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Looking for a full rocker/flat camber ski

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Austintexas25
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I’m looking for a full rocker/flat camber ski to compliment a pair of ON3P Billy Goats. I’m 5’9” 135lbs and I’d consider myself advanced/expert.

I live in the PNW and I’m looking for a ski that will allow me to ski backwards, forwards, sideways, and upside down with ease while still being chargy. I find full rocker to be the best for this but there don’t seem to be a lot of options out there. What do y’all think? Help me find my dream ski
Apr 5 2019 6:25PM
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Non_State_Actor
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Austintexas25I’m looking for a full rocker/flat camber ski to compliment a pair of ON3P Billy Goats. I’m 5’9” 135lbs and I’d consider myself advanced/expert.

I live in the PNW and I’m looking for a ski that will allow me to ski backwards, forwards, sideways, and upside down with ease while still being chargy. I find full rocker to be the best for this but there don’t seem to be a lot of options out there. What do y’all think? Help me find my dream ski


What width are you looking for?

Moment Meridian 107 or 117
4FRNT Inthayne
Black Crows Nocta, Corvus and Daemon too but the Corvus has little tail and the Daemon tails are flat.
Volkl has a couple too
Apr 5 2019 7:55PM
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Austintexas25
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mystery3What width are you looking for?


More on the fat side 108-120. I’m comfortable on hardback with a wide ski even though it’s a little weird.
The volkl level 2 seemed like a good option even tho they’re a little hard to find now. Any expirence?
Apr 5 2019 9:16PM
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Apr 5 2019 10:13PM
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shin-bang
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Have Scott make you some caylors. You would love them

honestly devastators tho
Apr 6 2019 1:16AM
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Non_State_Actor
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shin-bangHave Scott make you some caylors. You would love them

honestly devastators tho


I forget about devastators, personally I'm a little put off by their weight but people that ride them seem to love them, Hojis and Renegades are also reverse camber skis from 4FRNT.
Apr 6 2019 2:18AM
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Austintexas25
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shin-bangHave Scott make you some caylors. You would love them


Know anywhere I could find some Caylors?
Apr 6 2019 9:42AM
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shin-bang
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Austintexas25Know anywhere I could find some Caylors?


Honestly, no :( most people who have them don’t want to part with them and they’re hard to find. I would say message Scott (iggyskier) and see if there’s any other options. Caylor was similar to the jefferey, Jeffery is similar to Kartel 116.

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Apr 6 2019 12:05PM
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-arc-Just stick with On3p man. Check out the Kartel 108. Amazing all-mountain jib machine. Definitely has the back bone to charge.


Why the hate on the Kartel doh?
Apr 6 2019 8:23PM
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Non_State_Actor
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-arc-Why the hate on the Kartel doh?


I'm not reading any hate on the Kartel??? OP is looking for a reverse camber/no camber ski and the Kartel is rocker/camber/rocker
Apr 7 2019 3:00AM
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NickyyyNutttty
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I have no experience with this ski. But what about Candide 5.0. 122 mm rocker/flat/rocker. 1920 g per ski. Directional Twin-Tip. Looks like a playful hard charger to me.
Apr 7 2019 10:35PM
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Austintexas25
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NickyyyNuttttyI have no experience with this ski. But what about Candide 5.0. 122 mm rocker/flat/rocker. 1920 g per ski. Directional Twin-Tip. Looks like a playful hard charger to me.


I have actually tried the 5.0 that’s the main reason I’m looking for a 0 camber ski. I loved how easy it was to play around and spin. The ski was just light so it gets deflected by trashy 3D snow that we get here a lot at Mt.Hood
Apr 7 2019 10:54PM
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NickyyyNutttty
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Austintexas25I have actually tried the 5.0 that’s the main reason I’m looking for a 0 camber ski. I loved how easy it was to play around and spin. The ski was just light so it gets deflected by trashy 3D snow that we get here a lot at Mt.Hood


What do you mean by 3D snow? Cause I thought that ski was great at charging through the tracket out powder?! If that had trouble I can't imagine what the bent chetler is like.
Apr 7 2019 11:13PM
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Austintexas25
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NickyyyNuttttyWhat do you mean by 3D snow? Cause I thought that ski was great at charging through the tracket out powder?! If that had trouble I can't imagine what the bent chetler is like.


Rough, wet, and tracked out snow. To be fair I was using the ski on a warmer spring day with ice in the morning and corn in the afternoon because that’s when I started looking for skis. They were stable and fast when the snow was smooth tho
Apr 7 2019 11:18PM
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shin-bang
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Austintexas25Rough, wet, and tracked out snow. To be fair I was using the ski on a warmer spring day with ice in the morning and corn in the afternoon because that’s when I started looking for skis. They were stable and fast when the snow was smooth tho


That crusty morning stuff that’s piled up and tracked out in places and then when you hit it it just rattles your bones to the very core and then you start to turn while going Mach 1 and feels like your edges are gonna be ripped out of your ski.

Ya


H8 that stuff
Apr 7 2019 11:40PM
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Austintexas25
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shin-bangH8 that stuff


I’m half terrified that my bindings are going to tell me to fuck off and launch me into next week and half terrified my knees are going to blow apart on a death cookie
Apr 7 2019 11:44PM
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Non_State_Actor
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Austintexas25I’m half terrified that my bindings are going to tell me to fuck off and launch me into next week and half terrified my knees are going to blow apart on a death cookie


Devastators, there aren't many full rocker skies for crud skiing because usually they're made for soft.
Apr 8 2019 12:06AM
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Rum_Ham
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Meridian 107. Pretty heavy and stuff flexing ski.
Apr 8 2019 12:24AM
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Cade2
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I’d say you are about 10 years too late on the full rocker trend. I have some Hellbent’s I’ll sell ya real cheap
Apr 9 2019 12:10PM
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Non_State_Actor
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Cade2I’d say you are about 10 years too late on the full rocker trend. I have some Hellbent’s I’ll sell ya real cheap


They definitely aren't all over the place but it seems like a lot of new skis are coming out basically flat with rockered tips and tails ie: zero camber. Not the massive reverse camber from a few years ago though, in that case you're right, it's definitely been dialed back.
Apr 9 2019 12:59PM
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Austintexas25
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mystery3They definitely aren't all over the place but it seems like a lot of new skis are coming out basically flat with rockered tips and tails ie: zero camber. Not the massive reverse camber from a few years ago though, in that case you're right, it's definitely been dialed back.


It makes sense since the older reverse camber skis seem to get super sketchy in anything that isn’t pow. That being said I think I’ve narrowed it down to either the devastator or a custom Kartel with the camber lowered
Apr 9 2019 1:47PM
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WoFIowz
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Austintexas25I have actually tried the 5.0 that’s the main reason I’m looking for a 0 camber ski. I loved how easy it was to play around and spin. The ski was just light so it gets deflected by trashy 3D snow that we get here a lot at Mt.Hood


OP lives in a 2D world. Wuttttttt
Apr 9 2019 2:06PM
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Cade2
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Austintexas25It makes sense since the older reverse camber skis seem to get super sketchy in anything that isn’t pow. That being said I think I’ve narrowed it down to either the devastator or a custom Kartel with the camber lowered

Can’t handle camber huh?
Apr 9 2019 4:55PM
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Austintexas25
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Cade2Can’t handle camber huh?


For tricks I could use the assist. I’m not very good at getting rotations around and flat skis just make me want to ski like that
Apr 9 2019 5:27PM
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Cade2
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Austintexas25For tricks I could use the assist. I’m not very good at getting rotations around and flat skis just make me want to ski like that


????
Apr 9 2019 5:28PM
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TollGrisly
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theres also the new black crows corvus, its flat underfoot. but i think the devastators are what you're looking for, good basically everywhere all the time. and if you want something to ski crud, the weight is gonna help a lot.
Apr 10 2019 10:46AM
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patagonialuke
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Devastator or Meridian 107. Dev is a bit more damp and loose, Meridian 107 is lighter and stiffer and carves better on hardpack IMO. Both very fun, loose skis that you can ski quite hard. I think the choice comes down to if you want more pop / lower swing weight (go Meridian), or want a more damp feel and don't mind a bit of weight (Dev).

Kartel 108 is still worth a look as it's not hooky / catchy at all and still super easy to pivot around. And I think the Kartel is probably the most stable of the bunch.

Or if you wanna go a custom route, Folsom Primary with their "Subtle Reverse Camber" is pretty rad. Like a more damp Meridian. But that's very pricey.
Apr 10 2019 12:29PM
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