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Laid-out backie: Help needed

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mitchellm
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Hi NS,

Was wondering if anyone can help me out. Im trying to re-learn how to lay out a backie. As you can see in the attached videos, I used to be able to have them leaving my legs hanging in the air behind me, and then coming round at the end (Sunny videos). but in the more recent ones i seem to be tucking my knee up close to my body & was not able to land a single on that day. (overcast videos)

Anyone got any tips on how to get back/improve on laying them out?

Cheeeers

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch
Jan 16 2019 1:37PM
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Not_Good
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Stop being a bitch and stretch your back out, idk dude it's not rocket science
Jan 16 2019 1:42PM
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DirtYStylE
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Seriously, if you throw the backie with your hips it will make the difference. Hips forward, chest out, let everything else trail behind. Then whip it around and stomp
Jan 16 2019 2:08PM
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Johngreenacre
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videos won't work for me. just be patient and keep your eyes open. I used to have a ton of problems with backflips too, just throw it with your shoulders and hips, and lay out to look for the landing, then judge if you need to pull in or slow down. Popping is also super important, you need a nice strong pop to get in a nice parabolic line instead of a horizontal one, which makes landings way easier to judge, and stomp.

Good luck OP and have fun!
Jan 16 2019 2:22PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Practice on tramps.
Disclaimer:
I've never skied out of a backflip on skis but I can sure get the feel of a layout on tramps
Jan 16 2019 2:55PM
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mitchellm
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Thanks for the words, just a case of confidence to let me legs behind me. I think trying on a bigger kicker would probs be better too
Jan 17 2019 2:06AM
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mitchellm
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For reference:

Recent
[VIDEO]https://www.newschoolers.com/videoembed/921233[VIDEO]


Old

[VIDEO]https://www.newschoolers.com/videoembed/921135[VIDEO]

**This post was edited on Jan 17th 2019 at 5:12:38am
Jan 17 2019 5:09AM
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SofaKingSick
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Johngreenacrevideos won't work for me. just be patient and keep your eyes open. I used to have a ton of problems with backflips too, just throw it with your shoulders and hips, and lay out to look for the landing, then judge if you need to pull in or slow down. Popping is also super important, you need a nice strong pop to get in a nice parabolic line instead of a horizontal one, which makes landings way easier to judge, and stomp.

Good luck OP and have fun!


agreed 100%, especially the part i bolded

mitchellmFor reference:

Recent
[VIDEO]https://www.newschoolers.com/videoembed/921233[VIDEO]


Old

[VIDEO]https://www.newschoolers.com/videoembed/921135[VIDEO]

**This post was edited on Jan 17th 2019 at 5:12:38am


yup, bigger jump and more POP. also just doing them a lot, it's natural to not want to risk laying it out a ton if you haven't done them a ton lately. you obviously have the trick down, just keep doing it and you'll do em better and better
Jan 17 2019 12:42PM
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theabortionator
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It's about getting comfortable with them. I think you pop a little harder toward the stall point. On smaller jumps you're most just spotting it and hanging, then snapping legs around when needed. On big jumps it's harder because everyone has a point where it's tough for them to slow down the flip anymore.

Get a nice arch going looking for the landing, hang your legs, just make sure you can get them back under you. It's sort of two motions in a sense, there's the pop to the stall point, and then the snap around. Even on a small jump. If you your body is still and rotating smoothly you can't really lay it out, at best if you hit a big enough jump you can rotate slowly.
Jan 18 2019 10:05PM
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freestyler540
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DirtYStylE


Seriously, if you throw the backie with your hips it will make the difference. Hips forward, chest out, let everything else trail behind. Then whip it around and stomp

This sums it up very well.
Jan 18 2019 10:07PM
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