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ON3P vs J Skis

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MPoub
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Haven't seen this thread so I thought I might start one.

Going into the 2nd half of the season, I wanted a ski that would do everything I wanted it to. Spring slush, park and pow and sometimes just bombing it down groomers.
I was looking into Magnus102/Kartel 96 or the J Skis All play.
What do you guys think? Im open to other brands but want to stay away from a poacher because of the weight (Already had one so don't come in saying I should try it).
Also not looking at Armada, so don't suggest the Arv 96 please.
Please help me out as I am currently on a noodle park ski so I need something soon (At least drop a vote)!
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Feb 6 2019 12:38PM
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FairyJerry
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I'd lean towards the Kartel 96 if you want it to do a little bit of everything. Factory detune on the Magnus 102 is nice for just park, but I like to have a bit of an edge for icy days.

**This post was edited on Feb 6th 2019 at 12:50:08pm
Feb 6 2019 12:49PM
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MPoub
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FairyJerryI'd lean towards the Kartel 96 if you want it to do a little bit of everything. Factory detune on the Magnus 102 is nice for just park, but I like to have a bit of an edge for icy days.

That makes sense, thanks for the reply. Do you know the weight difference between the skis?
Feb 6 2019 12:53PM
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FairyJerry
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I'm pretty sure both skis weigh around 2000g give or take at 181 cm. So not the lightest but they're durable as shit
Feb 6 2019 12:57PM
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KilaTsunami
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why the stigma against Armada? I straight up love my AR7s and they old as shit
Feb 6 2019 2:09PM
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MPoub
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KilaTsunamiwhy the stigma against Armada? I straight up love my AR7s and they old as shit


I've heard that the warranty sucks. Hopefully I will be able to ride them in the future, considering atomic purchasing them. Ive also heard durability issues with them.

Bad Durability + Warranty Issues = a huge no no
Feb 6 2019 4:47PM
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KilaTsunami
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PoubtvI've heard that the warranty sucks. Hopefully I will be able to ride them in the future, considering atomic purchasing them. Ive also heard durability issues with them.

Bad Durability + Warranty Issues = a huge no no


Yeah but I beat tf out these skis every weekend in the park and only ever broke the break on my bindings. I think u got it twisted with the bad stigma toward Armada!
Feb 6 2019 4:52PM
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MPoub
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Hopefully next year. Im trying to get my manager to carry armada so i dont pay full price lol
Thanks for the recommendation though
Feb 6 2019 4:53PM
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KilaTsunami
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PoubtvHopefully next year. Im trying to get my manager to carry armada so i dont pay full price lol
Thanks for the recommendation though


I SEE! Hahaha, well duhh, of course you should take whatever you can get a sweet employee discount on!
Feb 6 2019 6:32PM
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CalumSKI
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ON3P dropped Karl and now I don't like them
Idk about J skis tho
East coast gang I guess but u should look at moments
Heard they are fire
Feb 6 2019 9:18PM
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Colingarnes
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CalumSKION3P dropped Karl and now I don't like them
Idk about J skis tho
East coast gang I guess but u should look at moments
Heard they are fire

Dropped karl liked it was nothing. Left Sander with bills to pay end of seasons...
On3p been leaving bad tastes in thy mouth.

We are a small community.
Feb 7 2019 12:19AM
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shinbangclan
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riding allplays right now actually, with marker griffons
-light
-wide enuff for decent float in pow
-nice mellow flex
-they don't jitter unless ur doing 60 on chop

J Graphics are a major plus (for me at least). I love my great waves and so do people standing in the lift line.
Feb 7 2019 2:37AM
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50Kal
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CalumSKION3P dropped Karl and now I don't like them
Idk about J skis tho
East coast gang I guess but u should look at moments
Heard they are fire


ColingarnesDropped karl liked it was nothing. Left Sander with bills to pay end of seasons...
On3p been leaving bad tastes in thy mouth.

We are a small community.


Where are you getting your information??
I heard Sander and Karl both left due to better offers.
I guess my sources are on NS but curious where you heard that?

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/868085/Karl-off-ON3P

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/851098/ON3P-Dropped-Sander-Hadley-
Feb 7 2019 4:59AM
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CalumSKI
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50KalWhere are you getting your information??
I heard Sander and Karl both left due to better offers.
I guess my sources are on NS but curious where you heard that?

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/868085/Karl-off-ON3P

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/851098/ON3P-Dropped-Sander-Hadley-


I heard that on NS
i was just playing tho
still respect ON3P for all they do and wish Karl and Sander the best with their future sponsers
Feb 7 2019 8:23AM
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Demillsta
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ColingarnesDropped karl liked it was nothing. Left Sander with bills to pay end of seasons...
On3p been leaving bad tastes in thy mouth.

We are a small community.


Karl left on3p, they couldn't offer as much as other companies could. Seemed like there wasn't any hard feelings
Feb 7 2019 10:49AM
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Demillsta
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CalumSKII heard that on NS
i was just playing tho
still respect ON3P for all they do and wish Karl and Sander the best with their future sponsers

Also, sander just left j skis not on3p. And that one did seem like there was some unfortunate circumstances
Feb 7 2019 10:51AM
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Colingarnes
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He left both with bad tastes in his mouth.
DemillstaAlso, sander just left j skis not on3p. And that one did seem like there was some unfortunate circumstances
Feb 7 2019 11:04AM
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MPoub
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But what ski should i get :((
Feb 7 2019 11:13AM
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Biffbarf
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Weight and durability go hand in hand. If you didn't like the weight of the poacher you probably won't like the weight of the kartel. You want a light ski, or a bomber ski?
Feb 7 2019 11:16AM
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MPoub
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BiffbarfWeight and durability go hand in hand. If you didn't like the weight of the poacher you probably won't like the weight of the kartel. You want a light ski, or a bomber ski?


Yeah just looking for something lighter. The magnus is lighter, Right around 1.8 to the 2.1 on the paocher

**This post was edited on Feb 7th 2019 at 12:04:51pm
Feb 7 2019 11:51AM
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Biffbarf
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Idk how the jskis feel but the ct series feels like it has a super low swing weight. Fun/easy yet supportive when you need it. Again, faction's durability probably won't be that of the poacher or the kartel.
Feb 7 2019 12:10PM
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CalumSKI
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DemillstaAlso, sander just left j skis not on3p. And that one did seem like there was some unfortunate circumstances


yea i knew that i ws just continuing o my post about j skis tho
Feb 7 2019 1:23PM
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50Kal
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PoubtvBut what ski should i get :((


ON3P all day.
I haven't ridden either of magnus or kartel but reading about them on their site I would say Magnus 102 for more park oriented and Kartels if you want more all mountain slaying.

Both sound like they would kill it for what you want. You would be happy with either.

But I would say Kartel graphics look cooler so I'd lean that way.
Feb 7 2019 1:50PM
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MPoub
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Im leaning towards the Magnus. Its wide but not too wide and the detune is better for what Ill mostly be doing. Plus it can still go outside to powder and stuff
Feb 7 2019 1:54PM
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SoAnG
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Depends how you like to ski. For me, there's a huge difference between 96 and +100 under foot in regards to feed back or feel.
Feb 7 2019 2:25PM
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weastcoat
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ON3P All the way
Feb 7 2019 11:13PM
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Mookario
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Cop ON3P if you want something that will take a beating. The J's will be flexier. ON3P got lots of rocker. Its more about what you prefer.
Feb 8 2019 11:18AM
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