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Need Some Advice on All-Mtn Sticks

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Liam_j10
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So I'm currently on the bent Chetler 100's but have torn those things to shreds this season and am gonna need some new skis real soon.

I ski in Utah (pretty much all mountains here). I do love my chetlers but I could use something a little stiffer. I love how quick and snappy they are with their playfulness in pow, tight spots and buttering. They also feel great in the air and let me lay down plenty of 3's and ride switch . My only issue is when it comes to bigger lines involving 25+ foot cliffs and charging hard through crud: I could use a little more stability.

I'm the most interested in a pb&j or a deathwish but am afraid they might be TOO stiff for me, as I really do enjoy buttering and whipping my chetlers around. Ik all of this is too much to ask for in one ski but I thought I might as well try
Mar 13 2019 9:01PM
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Roberto907
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Kartel 108?
Mar 13 2019 9:32PM
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Kevski
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RobeeeeeeeeeertoKartel 108?


Definitely would take care of the stability side of things - love mine for playing around going faster or bigger knowing that the skis will have my back no matter what.
They're not light though and definitely not soft - the rocker keeps them maneuverable and poppy but I feel like you'd be compromising some of the "quick and snappy" feeling you like about the chetlers in favour of a smoother, damper ride with the K108.
Mar 13 2019 9:47PM
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Liam_j10
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KevskiDefinitely would take care of the stability side of things - love mine for playing around going faster or bigger knowing that the skis will have my back no matter what.
They're not light though and definitely not soft - the rocker keeps them maneuverable and poppy but I feel like you'd be compromising some of the "quick and snappy" feeling you like about the chetlers in favour of a smoother, damper ride with the K108.


Alright, thanks for the notes. I still need to familiarize myself more with on3p but I'm guessing the wrenegade 108 definitely wouldn't have the playfulness or jib I want
Mar 13 2019 10:00PM
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Non_State_Actor
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Nomad 105, Armada ARV 106 or 106ti?

Are you thinking to go much wider than 100mm?
Mar 13 2019 10:13PM
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Liam_j10
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mystery3Nomad 105, Armada ARV 106 or 106ti?

Are you thinking to go much wider than 100mm?


I would say my max would be around 110-112 but Im pretty open. I would just be worried about sacrificing maneuverability
Mar 13 2019 10:34PM
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Rum_Ham
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Pb&j and deathwish aren’t super stiff skis. They’re definitely burlier but I wouldn’t classify them as stiff
Mar 13 2019 10:49PM
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Kevski
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Liam_j10Alright, thanks for the notes. I still need to familiarize myself more with on3p but I'm guessing the wrenegade 108 definitely wouldn't have the playfulness or jib I want


No worries. Yeah if you're talking about spinning and skiing switch the Kartel is much more of a multi-directional, centred ski basically meant for that. The wren is more of their point it and nuke ski. Stiffer, more directional, longer turn radius, etc.
Mar 13 2019 11:00PM
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Liam_j10
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Rum_HamPb&j and deathwish aren’t super stiff skis. They’re definitely burlier but I wouldn’t classify them as stiff


Alright, just from what I've heard I feel like moment generally produces skis on the stiffer end but I don't have any actual experience on them so that's good to know
Mar 13 2019 11:11PM
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Liam_j10
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KevskiNo worries. Yeah if you're talking about spinning and skiing switch the Kartel is much more of a multi-directional, centred ski basically meant for that. The wren is more of their point it and nuke ski. Stiffer, more directional, longer turn radius, etc.


Ok, that's what I figured
Mar 13 2019 11:11PM
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Rum_Ham
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Liam_j10Alright, just from what I've heard I feel like moment generally produces skis on the stiffer end but I don't have any actual experience on them so that's good to know


They are definitely on the stiffer side of things but they are far from unbendable
Mar 13 2019 11:16PM
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quagsire
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Icelantic Nomad 105, RMU Apostle, and K2 Marksman would be a few more to look at.
Mar 14 2019 12:17AM
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Lukrom_
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Armada arv 106 ti there's a couple different versions out there so what ever fits your taste in graphics
Mar 14 2019 8:56AM
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