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Be Prepared (rant)

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WoFIowz
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Be prepared folks.

Seriously I don't understand how people do stuff without any knowledge of the consequences, without any supplies, and without any contingencies for when things go wrong. These stories plaster the news everyday. While the focus of this initial post applies to safety goals, it really can be in regards anything else.

Some examples:

-So many people go hiking in wilderness areas improperly dressed with only a water bottle, half charged cell phone, and maybe a sandwich. Oh and usually no survival or first aid skills either. And many times alone. Blows. My. Fucking. Mind.
-People who hike/climb beyond their skill level. It terrifies me how many people set out unprepared physically, mentally, and unskilled to tackle mountains. I bet park rangers hate when ill equipped tourists go after Longs Peak every year.
-People who enter avalanche areas without beacons and other supplies and without knowledge how to use them. Not to mention without skill in many lift serviced trails.
-People who ski alone in glades (very common I know, but it's stupid). Tree wells peoplessss!
-People who get on a boat but can't swim and don't wear a life jacket.
-Swimming in rough oceans without knowledge of how to react to rip currents
-Doing anything (climbing, skiing, boating, etc) without proper protective gear.
-Not wearing a seat belt. Too many people (adults and kids alike) still get ejected from cars. Seat belt is better than no seat belt. You will more often than not die if ejected. Some are lucky.

Feel free to add to this list or share any good stories. I read three in the news today wtf! Natural selection I guess.
May 27 2019 1:09PM
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eheath
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You're probably really fun to hang out with at parties.
May 27 2019 1:10PM
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tsingtaofanatic
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You're right. People need to think before they do shit like that, or else it just makes them retarded.
May 27 2019 1:32PM
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WoFIowz
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eheathYou're probably really fun to hang out with at parties.


I'm mormon. I don't party.
May 27 2019 2:44PM
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eheath
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runforlove2018I'm mormon. I don't party.

Ah that's why you want to control everyone's lives, gotcha.
May 27 2019 2:47PM
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WoFIowz
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eheathAh that's why you want to control everyone's lives, gotcha.

No the the control comes from my Jehovah aspect which I practice on Saturday and Sunday.
May 27 2019 2:59PM
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eheath
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runforlove2018No the the control comes from my Jehovah aspect which I practice on Saturday and Sunday.


But really, this thread is about you trying to tell people what to do, who are you to tell anyone what to do?
May 27 2019 2:59PM
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WoFIowz
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eheathBut really, this thread is about you trying to tell people what to do, who are you to tell anyone what to do?


Really this thread is a rant about people doing things unprepared and either getting killed or resulting in major resources to save their asses. All I'm saying is be prepared because there's so many people who don't and end up royally screwed. More of a combo PSA and rant.

What at all about that offends you? Unless you fit one of the aforementioned examples...

Free country bud. Free to be stupid. Free to tell folks they're stupid.
May 27 2019 3:26PM
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theabortionator
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/934243/Lion-King-Be-Prepared-1080p-HD
May 27 2019 3:35PM
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Titus69
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Look at Mr. Perfect over here, sounds like you'd have to interview someone first before being theyre friend.
May 27 2019 3:36PM
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eheath
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runforlove2018Really this thread is a rant about people doing things unprepared and either getting killed or resulting in major resources to save their asses. All I'm saying is be prepared because there's so many people who don't and end up royally screwed. More of a combo PSA and rant.

What at all about that offends you? Unless you fit one of the aforementioned examples...

Free country bud. Free to be stupid. Free to tell folks they're stupid.


I don't think anyone has the right to tell anyone what to do, why do you even care about what other people do? Everyone would be so much happier if they just left each other alone, if someone wants to make a bad decision that only affects them or other people who also made a bad decision, who are you to tell them they can't make that choice?
May 27 2019 3:52PM
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Pigeon.
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i like ur username
May 27 2019 3:53PM
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Govygen_gourmet
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Yeah and wtf are you some kind of Boy Scout? You sound like a guy I used to work with who was home schooled, creepy asf probably a serial murder, and have 0 social skills, hasn’t ever been laid in their life.
May 27 2019 5:33PM
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Redrobin
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eheathI don't think anyone has the right to tell anyone what to do, why do you even care about what other people do? Everyone would be so much happier if they just left each other alone, if someone wants to make a bad decision that only affects them or other people who also made a bad decision, who are you to tell them they can't make that choice?


I mean some dumbass gaper dad decided to duck a rope and go out of bounds during a full on blizzard at Steamboat this past season. Dude had absolutely no backcountry experience and did not know the area at all. Man wound up several miles away in the middle of nowhere. It took ski patrol over 2 days to rescue him and they even had to call the search off around 2am the first night because conditions were so bad. Dude's bad decision affected more than just himself or "other people who also made a bad decision" because I'm positive ski patrol would much rather not be freezing their asses off in the middle of the night trying to find him.
May 27 2019 9:42PM
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eheath
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RedrobinI mean some dumbass gaper dad decided to duck a rope and go out of bounds during a full on blizzard at Steamboat this past season. Dude had absolutely no backcountry experience and did not know the area at all. Man wound up several miles away in the middle of nowhere. It took ski patrol over 2 days to rescue him and they even had to call the search off around 2am the first night because conditions were so bad. Dude's bad decision affected more than just himself or "other people who also made a bad decision" because I'm positive ski patrol would much rather not be freezing their asses off in the middle of the night trying to find him.


Did you even read my post? Obviously I don't think it's okay for someone to make a decision that affects others in a bad way, like your example, but I'm just stating in general, people should stop worrying about what other people are doing.
May 27 2019 9:46PM
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WoFIowz
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eheathI don't think anyone has the right to tell anyone what to do, why do you even care about what other people do? Everyone would be so much happier if they just left each other alone, if someone wants to make a bad decision that only affects them or other people who also made a bad decision, who are you to tell them they can't make that choice?

I probably shouldn't try to argue with keyboard warriors, but well here goes...

Once again not telling people what to do, but rather ranting about it. Didn't not expect such a harsh response from folks but I guess I must have offended some people in here.

If you someone wants to go get themselves killed, that's their prerogative. As I initially said. Natural selection.

However what you're ignoring are the implications of those poorly executed decisions which is what I was getting at. These things I've mentioned never affect just the people involved, in stark contrast to your quoted text above. Millions of taxpayer dollars are spent every year on search and rescue for people who made poor decisions whilst being unprepared. Lives of rescuers are risked and lost each year in rescue services. The emotional toll on victim's friends and families is unfathomable. Millions of dollars are lost on ems response, transport to emergency rooms, and trauma activation every year; many highly preventable. Losing patients also negativity affects health care workers and first responders. I could keep going on but have better shit to do than argue with you.
May 27 2019 10:12PM
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WoFIowz
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Govygen_gourmetYeah and wtf are you some kind of Boy Scout? You sound like a guy I used to work with who was home schooled, creepy asf probably a serial murder, and have 0 social skills, hasn’t ever been laid in their life.


Come on over and find out. I could always use a new skin suit.
May 27 2019 10:14PM
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oldmanski
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eheathYou're probably really fun to hang out with at parties.


runforlove2018I'm mormon. I don't party.


You know why you take two Mormons to a party?

If you only take one, they will drink all the beer!
May 27 2019 10:21PM
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Jems
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runforlove2018-Not wearing a seat belt. Too many people (adults and kids alike) still get ejected from cars. Seat belt is better than no seat belt. You will more often than not die if ejected. Some are lucky.

I fucking HATE when people don’t wear their seatbelts, like does it hurt you to wear one

I don’t drive people unless they put their seatbelt
May 27 2019 10:26PM
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Jems
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Govygen_gourmetYeah and wtf are you some kind of Boy Scout? You sound like a guy I used to work with who was home schooled, creepy asf probably a serial murder, and have 0 social skills, hasn’t ever been laid in their life.


you got a problem with boy scouts?
May 27 2019 10:27PM
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oldmanski
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theabortionatorhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/934243/Lion-King-Be-Prepared-1080p-HD


eheathDid you even read my post? Obviously I don't think it's okay for someone to make a decision that affects others in a bad way, like your example, but I'm just stating in general, people should stop worrying about what other people are doing.


I do agree with you, but........ I could care less about what others are doing but when it interferes with my life, or someone else’s due to their choice or lack of preparedness than it becomes an issue. OP is just stating a good point, if you aren’t prepared than you rely on the people who are in which costs money and risks others.
May 27 2019 10:36PM
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oldmanski
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theabortionatorhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/934243/Lion-King-Be-Prepared-1080p-HD


Luck favors the prepared
May 27 2019 10:37PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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me: *goes on 1 mile hike in the city with my water bottle*
fogdart at the trailhead: OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU DIDNT BRING YOUR FIRST AID KIT, TWO SETS OF NEW CLOTHES, AVALANCHE SAFETY, 5 DAY RATION AND EMERGENCY SHELTER. I'M LITERALLY SHAKING RN YOU COULD DIE!!!
May 29 2019 12:33PM
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Idahoe
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this is a troll no one is this much of a buzzkill.
May 29 2019 1:22PM
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theabortionator
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OP is your friend's dad that doesnt understand why your parents let you hit the trick park on your skis and do flippidy dos on the trampoline.

Yo OP. I've climbed 3 foot ladders without a harness, driven over the speed limit, and I've eaten gas station burritos.

I may be reckless but it's my life!!!
May 29 2019 1:31PM
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OregonDead
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OP god gave you what u need but u are embarrassed.
Get outside naked and respect the creator you chump.
What r you going to do when life catches you off guard without all ur fancy clothes?
Be prepared!
May 29 2019 1:52PM
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WoFIowz
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TRVP_ANGELme: *goes on 1 mile hike in the city with my water bottle*
fogdart at the trailhead: OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU DIDNT BRING YOUR FIRST AID KIT, TWO SETS OF NEW CLOTHES, AVALANCHE SAFETY, 5 DAY RATION AND EMERGENCY SHELTER. I'M LITERALLY SHAKING RN YOU COULD DIE!!!

Fuck off pussy. Change your name
May 29 2019 4:44PM
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WoFIowz
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OregonDeadOP god gave you what u need but u are embarrassed.
Get outside naked and respect the creator you chump.
What r you going to do when life catches you off guard without all ur fancy clothes?
Be prepared!

I'm not sure what any of this means?
May 29 2019 4:50PM
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SnickleFriz
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FogdartI probably shouldn't try to argue with keyboard warriors, but well here goes...

Once again not telling people what to do, but rather ranting about it. Didn't not expect such a harsh response from folks but I guess I must have offended some people in here.

If you someone wants to go get themselves killed, that's their prerogative. As I initially said. Natural selection.

However what you're ignoring are the implications of those poorly executed decisions which is what I was getting at. These things I've mentioned never affect just the people involved, in stark contrast to your quoted text above. Millions of taxpayer dollars are spent every year on search and rescue for people who made poor decisions whilst being unprepared. Lives of rescuers are risked and lost each year in rescue services. The emotional toll on victim's friends and families is unfathomable. Millions of dollars are lost on ems response, transport to emergency rooms, and trauma activation every year; many highly preventable. Losing patients also negativity affects health care workers and first responders. I could keep going on but have better shit to do than argue with you.

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/785033/Rant-About-Whatever

Idahoethis is a troll no one is this much of a buzzkill.

Oh no; he is.
May 29 2019 5:00PM
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SteezeOnAJawnt
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theabortionatorYo OP. I've climbed 3 foot ladders without a harness, driven over the speed limit, and I've eaten gas station burritos.

I may be reckless but it's my life!!!


To add on, OP sounds like hes never drank from the yard hose growing up.
May 29 2019 6:15PM
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iFlip
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I’ve done every single thing on your list - and all of them very extensively. Except not wearing a seatbelt. I always wear a seatbelt. And I also have significant knowledge in all the disciplines so I guess I don’t count, but I want to be included.

Also, I must say that each of OPs responses have been on-point. Well done turning each of them around OP.
May 29 2019 7:32PM
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Titus69
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iFlipI’ve done every single thing on your list - and all of them very extensively. Except not wearing a seatbelt. I always wear a seatbelt. And I also have significant knowledge in all the disciplines so I guess I don’t count, but I want to be included.

Also, I must say that each of OPs responses have been on-point. Well done turning each of them around OP.


Lol exact same, skied plenty of days without a beacon through gates (can explain), got lost on a glade and hiked up a mountain across from the ski resort, in 4th grade with my older brother and friends, swam out in the Atlantic without a flotation device (snorkeling), and other stupid shit. Since all this I've learned to be very prepared and try to have what I need if things go wrong. Tomahawked alone at Brighton out of a gate, was fine but only people around were people sledding down at the base of the bowl, got a beacon next day and only ski mellow out of gate stuff alone. I guess it helps a person's well being to think ahead sometimes.
May 29 2019 9:34PM
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ChadThundercock
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Delete this thread, this guy is a fucking asshat
May 30 2019 2:10AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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lol
Oct 21 2019 11:16AM
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AndrewGravesSV
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Why is this thread so toxic towards this guy? All he's saying is that you should respect how dangerous the outdoors can potentially be and that most people don't realize that. We shit on gapers all the time for endangering themselves and others by not knowing park etiquette, this is the same issue but broader in scope.
Oct 21 2019 12:36PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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I agree op.

In nz we have a tonne of Asian tourists who go out into the wops in Jeans then get found a week later it's like c'mon man.

At the same time though, I ski backcountry and glades by myself, so yeah
Oct 23 2019 2:41AM
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shinbangclan
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ChadThundercockDelete this thread, this guy is a fucking asshat


everything op said is correct...
whats wrong with you guys?
Oct 23 2019 8:54AM
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iced
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AndrewGravesSVWhy is this thread so toxic towards this guy? All he's saying is that you should respect how dangerous the outdoors can potentially be and that most people don't realize that. We shit on gapers all the time for endangering themselves and others by not knowing park etiquette, this is the same issue but broader in scope.


probably because people want to be opinion-buddies with e-heath
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CalumSKI
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