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Problem using inserts in these skis?

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FreddoBumps
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Any problems you see with an insert going this deep? Please see pic. Note: there is some black on the sidewalls, so the insert shown is indeed sitting flush to the top sheet. Thanks for the help. Ski is a Kastle FX85 HP.

Feb 13 2019 2:21PM
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shin-bang
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i would say yes,

it seems as if the insert would go all the way into the base material. if it doesnt pop all the way through it can also cause a bulge in the base.

is it a specific insert like quiver killers or its just a random?

im not an expert with inserts/helicoils or anything in that realm though
Feb 13 2019 2:44PM
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FreddoBumps
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It’s Binding Freedom. Thanks for your response.
Feb 13 2019 2:50PM
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supersquid
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Definitey looks like its gonna bubble you base at the very least. Do they have different sizes? maybe you could take a grinder to it and grind the top down so it becomes shorter?
Feb 14 2019 2:50PM
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FreddoBumps
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Yeah, grinding is something I’ve considered. The other is to use a thin plate between the top sheet and binding - probably of plastic - to which the insert mounts flush; it would raise them out of the ski a bit. Overall, I feel I’m trying too hard to make them work.

Out of curiosity, though, where have you seen smaller inserts?

To your eye, how much shorter is needed? Think 1mm would do it, or does it need 2mm?

Thanks for the thoughts.
Feb 15 2019 12:27AM
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razors-chaz
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FreddoBumpsYeah, grinding is something I’ve considered. The other is to use a thin plate between the top sheet and binding - probably of plastic - to which the insert mounts flush; it would raise them out of the ski a bit. Overall, I feel I’m trying too hard to make them work.

Out of curiosity, though, where have you seen smaller inserts?

To your eye, how much shorter is needed? Think 1mm would do it, or does it need 2mm?

Thanks for the thoughts.


rather than grind anything off the top, likely removing the slots used to put the inserts in, you could easily grind off 1/2mm of the dome at the bottom of the insert. The screws for the inserts are flat ended machine screws and the inserts are designed for that, so you shouldn't end up grinding off the whole dome and start messing with the inner threads.

Seems like the ski has been made too thin and you could easily end up dimpling the base even with normal binding screws.
Feb 15 2019 8:45AM
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supersquid
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Any update on this? Interested to see what the end solution was.
Feb 19 2019 2:59PM
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FreddoBumps
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supersquidAny update on this? Interested to see what the end solution was.

I haven’t made any headway. I was scrambling to get a few pairs set up before a trip (on which I lost my phone 😡), but I couldn’t get it done. I’ll try grinding the dome end to start, but I may have to grind both ends. It may not end up being worth the effort, but I’ll check back in.
Feb 27 2019 11:17PM
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supersquid
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FreddoBumpsI haven’t made any headway. I was scrambling to get a few pairs set up before a trip (on which I lost my phone 😡), but I couldn’t get it done. I’ll try grinding the dome end to start, but I may have to grind both ends. It may not end up being worth the effort, but I’ll check back in.


word, also what you goin for? touring/resort ski? or just want to be able to change mounting points?
Feb 27 2019 11:33PM
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FreddoBumps
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supersquidword, also what you goin for? touring/resort ski? or just want to be able to change mounting points?
Was wanting to share my Shifts among skis (tour and resort) and was considering a second set per ski for demo bindings so I could share with my son/friends (resort). It looks to be cheaper/less risky to just put another set of demo bindings on the resort skis.

**This post was edited on Feb 28th 2019 at 7:38:45am
Feb 28 2019 7:20AM
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