New skis for 2019-2020 season. ON3P Magnus 90 or J-Skis Wipit?

ON3P magnus. Much more solid ski that will last.

I would recommend the Line chronic, it’s a all around good and durable ski

I am a very similar type with 5"8 and 115 lbs. I have the Whipit and absolutely love it. It will definitely be lighter and flexier than the Magnus, however, the Magnus will have more rocker. I use it as a daily driver and it's bomber. I have 20ish days on it and there is only one noticable topsheet chip. No edge cracks on the edges and I didn't even detune! The Magnus will be more durable but it is also much more expensive considering that Whipits in factory blemish can be found for $400. If you want more of an all-mountain and park ski, the Chronic and ARV could be beneficial with the slightly wider waist to handle mixed conditions.

Magnus forsure

I've been on both of those skis and the Facet Regulators. I would also add the Line Blends to that list.

IMO, you are choosing soft, rockered skis. Because every ski has a ton of rocker, you shouldn't look at a 164. You should size up since the part of the ski actually touching the snow will be shorter on a rockered ski vs a cambered ski. based on your height and weight, I would put you at about 169-172cm area for lengths.

all the options besides blends are 90 underfoot, so I am guessing that you are trying to get something skinnier.

If you don't like the idea of blends, then out of the ON3P,s J's, and Facets, I have to say that I liked the flex profile of the Facets the most. Very smooth and stable for buttering, and they are insanely lightweight. I enjoyed skiing these the most out of the others. The only downside is that they could have some different graphics to look at, but you are looking at next years gear anyway.

Riding the J's, I felt like they were honestly too soft to actually ski some terrain. I also think they were too narrow in the tip and tail to perform as well as the Facets outside of the park (thinking some fresh snow or trees). Amazing ski in the park, but the narrow shovel on the tip and tail made it harder to smear butters and hold nose manuals. Super quick on rails and really light though.

Mag's are probably the best all mountain performer out of them, but thats only because they are so stiff. The only reason people can flex and butter like they do on these skis is the rocker profile. For some people, this is ideal, but for someone like me, who also enjoys slow speed butters, it was more of an effort to butter. They are also noticeably heavier than the other options. When I jumped on a pair at hood, I was impressed with how much fun they can be at moderate speeds, but I felt like they were too swervy. On jumps, I didn't feel like I could lay down a nice landing without feeling like I could accidentally swerve out. It was personally very annoying, but it was designed by Magnus, so it makes sense that it is so easy to swerve. Definitely not my style since I find it annoying when you are just trying to stomp a trick and the skis are trying to swerve to switch on their own.

The blends are just straight noodles. Really only good for the park and some moderate speed pow, but they overflex too easily which can lead to washouts depending on what you are doing.

Overall, I put my vote in for the Facets. I liked their flex profile the most since it felt the least restricting for every type of skiing. I also liked the tails and noses since it felt sooo good to butter on them.

The whipit is no longer available in 2019-2020 season. But I would go with the whipit. It’s lighter, durable, and is a great ski to stick new tricks. My friend has the magnus and I have the whipit. His top sheet is destroyed and mine only has 1 chip. We got our skis the same week. The magnus are too heavy to spin fast he says. Also when he tries to land trick he often flexes the ski to much and falls. The whipit is light and easy to spin. I did my first 900 when before I could only 540. When I land I land stable and don’t butter out.

Park.I've been on both of those skis and the Facet Regulators. I would also add the Line Blends to that list.

IMO, you are choosing soft, rockered skis. Because every ski has a ton of rocker, you shouldn't look at a 164. You should size up since the part of the ski actually touching the snow will be shorter on a rockered ski vs a cambered ski. based on your height and weight, I would put you at about 169-172cm area for lengths.

all the options besides blends are 90 underfoot, so I am guessing that you are trying to get something skinnier.

If you don't like the idea of blends, then out of the ON3P,s J's, and Facets, I have to say that I liked the flex profile of the Facets the most. Very smooth and stable for buttering, and they are insanely lightweight. I enjoyed skiing these the most out of the others. The only downside is that they could have some different graphics to look at, but you are looking at next years gear anyway.

Riding the J's, I felt like they were honestly too soft to actually ski some terrain. I also think they were too narrow in the tip and tail to perform as well as the Facets outside of the park (thinking some fresh snow or trees). Amazing ski in the park, but the narrow shovel on the tip and tail made it harder to smear butters and hold nose manuals. Super quick on rails and really light though.

Mag's are probably the best all mountain performer out of them, but thats only because they are so stiff. The only reason people can flex and butter like they do on these skis is the rocker profile. For some people, this is ideal, but for someone like me, who also enjoys slow speed butters, it was more of an effort to butter. They are also noticeably heavier than the other options. When I jumped on a pair at hood, I was impressed with how much fun they can be at moderate speeds, but I felt like they were too swervy. On jumps, I didn't feel like I could lay down a nice landing without feeling like I could accidentally swerve out. It was personally very annoying, but it was designed by Magnus, so it makes sense that it is so easy to swerve. Definitely not my style since I find it annoying when you are just trying to stomp a trick and the skis are trying to swerve to switch on their own.

The blends are just straight noodles. Really only good for the park and some moderate speed pow, but they overflex too easily which can lead to washouts depending on what you are doing.

Overall, I put my vote in for the Facets. I liked their flex profile the most since it felt the least restricting for every type of skiing. I also liked the tails and noses since it felt sooo good to butter on them.

Quality post. +1

when you say swervy on the magnuses, what do you mean? Like the turn radius engages too quick, or they’re awfully washy? Just curious so I can get a reference for the future.

dont get j skis they break fast

Fregolishidont get j skis they break fast

this sounds like something a person who has never ridden j skis and is just trying to jump on the wave of calling them garbage would say

CalumSKIthis sounds like something a person who has never ridden j skis and is just trying to jump on the wave of calling them garbage would say

It's hard to find a ski on NS that isn't completely "trash" and "not durable". IRL Jskis are durable I have whips and edge cracks, only topsheet chips.

Phillydog1It's hard to find a ski on NS that isn't completely "trash" and "not durable". IRL Jskis are durable I have whips and edge cracks, only topsheet chips.

yea ik that what i was saying

CalumSKIthis sounds like something a person who has never ridden j skis and is just trying to jump on the wave of calling them garbage would say

i have a buddy sponsored by jskis and he never has a pair more than one season

Fregolishii have a buddy sponsored by jskis and he never has a pair more than one season

If he's sponsored he definitely skis harder than most ppl

CalumSKIIf he's sponsored he definitely skis harder than most ppl

you have a point

shin-bangQuality post. +1

when you say swervy on the magnuses, what do you mean? Like the turn radius engages too quick, or they’re awfully washy? Just curious so I can get a reference for the future.

The skis are incredibly easy to disengage the edge. Thats the bottom line on how they were designed via the rocker profile. When you want to swivel, it takes minimal effort. Much less effort than other skis I've been on. Obviously you can still lay carves and land comfortably, but if you plan to stomp a landing, you shouldn't expect that to be a consistent feeling on them if you spin a decent amount. Even when you land, there isn't much of a stomp feeling based on the small amount of effective edge. I might've made them sound hard to control, and thats not really what I was trying to say. I just wanted to exaggerate the nuances between the mags and other skis. When it comes down to it, they are just stiff rockered skis. They ski incredibly short, and thats another factor. Overall, I don't think there is anything unique about them besides the standout quality. The flex is nice with a stiff ski, but the extensive rocker takes away from the potential attributes of a stiff rockered ski (like a poacher) imo. I think there are better options for rockered skis, but I haven't been on a better swerve ski besides V's.

Overall, the stiff design is asking for powerful skiing, but the rocker does not compliment that style. It is harder to charge on them than I would have preferred, but definitely not impossible. A good all around ski, but certainly receiving more hype than deserved imo. A wider platform with a narrow waist like the Mag 102 would feel more organic, I'm sure.



The most significant element of why I don't love the skis is the rocker being elliptical. It is too consistently rising, instead of having a point where you just receive a nice dose of effective edge while in a deep carve.