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Why can't snowboarders land as cleanly as skiers?

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Dddsz
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From what I have seen in person, snowboarders wash out on their toe-side and roll around during landings incredibly often. To the point of it being kind of annoying. It is more surprising to see them actually land a cliff or backie without dragging their face through the snow.

Is the inferior sport that much more difficult or are skiers just better at standing up? America explain.
Jan 19 2019 9:26PM
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Demillsta
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QuaffFrom what I have seen in person, snowboarders wash out on their toe-side and roll around during landings incredibly often. To the point of it being kind of annoying. It is more surprising to see them actually land a cliff or backie without dragging their face through the snow.

Is the inferior sport that much more difficult or are skiers just better at standing up? America explain.


1 ski is less stable than 2
Jan 19 2019 10:26PM
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arnie_grape
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2 edges is less stable than 4
Jan 19 2019 10:59PM
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Gnar_Shralp406
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1 is the loneliest number
Jan 20 2019 12:02AM
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PsychicMigration
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2>1
Jan 20 2019 12:21AM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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Literally every snowboarder looks like he is going to eat it after dropping a cliff / landing a big jump. Apart from Travis Rice.
Jan 20 2019 12:33AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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because 7 8 9
Jan 20 2019 12:37AM
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fratskier69
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skiers have more degrees of freedom for their landing supports to move
Jan 20 2019 1:00AM
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oldworld_newlife
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I think it depends on the boarder . I have some boarder friends who got some mean afterbang
Jan 20 2019 1:02AM
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skiguy04
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Snowboard and find out
Jan 20 2019 9:50AM
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Narcopus
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It’s hard to stop a spin without those 2 skis/ edges, and the way skis are you can land backseat or forward easily without much problem and still make it look ok. Boards are less forgiving in all aspects of landing
Jan 20 2019 10:11AM
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steezy.stew
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This is something I have also noticed in competitive snowboarding. It seems like snowboard judges penalize hand-drags and just generally sketchier landings way less than the corresponding skier landing would be treated.

Plus their rail game in slope comps is always so weak....
Jan 20 2019 11:12AM
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CalumSKI
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steezy.stewThis is something I have also noticed in competitive snowboarding. It seems like snowboard judges penalize hand-drags and just generally sketchier landings way less than the corresponding skier landing would be treated.

Plus their rail game in slope comps is always so weak....


i would think their rail game would be weaker because they cant use thier edges to catch on to rails
still think snowboard comps are dope as is the sport
Jan 20 2019 11:21AM
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DominatorJacques
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QuaffFrom what I have seen in person, snowboarders wash out on their toe-side and roll around during landings incredibly often. To the point of it being kind of annoying. It is more surprising to see them actually land a cliff or backie without dragging their face through the snow.

Is the inferior sport that much more difficult or are skiers just better at standing up? America explain.

Ha ha. This is not even true. Same % see I in skiing as boarding. It's not the arrow, it's the person pulling the bow!
Jan 20 2019 1:51PM
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Govygen_gourmet
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You all must be out of your damn minds, snowboarders make Jibbing, and jumping (at least on flowy jumps) look effortless. Considering terrain parks were first designed for snowboarders it makes sense that they are a boarder’s natural playground.

New Tech is progressing snowboarding to be able to navigate outside of parks. Skilled snowboarders who are just riding around even look steezy as hell.

As stated before it all depends on the snowboarder just as it is with skiers. There are too many skiers who have sloppy landings not fluid at all, backslapping, edge catching, yard sale having asses.

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2019 at 11:56:07pm
Jan 20 2019 11:55PM
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skiguy04
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Lip 2 looks better on a board hahahaha
Jan 21 2019 12:23AM
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270on420out
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I honestly think every rail trick looks better on a snowboard
Jan 21 2019 1:32AM
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Narcopus
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DIRTYBUBBLEI honestly think every rail trick looks better on a snowboard


Especially backslides
Jan 21 2019 8:20AM
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tsingtaofanatic
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The board is harder to manoeuvre, it’s attached to their legs as one bit. They also have no exact “structure”: the top half of their body kinda just swings around and it’s harder for them to be stable. Whereas a skier, we’ve got lots of structure: two planks facing forward, and we have poles too.
Jan 21 2019 9:27AM
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beckums
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I think it’s cause they cant pop correctly. It sure is funny to watch them though.
Jan 21 2019 10:13AM
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PeteMahn
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DIRTYBUBBLEI honestly think every rail trick looks better on a snowboard


Like a 2 pretz 4. Oh wait snowboarders can barely 2 pretz 2. Seeing as no one has done a 2 pretz 4 on a snowboard to my knowledge it all depends on the kind of rail skiing/snowboarding your into.
Jan 21 2019 12:44PM
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Cyanicenine
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This is really noticeable watching the FWT, the snowboarders are flailing and crashing all over the place not nearly as clean as the skiers. With the exception of Travis Rice, who for some reason is 3 times better than the next snowboarder on the tour.
Jan 21 2019 1:06PM
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skiguy04
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PeteMahnLike a 2 pretz 4. Oh wait snowboarders can barely 2 pretz 2. Seeing as no one has done a 2 pretz 4 on a snowboard to my knowledge it all depends on the kind of rail skiing/snowboarding your into.

Lmao I’ve done it both ways in a snowboard / switch and regular
Jan 21 2019 2:12PM
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Mr.noodle
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skiguy04Lmao I’ve done it both ways in a snowboard / switch and regular


/thread, op has all the info he needs
Jan 21 2019 5:11PM
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skiguy04
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Mr.noodle/thread, op has all the info he needs


Your welcome
Jan 21 2019 6:48PM
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TOAST.
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PeteMahnLike a 2 pretz 4. Oh wait snowboarders can barely 2 pretz 2. Seeing as no one has done a 2 pretz 4 on a snowboard to my knowledge it all depends on the kind of rail skiing/snowboarding your into.


Its also much more impressive on a snowboard since you cant edge.

One thing i am jealous of snowboarders about is presses (not talking nose/tail slides)
Jan 21 2019 6:56PM
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skiguy04
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TOAST.Its also much more impressive on a snowboard since you cant edge.

One thing i am jealous of snowboarders about is presses (not talking nose/tail slides)


Truth

Backside 180 to tail or nose press is boss
Jan 21 2019 7:05PM
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Jamie_Baril
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You guys are crazy.

Snowboarders stomp so much harder in pow.

At a certain point, the fact that our skis are on separate feet becomes a disadvantage. Not acknowledging that is willfully ignorant.

Stop being a hater and only looking only at sub-par snowboarders, watch some real OG's ride and appreciate the beauty of their sport.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/921912/Forrest-Burki-vs-The-Mt-Baker-Beast
Jan 22 2019 2:58PM
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deletedddd
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Bigger space between edges also only 2
Jan 22 2019 3:20PM
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ASSholebomber22
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No copies, just fax. Snowboards also rip chop much more gracefully than skiers who often gotta widen stance for stability. Hard not to respect that.
Jamie_BarilYou guys are crazy.

Snowboarders stomp so much harder in pow.

At a certain point, the fact that our skis are on separate feet becomes a disadvantage. Not acknowledging that is willfully ignorant.

Stop being a hater and only looking only at sub-par snowboarders, watch some real OG's ride and appreciate the beauty of their sport.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/921912/Forrest-Burki-vs-The-Mt-Baker-Beast
Jan 22 2019 4:01PM
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OregonDead
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Gnar_Shralp4061 is the loneliest number



One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
Two can be as bad as one
It's the loneliest number since the number one
No is the saddest experience you'll ever know
Yes, it's the saddest experience you'll ever know
'Cause one is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
One is the loneliest number, whoa-oh, worse than two
It's just no good anymore since you went away
Now I spend my time just making rhymes of yesterday
Jan 22 2019 4:01PM
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860media*
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Snowboarders have to land on edge. If they land flat based they usually washout because nothing is keeping them stable. Pretty shitty if you ask me....we have it easy just being able to stand up hahaha
Jan 22 2019 5:41PM
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WheelNitwit
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Skiers back slap everything and call it “landing”
Jan 22 2019 8:47PM
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skiguy04
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WheelNitwitSkiers back slap everything and call it “landing”


First post after your first post!!!

Agree w you
Jan 23 2019 11:25AM
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theabortionator
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Honestly this seems pretty backwards. Maybe I'm biased but I think boarders land a lot cleaner generally.
Jan 23 2019 11:51AM
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GrandThings
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Good skiers land well.
Good snowboarders land well

Shitty skiers land shitty
Shitty snowboarders land shitty.

Wow, what a thread. Glad I could help clear things up.
Jan 23 2019 11:59AM
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SteezyCD
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Was talking about this with my dogs who board the other day - skiing is kinda like a stomping cheat code when sending it deep.We lean back and can ride out from way more. Skiers can just sit back on our 2 feet and 2 planks on sketchy landings, whereas if a boarder lands back seat they're putting all the weight on one leg.
Jan 24 2019 11:53PM
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Chubz.
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skiguy04Lmao I’ve done it both ways in a snowboard / switch and regular


Post a vid, I don’t believe you have all 4 2 pretz 2’s on a snowboard. If you do that’s extremely impressive. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anybody hardway 2 pretz 2 on a snowboard lol
Jan 25 2019 12:02AM
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skiguy04
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Chubz.Post a vid, I don’t believe you have all 4 2 pretz 2’s on a snowboard. If you do that’s extremely impressive. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anybody hardway 2 pretz 2 on a snowboard lol


2 pretz 2 is such a ski thing tho fr don’t like doing that stuff on my board so much lately
Jan 25 2019 2:59AM
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Hansel9001
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Legs are fixed on a board and you cant scissor the rails to start and reverse rotations like you can on skis.
Jan 25 2019 3:34AM
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GrandThings
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Ok how bout a front 270 lipslide backside 270 out?
Jan 25 2019 9:10AM
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skiguy04
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GrandThingsOk how bout a front 270 lipslide backside 270 out?


All day
Jan 25 2019 11:20AM
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GrandThings
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skiguy04All day


Im now even more confident you've never ridden a snowboard in your life
Jan 25 2019 1:07PM
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skiguy04
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GrandThingsIm now even more confident you've never ridden a snowboard in your life


Last time I did it was disaster 2 lip 2
Jan 25 2019 2:18PM
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Hansel9001
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Also some snowboarders can make landings look great.
Slow cork fives on a snowboard are a good example
Jan 25 2019 5:48PM
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skiguy04
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Hansel9001Also some snowboarders can make landings look great.
Slow cork fives on a snowboard are a good example


Good style on a board wins over skiing 99/100
Jan 27 2019 9:32PM
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Hansel9001
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skiguy04Good style on a board wins over skiing 99/100

Fair enough.
But better style on a snowboard on big tricks happens
1 out of 100 times.
Jan 27 2019 9:34PM
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skiguy04
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Hansel9001Fair enough.
But better style on a snowboard on big tricks happens
1 out of 100 times.
so you’re saying skiing has good style 1 out of 10 000 times?

Snowboarders do bigger tricks 99/100 times tho
Jan 31 2019 6:40AM
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