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Makressman
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Any tips on properly sending off bigger
Like better landing and controlling the higher speed upon impact. Also getting confidence up to do it.

Yup

**This thread was edited on Dec 18th 2019 at 12:09:55am
Feb 5 2019 11:03PM
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WoFIowz
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40-60 FEET?
Feb 5 2019 11:48PM
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chiknmcplanks
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try Full Tilts
Feb 6 2019 12:30AM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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Is your name Alex, and do you ski Revelstoke?
Feb 6 2019 12:48AM
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Dddsz
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MakressmanAny tips on properly sending off bigger cliffs (for me that’s 40-60 feet)

What 60 foot cliffs have you been sending lately? That's bigger than anything I have ever seen skied inbounds at a resort.
Feb 6 2019 12:58AM
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Rum_Ham
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1: Get line blends, they’re soft enough to really absorb the impact.
2: point it.
Feb 6 2019 1:06AM
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aidanaughton
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A parachute would do the trick
Feb 6 2019 1:26AM
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PsychicMigration
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Your kinda the man if you ask me.
Feb 6 2019 1:26AM
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Non_State_Actor
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It's just like hucking 20-30' cliffs except you're in the air longer and it hurts more when you land.

Post a vid next time you get after it.
Feb 6 2019 2:18AM
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SchlossAdler
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QuaffWhat 60 foot cliffs have you been sending lately? That's bigger than anything I have ever seen skied inbounds at a resort.


I'm pretty sure Air Jordan at Whis is like 50ish ft, and I've seen some shit go down on that from peak chair line. I can't say I've ever dropped anything 40-60 ftish but I'd just assume its like any other big cliff drop and you just need stay tight through your core and try to land stacked and absorb.
Feb 6 2019 6:33AM
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cydwhit
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In my experience, anything over like the 50 foot mark is more conditions based than anything else for most of us "average" skiers. Be patient, wait for the right storm cycle. When I drop anyting that size I want to be fully confident that I could land on my head and still be ok. That's a huge peace of mind when you're about to ski off of something huge. Probe the landing, or hike the zone in the summer, so that you know there's nothing in there that will destroy you. Knowledge that the landing is really good is the biggest thing that helps me get in the right mindset to actually ski off of something large.

Learn how to hot-tub. Trying to stomp straight to your feet off a really big hit is a bad idea. Instead, be ready to colapse to your hip as you land. It makes for a softer impact, and also helps you scrub speed, then you can stand back up and claim it.

Other than that, I'm always a little extra carefull when I go off something bigger. Release test boots and bindings regularly, wear a back protector, have a buddy ready if something goes wrong, mouth gaurd is a good idea, don't use your pole straps.

Some folks have the skill to drop big stuff. Others have the snowpack and patience. Start out with the snowpack and the patience, get a feel for it, and grow into the skill.
Feb 6 2019 10:09AM
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shin-bang
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cydwhitIn my experience, anything over like the 50 foot mark is more conditions based than anything else for most of us "average" skiers. Be patient, wait for the right storm cycle. When I drop anyting that size I want to be fully confident that I could land on my head and still be ok. That's a huge peace of mind when you're about to ski off of something huge. Probe the landing, or hike the zone in the summer, so that you know there's nothing in there that will destroy you. Knowledge that the landing is really good is the biggest thing that helps me get in the right mindset to actually ski off of something large.

Learn how to hot-tub. Trying to stomp straight to your feet off a really big hit is a bad idea. Instead, be ready to colapse to your hip as you land. It makes for a softer impact, and also helps you scrub speed, then you can stand back up and claim it.

Other than that, I'm always a little extra carefull when I go off something bigger. Release test boots and bindings regularly, wear a back protector, have a buddy ready if something goes wrong, mouth gaurd is a good idea, don't use your pole straps.

Some folks have the skill to drop big stuff. Others have the snowpack and patience. Start out with the snowpack and the patience, get a feel for it, and grow into the skill.


This ^^^^ i keep a mouthguard in my pocket. so whenever something is big and sketchy, just pop it in real quick. ive had friends break multiple teeth and dental bills arent cheep.

could you explain more about the "hot tub" technique? from what it sounds like is more of an intentional controlled back slap if the snow is deep enough.
Feb 6 2019 12:26PM
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SSteezle
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shin-bangThis ^^^^ i keep a mouthguard in my pocket. so whenever something is big and sketchy, just pop it in real quick. ive had friends break multiple teeth and dental bills arent cheep.

could you explain more about the "hot tub" technique? from what it sounds like is more of an intentional controlled back slap if the snow is deep enough.


In my experience, the best way to hot tub is keep your legs strong through impact, but let go of your upper body a bit. Like he said loosen up the hip and let it get thrown back rather than staying forward like usual. I've heard of people using backpacks and putting pillows in them as well to soften the landing, which seems like it's a good idea for anything big.
Feb 6 2019 1:10PM
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SuspiciousFish
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shin-bangThis ^^^^ i keep a mouthguard in my pocket. so whenever something is big and sketchy, just pop it in real quick. ive had friends break multiple teeth and dental bills arent cheep.

could you explain more about the "hot tub" technique? from what it sounds like is more of an intentional controlled back slap if the snow is deep enough.


Mouthgaurd is always worth it. I shattered my front teeth when I was younger when I landed on my head mountain biking and I bit together so hard on impact. That shit cost my parents $8,000.
Feb 6 2019 3:39PM
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OregonDead
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shin-bangThis ^^^^ i keep a mouthguard in my pocket. so whenever something is big and sketchy, just pop it in real quick. ive had friends break multiple teeth and dental bills arent cheep.

could you explain more about the "hot tub" technique? from what it sounds like is more of an intentional controlled back slap if the snow is deep enough.

What he is talking about is not actually a hot tub IMO.

Hot tubing is the technique guys use to dive into actual hot tubs. Land on your head while flipping. Done correctly the flip slows you down and keeps you from hitting bottom. By landing upside down head first your skis don't slap and idealy they'll cut through the snow with the flipping motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYkapHBVs8
Feb 6 2019 4:53PM
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Cole9
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OregonDeadWhat he is talking about is not actually a hot tub IMO.

Hot tubing is the technique guys use to dive into actual hot tubs. Land on your head while flipping. Done correctly the flip slows you down and keeps you from hitting bottom. By landing upside down head first your skis don't slap and idealy they'll cut through the snow with the flipping motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYkapHBVs8


I don’t know what the fuck you are doing, but that is not how I dive into a hot tub…
Feb 6 2019 8:41PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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Cole9I don’t know what the fuck you are doing, but that is not how I dive into a hot tub…


LOL
Feb 6 2019 8:50PM
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Dddsz
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Ya'll are exaggerating the fuck out of the size of these things. Straightline into corbet's is only like a 25 foot drop. What amateur skier is actually doing 50-60? A six story building. Fuck out of here
Feb 6 2019 9:24PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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40-60 feet




MakressmanAny tips on properly sending off bigger cliffs (for me that’s 40-60 feet)
Like better landing and controlling the higher speed upon impact. Also getting confidence up to do it.

Yup
Feb 6 2019 10:01PM
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ParkRx
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OregonDeadWhat he is talking about is not actually a hot tub IMO.

Hot tubing is the technique guys use to dive into actual hot tubs. Land on your head while flipping. Done correctly the flip slows you down and keeps you from hitting bottom. By landing upside down head first your skis don't slap and idealy they'll cut through the snow with the flipping motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYkapHBVs8


Finally someone else who understands the proper way to land big cliffs. It's all about having your skis being above you when you hit the snow. This allows them to take advantage of cryogenic hydrodynamics and act as a snow parachute gently setting you on the ground below.
Feb 6 2019 11:04PM
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ColoradoDogfart
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WalkaFinally someone else who understands the proper way to land big cliffs. It's all about having your skis being above you when you hit the snow. This allows them to take advantage of cryogenic hydrodynamics and act as a snow parachute gently setting you on the ground below.



ME NO UNDERSTANDO you really expect a bunch of 12 year olds to understand "cryogenic hydrodynamics"
Feb 7 2019 12:24AM
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Puzzled
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ColoradokidME NO UNDERSTANDO you really expect a bunch of 12 year olds to understand "cryogenic hydrodynamics"


I think you might be retarded.
Feb 7 2019 12:52AM
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cydwhit
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QuaffYa'll are exaggerating the fuck out of the size of these things. Straightline into corbet's is only like a 25 foot drop. What amateur skier is actually doing 50-60? A six story building. Fuck out of here


A surprising number of folks are actually.
Feb 7 2019 3:57PM
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Dddsz
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cydwhitA surprising number of folks are actually.


Actually they are not. They just think they are.
Feb 7 2019 7:28PM
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Lokdog
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Stomping is like... exactly the same as any other cliff, but on really big stuff hot tubbing can be a good idea sometimes. I went a bit too big on a cliff the other weekend and pulverized my cheekbone from a knee to face landing, not the best time.
Feb 7 2019 7:43PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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OregonDeadWhat he is talking about is not actually a hot tub IMO.

Hot tubing is the technique guys use to dive into actual hot tubs. Land on your head while flipping. Done correctly the flip slows you down and keeps you from hitting bottom. By landing upside down head first your skis don't slap and idealy they'll cut through the snow with the flipping motion.


We're going to need a personal demonstration from you preferably over a cliff that's >20ft so you can see how dumb that technique would be

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Feb 7 2019 8:26PM
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JWillySkeez
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I've found personally that speed can help you plane and stay on top on the snow when you land, as opposed to just punching through and stopping, (see big picture edits for examples of this), but I also don't huck 40 to 60 footers so take my advice with a grain of salt.
Feb 7 2019 10:04PM
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corona
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cydwhitA surprising number of folks are actually.


You're not* gonna have to back yourself up with some video. How big do you think that cliff is in your photo?

**This post was edited on Feb 7th 2019 at 10:31:48pm
Feb 7 2019 10:27PM
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ColoradoDogfart
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Get some footy ferda boys
Feb 7 2019 10:31PM
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Al.Capone
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ColoradokidGet some footy ferda boys

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Feb 7 2019 10:33PM
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cydwhit
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VinnieFYou're not* gonna have to back yourself up with some video. How big do you think that cliff is in your photo?

**This post was edited on Feb 7th 2019 at 10:31:48pm


Photoshop says it's 15 Cy's, stacked head to toe. I'm 6'1" so....

And my name may be orange, but that's because of photos, arts, and writing. Definitely on the low end of "amateur" skiers.
Feb 7 2019 10:49PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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ColoradokidME NO UNDERSTANDO you really expect a bunch of 12 year olds to understand "cryogenic hydrodynamics"


>Cryogenic Hydrodynamics



That's a pretty fancy way of saying physics of snow
Feb 7 2019 10:57PM
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corona
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cydwhitPhotoshop says it's 15 Cy's, stacked head to toe. I'm 6'1" so....

And my name may be orange, but that's because of photos, arts, and writing. Definitely on the low end of "amateur" skiers.


Just wondered if you measured it while there.. this cliff is something like 70: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzixX5sQixE

To me yours looks like 40 directly down, but hard to say how far you actually went.
Feb 7 2019 10:59PM
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Skibumsmith
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MakressmanAny tips on properly sending off bigger cliffs (for me that’s 40-60 feet)
Like better landing and controlling the higher speed upon impact.

Christ bud 40-60 is pretty big. Probably should have started doing squats months ago.
Feb 7 2019 11:55PM
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methscratchface
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roll down the windows aggressively
Feb 8 2019 2:41AM
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Youngm_IPCME
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QuaffYa'll are exaggerating the fuck out of the size of these things. Straightline into corbet's is only like a 25 foot drop. What amateur skier is actually doing 50-60? A six story building. Fuck out of here


Hit up the user dickdeck for his Alta footage. Though sadly he’s not really on here anymore. I think he still has the same computer since I last saw him so he should have the videos.
Feb 8 2019 9:13PM
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AbiH
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QuaffYa'll are exaggerating the fuck out of the size of these things. Straightline into corbet's is only like a 25 foot drop. What amateur skier is actually doing 50-60? A six story building. Fuck out of here


Yeah are you measuring height of the cliff or the distance your getting out of it? Corbet’s Cant be over 30’...
Feb 8 2019 11:56PM
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leprechaunsissy
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QuaffWhat 60 foot cliffs have you been sending lately? That's bigger than anything I have ever seen skied inbounds at a resort.


I guarantee that 40-60 feet actually refers to 15 feet tops.
Feb 9 2019 6:50PM
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WoFIowz
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For reference: http://www.bluebulbprojects.com/measureofthings/results.php?comp=length&unit=ft&amt=60&sort=pr&p=1

My dick is also 14 inches long
Feb 10 2019 12:15AM
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BensonPhoto
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Start following my insta- brentbensonphotography. Lot of times I'll film a cliff jump and put it on my instagram story. That way you can see the unedited raw version on how's it's done.
Feb 10 2019 12:26AM
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SofaKingSick
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BensonPhotoStart following my insta- brentbensonphotography. Lot of times I'll film a cliff jump and put it on my instagram story. That way you can see the unedited raw version on how's it's done.


Only NS would downvote Brett benson giving a super good answer to the thread’s question haha wtf
Feb 10 2019 3:21PM
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BensonPhoto
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I was just trying to help, I guess they want to learn the hard way. There's a reason why Tanner, Durtschi, and Pierre had me there when they are doing something big. Because they trust me and know I will get the shot.
Feb 10 2019 7:13PM
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duhamelski
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I jumped a 60 footer last year. Honestly I wouldn't recommend it unless it's been a lifelong goal and you'll never be fulfilled if you don't do it. If you must, make sure there's tons of snow and you have someone to dig you out. There's really not much skill involved you just ski over the edge.
Feb 11 2019 1:01AM
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skiguy04
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Go fast
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