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Does womens skiing suck?

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porra
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I just watched the audi nines recap and everybody is throwing down crazy spins except for the female skiers, who seemed to win one of the biggest big air competitions with sw 540s.....
Is womens freeskiing regressing? In 2011 they threw sw 10s and in 2013 they trew doubles...
Did audi nines only feel like 2 females were worthy of competing?
I know a lot of girls are injured but seriously is the state of the sport that low?

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/932376/Contest-Edit---The-Audi-Nines-19

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Apr 30 2019 2:52AM
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petter100
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I agree womens skiing sucks. Girls who ski start of as posers and then after getting sponsored way to easy they are forced to learn sw 540. Its not enough competition between them or pressure from sponsors to progress
Apr 30 2019 3:17AM
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porra
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petter100I agree womens skiing sucks. Girls who ski start of as posers and then after getting sponsored way to easy they are forced to learn sw 540. Its not enough competition between them or pressure from sponsors to progress


You might have a point.
Apr 30 2019 3:39AM
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WoFIowz
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Does women's skiing recognize transgender individuals?
Apr 30 2019 4:00AM
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*TURBONERD*
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Wow, what an original thread.
Apr 30 2019 4:01AM
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porra
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runforlove2018Does women's skiing recognize transgender individuals?


If they do I know a few people who would dominate!
Apr 30 2019 4:15AM
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neleson
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Dont make this turn into an other shitshow
Apr 30 2019 4:47AM
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ChadThundercock
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I want a shitshow
Apr 30 2019 6:44AM
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PsychicMigration
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Imagine if you could just have a rich daddy get whatever you want post some fly insta pics as a poser and bang team Oakley by Friday.
Apr 30 2019 8:47AM
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jezzusa
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petter100I agree womens skiing sucks. Girls who ski start of as posers and then after getting sponsored way to easy they are forced to learn sw 540. Its not enough competition between them or pressure from sponsors to progress

DUDE!!! amen brother! girls gets sponsored way to easy compared to guys, so many guys are stupid good and are just local jibbers doing it as a hobby when they have time.
Apr 30 2019 9:43AM
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jezzusa
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nelesonDont make this turn into an other shitshow

Its the only way bro, we most be able to talk about things like this!
Apr 30 2019 9:46AM
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freestyler540
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None of you watch this years X-games??? It was off the fucking hook. That was the most exciting women's performance Ive ever seen. To all you dudes dissing the women in events, sign yourself up to fucking contest and really experience the stress of competition. Your perception will change.
Apr 30 2019 11:07AM
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Twig
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No. It's as simple as that.

I considered deleting this thread because this topic has a) been discussed to death, and to be frank b) is detrimental to the community as a whole, but for now, I'ma leave it and leave this here. Get learned:

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/870531/Girl-Skiers-who-shred

Oh and as mentioned, watch X Games if you like comps.

**This post was edited on Apr 30th 2019 at 2:13:52pm
Apr 30 2019 11:24AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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Johanne Kili throws one of the cleanest sw 5 nose ever
Member on NS: Women skiing sucks

Apr 30 2019 11:43AM
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Sharkie14
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As far as competitive skiing for women goes, it’s a very small group to begin with. I think there is plenty of potential out there but women are often either discouraged early on OR they don’t know enough about it/about opportunities. I agree, a lot of female skiers are defeinitely motivated by insta fame or whatever. But there are some DOPE female skiers out there that can shred just as hard. We just don’t see a lot of it. For example, I think there is ONE slvsh game with girls *please correct me if I’m wrong* and like you said only two female competitors at the nines. I see so many bad ass girl skiers on Instagram and on NS but not in widely marketed events.

The lack of exposure definitely goes hand-in-hand with the fact that skiing is just not as popular among women and that’s fine. But I would never go so far as to say that women’s skiing sucks. You just sound completely ignorant and are asking for trouble.
Apr 30 2019 1:20PM
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Billiards.
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I have a few thoughts on this. For one, the barriers to entry for women in skiing seem more significant than we can possibly wrap our heads around. The culture of support is just not there the way it is for us guys, and this is just one of many things that prevents more participation from non-males. Also, girls definitely shred. I once did the Aspen open and the coolest thing I could muster on that course was a switch 7 to switch 5 (like 10+ years ago). If I am correct, Kelly Sildaru did both way switch 10's this year at X games. Skiing back to back into those jumps switch was horrifying and I would guess 99.999% of the members on this page could not even fathom it. All this together, women skiers deserve a lot of credit and some absolutely rip. However, I will admit that certain contests do disappoint me. With the amount of talent in women's skiing, I was admittedly bummed af to see the best trick in audi 9s was a switch 5. I hope that contest organizers put more effort into female recruitment because a switch 5 to the knuckle does not represent women's skiing well. That was a bit of a shame.
Apr 30 2019 1:45PM
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porra
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freestyler540None of you watch this years X-games??? It was off the fucking hook. That was the most exciting women's performance Ive ever seen. To all you dudes dissing the women in events, sign yourself up to fucking contest and really experience the stress of competition. Your perception will change.


Sure thats what I mean, this years audi nines wasnt really "off the fucking hook", what happened?
Apr 30 2019 1:54PM
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porra
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TwigNo. It's as simple as that.

I considered deleting this thread because this topic has a) been discussed to death, and to be frank b) is detrimental to the community as a whole, but for now, I'ma leave it and leave this here. Get learned:

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/870531/Girl-Skiers-who-shred

Oh and as mentioned, watch X Games if you like comps.


Thanks for not censoring I guess. I find this topic interesting and I know others do too. I really dont hate on womens skiing, on the contrary in the last couple of seasons I have been enjoying womens skiing more than mens in some competitions BUT I think this years audi nines was a bit of a step back in more ways than one (as I mentioned above).

Sure skiing is all about having fun and love and all that but alos its a spectator sport where we look for entertainment and part of it is in talking about the sport and analysing it! (And obviously its gonna be interesting when the difference in level between men and women is so big)

**This post was edited on Apr 30th 2019 at 2:15:03pm
Apr 30 2019 2:03PM
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petter100
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Billiards.I have a few thoughts on this. For one, the barriers to entry for women in skiing seem more significant than we can possibly wrap our heads around. The culture of support is just not there the way it is for us guys, and this is just one of many things that prevents more participation from non-males. Also, girls definitely shred. I once did the Aspen open and the coolest thing I could muster on that course was a switch 7 to switch 5 (like 10+ years ago). If I am correct, Kelly Sildaru did both way switch 10's this year at X games. Skiing back to back into those jumps switch was horrifying and I would guess 99.999% of the members on this page could not even fathom it. All this together, women skiers deserve a lot of credit and some absolutely rip. However, I will admit that certain contests do disappoint me. With the amount of talent in women's skiing, I was admittedly bummed af to see the best trick in audi 9s was a switch 5. I hope that contest organizers put more effort into female recruitment because a switch 5 to the knuckle does not represent women's skiing well. That was a bit of a shame.


so with that logic, I can't complain about my doctor because he has more knowledge about the human body then me? I'm pretty sure your 99.999% is wrong btw, its weird to stop people from debating/discuss based on their skiing level. A lot of women skiers are great but the girl ski community has some priority issues.
Apr 30 2019 2:04PM
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oldmanski
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Women shred and will do to the end of time....... just an off season for some and lots of young faces showing up, just give it some time.
Apr 30 2019 2:05PM
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Sharkie14
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petter100so with that logic, I can't complain about my doctor because he has more knowledge about the human body then me? I'm pretty sure your 99.999% is wrong btw, its weird to stop people from debating/discuss based on their skiing level. A lot of women skiers are great but the girl ski community has some priority issues.


What do you mean when you say “priority issues”?
Apr 30 2019 2:06PM
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Chef.Bayardee
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kelly sildaru is a boss and she def throws down
Apr 30 2019 2:10PM
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davetron78
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human physiology 101; males will always be the physically dominant ones, females are in their own league of physicality, its just a male-dominated sport that goes along with the entailing social construct
Apr 30 2019 2:20PM
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petter100
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TwigNo. It's as simple as that.

I considered deleting this thread because this topic has a) been discussed to death, and to be frank b) is detrimental to the community as a whole, but for now, I'ma leave it and leave this here. Get learned:

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/870531/Girl-Skiers-who-shred

Oh and as mentioned, watch X Games if you like comps.

**This post was edited on Apr 30th 2019 at 2:13:52pm

If its that simple, why did audi nines only show two female skiers doing two pretty basic tricks even for women? it was more then two girls competing. it's obvious that this is not a simple question and it needs to be discussed openly by everyone in the sport. womens skiing have problems and they will not be solved by deleting threads, discussions or arguments.

**This post was edited on Apr 30th 2019 at 6:45:14pm
Apr 30 2019 6:14PM
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KilaTsunami
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lol found the kid that cant 450 off
May 1 2019 1:09AM
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ReturnToMonkey
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Women's skiing does not suck, as a matter of fact this year they threw down harder than ever. More women can double than ever and there's a huge variety in many women's bag of tricks.
What did suck was the women representation at Audi Nines. Dunno why, and it really sucked, but it's just one event. One event doesn't represent everything
May 1 2019 1:58AM
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skiguy04
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ChadThundercockI want it up my shitter


*fixed
May 1 2019 3:01AM
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jezzusa
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I would like to hear what female skiers think about this. if they have any thought on why they only showed two clips of female skiers in the audi nines. I also think female pro skiers should be more active in threads like this so they can explain how the female ski industry works from their perspective.
May 1 2019 5:01AM
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schommi97
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I just think that it's a slow process, boring at times. When I was a kid I remember watching big air comps and a simple sw 360 could get you on the podium, most of the times without grabs or just a 0.3 second touch of safety. It seems like the girls know when to go big or just don't go at all. If you watch the X Games they usually throw it down and they are really progressing into doubles. It ain't your mainstream cork rotation but at least it's something, I for example really like Maggie Voisin's dub flat. but yeah their comps are kinda boring sometimes lol
May 1 2019 6:50AM
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jps2.0
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the top 3 women( sarah hoefflin, Mathilde Gremaud, Kelly Sildaru) are miles above anyone else with doubles vs a 540
May 1 2019 7:26AM
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porra
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Sharkie14As far as competitive skiing for women goes, it’s a very small group to begin with. I think there is plenty of potential out there but women are often either discouraged early on OR they don’t know enough about it/about opportunities. I agree, a lot of female skiers are defeinitely motivated by insta fame or whatever. But there are some DOPE female skiers out there that can shred just as hard. We just don’t see a lot of it. For example, I think there is ONE slvsh game with girls *please correct me if I’m wrong* and like you said only two female competitors at the nines. I see so many bad ass girl skiers on Instagram and on NS but not in widely marketed events.

The lack of exposure definitely goes hand-in-hand with the fact that skiing is just not as popular among women and that’s fine. But I would never go so far as to say that women’s skiing sucks. You just sound completely ignorant and are asking for trouble.


I never said that it suck. I am simple asking this community what they think. I agree with you, you have good points!
May 1 2019 8:55AM
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porra
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2jZswaphuman physiology 101; males will always be the physically dominant ones, females are in their own league of physicality, its just a male-dominated sport that goes along with the entailing social construct


wow wow wow, wait.... are you saying that we are not equal? Thats pretty balsy these dayzzzzz.....
May 1 2019 8:59AM
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tsingtaofanatic
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i feel like ive seen this thread before...
many times before....
May 1 2019 2:24PM
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ChadThundercock
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satanworshipperi feel like ive seen this thread before...
many times before....


Threads like this are why no pink names come on here
May 1 2019 2:27PM
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jessejames
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By percentage, more woman, if not far more woman (competitive skiers) are getting injured than the men. So, with this in mind. Who is pushing themselves harder? Men can often get away with taking a hard knuckle with little to no consequence, while the same knuckle might blow a female skiers knee. When you know your body can take a little more beating, you will be more likely to huck a new trick and just see what happens. On a whole, it is important that woman are a little more calculated in the approach to learning new tricks. It really is amazing that woman are hitting the same big jumps in the big comps. We know that woman are amazing athletes. Just look at figure skating or gymnastics. Based on what I saw in the x-games this year, woman are closing the gap. Kelly's rail skiing was smoother than many of the men's and she was not the only female that threw a blind 6 of the canon rail. Over the past few years I have seen more effort go into making knuckles safer (with the exception of park cities big line last year). The better/safer we can build the features, I believe this will open up the doors to female progression. I would argue that while it might be more difficult for female skiers to progress, they are pushing themselves just as hard if not harder than men.
May 1 2019 2:45PM
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skiguy04
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If the female skier is a bladie she is gonna know how to do good tricks
May 1 2019 4:50PM
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Weak troll is weak
May 1 2019 4:51PM
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Cyanicenine
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The money isn't there, and the culture isn't there either. Most the women competing also have to work full time at a real job. It's far less likely that you'll have parents enrolling their little girl to freestyle camps and coaching from a young age (like kelly sildaru) which is what you need in order to compete at the level you are expecting. If you do the math most of the ex women pros are worse off in life after their ski career, their bodies are broken, they have medical bill debt, and they have to try to find a new career in a job market that they are now 10 years experience behind in. Competing at a pro level doesn't make sense unless you've been training since you could walk and have some sort of guarantee of monetary success, even then as a parent you're probably better off training your daughters to be the next chess genius or something else that is far less risky.
May 1 2019 5:46PM
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LivingDaLife
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CyanicenineThe money isn't there, and the culture isn't there either. Most the women competing also have to work full time at a real job. It's far less likely that you'll have parents enrolling their little girl to freestyle camps and coaching from a young age (like kelly sildaru) which is what you need in order to compete at the level you are expecting. If you do the math most of the ex women pros are worse off in life after their ski career, their bodies are broken, they have medical bill debt, and they have to try to find a new career in a job market that they are now 10 years experience behind in. Competing at a pro level doesn't make sense unless you've been training since you could walk and have some sort of guarantee of monetary success, even then as a parent you're probably better off training your daughters to be the next chess genius or something else that is far less risky.


It's not required to start at a young age, especially at the low level that female comp skiing is at. See Sarah Hoefflin for example, she didn't start skiing until well into her 20s and she's at the top of the game. Maybe she's an exception, but she shows that it doesn't take long to get good enough to dominate at that level. I don't know how she financed it, so that's another question...
May 1 2019 7:40PM
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skiguy04
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CyanicenineThe money isn't there, and the culture isn't there either. Most the women competing also have to work full time at a real job. It's far less likely that you'll have parents enrolling their little girl to freestyle camps and coaching from a young age (like kelly sildaru) which is what you need in order to compete at the level you are expecting. If you do the math most of the ex women pros are worse off in life after their ski career, their bodies are broken, they have medical bill debt, and they have to try to find a new career in a job market that they are now 10 years experience behind in. Competing at a pro level doesn't make sense unless you've been training since you could walk and have some sort of guarantee of monetary success, even then as a parent you're probably better off training your daughters to be the next chess genius or something else that is far less risky.

I love women’s skiing
It gets me stoked to see tricks no matter what

there is female ski racers out there too - somehow women having broken bodies from skiing and having to work a real job to pay the way requires more sympathy than men?

Should do the big tricks before you get the big cheque... not the other way

In fact I’d say the opposite... much rather ski with a girl than a guy && she getting pro tips from me...

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May 3 2019 4:22PM
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J_Christoph
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nelesonDont make this turn into an other shitshow


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