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Can’t ski in 3piece boots

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sashko
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I skied 3piece design boots most of the time in past (Dalbello Krypton 120 and then 130). But this season I mostly skied Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD. Today I tried my krypton for the first time this year. And I felt like I had forgotten how to ski. I had hard time to get skis on edge and make a good powerful turn for first couple of runs. I figured out that in atomics I didn’t need to immediately throw the whole body in front of the boot to flex it. Instead I can start low and add pressure to it during the turn. But with kryptons it’s totally different story — I need to throw myself in front from the start and just turn the skis. Is it just me or anyone else feels the same? I fear now that I’m going to have that how-to-ski feel every time i swap the boots. Will overlap boot fix this issue?
Apr 13 2019 4:25PM
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BrawnTrends
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Just get the regular Hawx Ultra if you liked the feel of the XTD.
Apr 13 2019 4:46PM
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onenerdykid
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BrawnTrendsJust get the regular Hawx Ultra if you liked the feel of the XTD.


That's why we made them ;)
Apr 13 2019 7:08PM
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scratchskier321
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It's just because the krypton 2 absolutely awful. the original krypton was way better. new roxa 3 piece is better than all of them.
Apr 13 2019 9:14PM
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shin-bang
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Just today I’ve experience the opposite. A 130 3 piece will be softer than a traditional 130 in most cases. I just went from a 3 piece to a traditional and felt like I was hitting a brick wall rather than the more progressive 3 piece feel.

I’ve jumped around from 3 different boots this season due to other issues but it seems like the more time I’ve had on each one, I’m satisfied regardless
Apr 13 2019 9:44PM
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OhJay
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It's not that you can't ski 3 piece boots, it just sounds like you prefer to ski in a more forward stance and drive the skis, which overlap boots are better at (and basically what you discovered). 3 piece/cabrio boots do better skiing laterally to take advantage of today's shaped skis, meaning tip the skis on edge and let the sidecut do more of the turning rather than driving the tips. This tends to be complemented with a more centered/balance stance.

My first couple days on my Krypton 130, I too tried to get forward and crush the front of my boots like I was doing in my rental (overlap) boots and Full Tilts (I could get forward on full tilts cuz of the softer flex and way more forward lean), which was doing nothing for my turns. Then I realized what I mentioned above. Utilize the lateral stiffness of the boot, tip it on edge and let it rip. I'm still pressuring the front of my boots throughout the turn to keep me forward, but again, I'm not crushing it and trying to drive the skis. Cabrio boots just won't engage the tips as well as overlaps, but I'll take the trade off of having a more 'suspension' feel from the tongue in anything off piste snow instead of sore shins from the brick wall feel of overlaps.

If I were on the East and spent more of my time on groomers with burly carving skis, then I'd probably be in overlap boots.
Apr 14 2019 10:56AM
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