfy feeling for when I’m skiing powder, and seems like the Wild Cats are perfect for that.
Sep 19 2019 6:22PM
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